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RE: America East, A-10 and CAA consolidate?
Surprise the CAA doesn’t jump to 12 with say UNCG and X (northern school) to ease travel. Ditto the southern league going to 12 with Belmont, UNA and maybe UNCA to replace G
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(Yesterday 10:47 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Surprise the CAA doesn’t jump to 12 with say UNCG and X (northern school) to ease travel. Ditto the southern league going to 12 with Belmont, UNA and maybe UNCA to replace G

They should. I wonder why they do not
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(Yesterday 10:29 AM)LostInSpace Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 06:42 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 11:42 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 02:52 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I don't see more northeastern schools getting into the A10. Siena and Hofstra have been trying for ages...if it happens for them, it's because the conference is virtually gutted of anything relevant.

It would be interesting what Davidson would lobby for. CoC maybe. I personally don't understand the appeal for basketball prestige (they were good in ASun, and it's like we've been waiting for them ever since to really emerge in SoCon and CAA) over UNCW, but CoC pushes the border south and into a good coastal city.

Siena is actually perceived by many in the league as the number 1 target if there's an opening. I don't get it either. But there are some connected people on the A-10 board that seem to be very confident of that fact. Every team in the CAA would take a A-10 bid if offered. Every team in the America East would do the same. Just like every team in the A-10 would take a bid to the Big East.

Regarding Siena. They have the advantage of being close, but not too close, to many of our existing teams. St Bona really wants them. Fordham does too. So does UMass and URI. I don't think the southern teams really want an Albany based team in the league, but it might help with travel.

UNCW? Possible. But I'd guess that they'd be around 8th or 9th on the list. Ahead of JMU though. If Davidson left, then they'd be higher. Either way, the A-10 has 14 teams, and doesn't really need any more teams. College of Charleston? Probably around 8th or 9th.

BTW, UNCW and Charleston are probably better programs than some teams in the A-10. But that's not how things work.

I highly doubt you will get another northern team in the unless it is to replace a departing northern team like UMass. If St Louis were to leave there would likely be a push from the southern schools to replace with another school south of DC. There is a strong southern block of schools who must be taken into consideration. Sienna for St Louis' spot doesn't make any sense for southern schools

There are three members south of the DMV. There is no strong southern block of schools in the A10.

As I posted previously the other schools vetted when Davidson was added are all members of the MAAC. That information comes from a relative who is a former La Salle BoT member. When Temple, Xavier and Butler departed the A10 presidents decided to shift their focus going forward to have as geographically compact a conference as possible. They want a bus league.

That said student recruitment is a factor in the A10’s evaluation process. Davidson was valued not just for their basketball prowess but also for being in the Charlotte metro. The presidents wanted to maintain a presence in that area because unlike the states in the Northeast it has a growing school age population. For that reason I think that CoC would get serious consideration if a school has to be replaced and Davidson did lobby hard for CoC to be added along with them. Nevertheless, Siena and Iona were the top choices if Davidson didn’t join the A10 and I don’t think anything has changed since then.

I count Richmond, VCU, GMU, and Davidson as schools that would favor expansion southward. Assuming it takes 67% to expand the southern schools would only need to win over GW to block expansion if their wishes were not taken into consideration. That's why I think the next school on deck would be a Charleston. My WISH is a package deal with Charleston and UNCW if 2 schools leave to create 7 DC and below and 7 above DC A10
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RE: America East, A-10 and CAA consolidate?
With the amount of at large bids for mid majors shrinking it would probably be in the A-10's best interest to hold at 12 if they ever lost Dayton and St Louis.

Regarding CAA, I'm curious if Hofstra and Northeastern would have ever been added to the league if they had dropped football before joining. My guess is they look elsewhere to gain a northeastern presence--Stony Brook for sure. Maybe Albany or New Hampshire for the other add.
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(Yesterday 09:29 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  With the amount of at large bids for mid majors shrinking it would probably be in the A-10's best interest to hold at 12 if they ever lost Dayton and St Louis.

Regarding CAA, I'm curious if Hofstra and Northeastern would have ever been added to the league if they had dropped football before joining. My guess is they look elsewhere to gain a northeastern presence--Stony Brook for sure. Maybe Albany or New Hampshire for the other add.

I agree the A10 might never expand as they really have no need to be at 14. 12 would be fine for them particularly if St Louis and Dayton left.

Hofstra was part of the original package after the AEast CAA merger was voted down by the AEast.

Northeastern was added to get the 6th football school. Period.

So NE a definite no with out football. Hofstra a maybe. If they didn't have football it may have been Stony Brook Towson Delaware and Drexel added. But the CAA was desperate at that point so who knows for sure

Edit: I didn't realize how new to D1 Stony Brook and Albany were. I highly doubt they would have been considered back then for CAA membership. Realistically the only other option besides NE to get CAA football started, outside of ODU starting a program, was to invite New Hampshire or Maine instead. Out of those 3, it is easy to understand why NE was choice for #6
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