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Trump proposes Medicaid work requirements
Its about damned time.

The Trump administration announced Thursday that it will open the door for states to impose work requirements for Medicaid recipients, in a major shift that could affect millions of low-income people receiving benefits.

The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services described the decision as a response to requests from states to test work requirement programs.

“Medicaid needs to be more flexible so that states can best address the needs of this population. Our fundamental goal is to make a positive and lasting difference in the health and wellness of our beneficiaries, and today’s announcement is a step in that direction,” CMS Administrator Seema Verna said in a statement.

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01-11-2018 09:18 AM
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Trump proposes Medicaid work requirements
The problem is that you will need bureaucrats who will manage things properly...and they do not exist.

The result will be 95-year old cancer patients denied coverage and 40 year old drug dealers forging their way with a resume on a napkin.



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01-11-2018 09:51 AM
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RE: Trump proposes Medicaid work requirements
(01-11-2018 09:51 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  The problem is that you will need bureaucrats who will manage things properly...and they do not exist.

The result will be 95-year old cancer patients denied coverage and 40 year old drug dealers forging their way with a resume on a napkin.



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We're not dealing with 95 year olds here, nor 8 year olds. We will be dealing with 50% of all medicaid recipients. The ones that fall between 19 and 64, who until now, were allowed to sit on their ass and have their healthcare paid for by the working american.

If its too much for a bureaucrat to handle, we can simply shut off medicaid for that age group altogether.
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If You clear out the illegals, then there will be millions of jobs opening up for many of these that don't have jobs to be able to fill them. Lots of Americans on Welfare are ones that gave up looking for work because their skill levels were lacking and got on gov assistance to survive. When Welfare to work came up under Clinton, millions started working, many remained on work force payrolls. Obama changed it back to no requirement to work, thus millions got on Gov assistance again.
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RE: Trump proposes Medicaid work requirements
(01-11-2018 10:02 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 09:51 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  The problem is that you will need bureaucrats who will manage things properly...and they do not exist.

The result will be 95-year old cancer patients denied coverage and 40 year old drug dealers forging their way with a resume on a napkin.



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We're not dealing with 95 year olds here, nor 8 year olds. We will be dealing with 50% of all medicaid recipients. The ones that fall between 19 and 64, who until now, were allowed to sit on their ass and have their healthcare paid for by the working american.

If its too much for a bureaucrat to handle, we can simply shut off medicaid for that age group altogether.

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RE: Trump proposes Medicaid work requirements
(01-11-2018 10:02 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 09:51 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  The problem is that you will need bureaucrats who will manage things properly...and they do not exist.

The result will be 95-year old cancer patients denied coverage and 40 year old drug dealers forging their way with a resume on a napkin.



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We're not dealing with 95 year olds here, nor 8 year olds. We will be dealing with 50% of all medicaid recipients. The ones that fall between 19 and 64, who until now, were allowed to sit on their ass and have their healthcare paid for by the working american.

If its too much for a bureaucrat to handle, we can simply shut off medicaid for that age group altogether.

Thats all well and good, but I have been around long enough to know how this works.

Just like when you order the deportation of MS-13 and the bureacrats immediately find a nice crying lady with cancer and three kids to handcuff and leak it to the press to show how mean Republicans are.

You have to make systemic changes to the system, not just tell the current system to act differently. It won't.

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(01-11-2018 09:51 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  The problem is that you will need bureaucrats who will manage things properly...and they do not exist.

The result will be 95-year old cancer patients denied coverage and 40 year old drug dealers forging their way with a resume on a napkin.



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Huh?

This is about Medicaid, not Medicare.

I don't think this is a good idea.
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(01-11-2018 10:14 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  If You clear out the illegals, then there will be millions of jobs opening up for many of these that don't have jobs to be able to fill them. Lots of Americans on Welfare are ones that gave up looking for work because their skill levels were lacking and got on gov assistance to survive. When Welfare to work came up under Clinton, millions started working, many remained on work force payrolls. Obama changed it back to no requirement to work, thus millions got on Gov assistance again.

I don't believe that's a clear representation of what actually happened.

Quote:...the Obama administration issued a memo telling states they could apply to have some aspects of the law's work requirements waived.

...the memo in question explicitly requires states that apply for waivers to propose plans that would increase, not decrease, the amount of welfare recipients working. But if that's the case, why waive any aspect of the work requirements? What, exactly, would the waivers in question -- none of which have yet been issued -- do?

The answer is that the states, and the Obama administration, do want to be able to give benefits to more people who aren't working as currently defined. But they say the problem is that the current definitions are too restrictive, and that loosening them would lead to more people getting jobs and being self-sufficient in the long run.

"The law sets forward a very complicated measure of work participation that pretty much all sides agree should be changed," said Liz Schott, an expert on the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program for the left-leaning Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. "It's too complicated and it doesn't measure the right things."
What Obama Really Did to Welfare Reform

Do you have other information to support your claim?
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RE: Trump proposes Medicaid work requirements
(01-11-2018 09:51 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  The problem is that you will need bureaucrats who will manage things properly...and they do not exist.

The result will be 95-year old cancer patients denied coverage and 40 year old drug dealers forging their way with a resume on a napkin.



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