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Can Nathan Knight be the best WMBB player of all time?
Sounds crazy to ask this early, but he has been the best player on this team and it’s not close. We aren’t the same without him. If he keeps playing like this for the next 2 years it has to be considered. Here is a video done informing the world about him:
https://t.co/xj4tmePdUw
01-10-2018 03:50 PM
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RE: Can Nathan Knight be the best WMBB player of all time?
Why can't we just appreciate the season he is having and the type of person he appears to be? He, and the rest of the guys appear to be very humble and unselfish and are playing great together. We can assess his place in Tribe lore after his time is completed(or at least after the season). No question he is a candidate for POY, but we have only played 4 conference games.
01-10-2018 03:55 PM
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RE: Can Nathan Knight be the best WMBB player of all time?
Ugh. Just not a fan of this thread, TribePride52. You were right with the first 6 words of your post, and you should have followed that instinct to its logical conclusion.
(This post was last modified: 01-10-2018 04:25 PM by WM Beancounter.)
01-10-2018 04:23 PM
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RE: Can Nathan Knight be the best WMBB player of all time?
Sure why not? Nate is awesome.
01-10-2018 06:32 PM
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RE: Can Nathan Knight be the best WMBB player of all time?
I know this is a controversial topic. I just wanted to see people’s opinions. This is premature but like I said he’s been playing insane this year and was really good last year as a true freshman.
01-10-2018 07:12 PM
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RE: Can Nathan Knight be the best WMBB player of all time?
Just looking at Win Shares, which only goes back to 1995:

Quinn McDowell: 13.9
Prewitt: 13.3
Moran: 12.6
Tarpey: 12.0
Thornton: 10.8
Schneider: 10.2
Rusthoven: 10.2
Dixon: 8.9
Bracy: 8.4
Hess: 7.8 (just at W&M)
Knight: 4.7 (and counting)

Win Shares (like most advanced metrics) is a blunt tool not meant for precise delineations. If two players are within a win of each other you could make an argument for either one. I was a little shocked to see McDowell atop the list. My personal pick is Moran but I'm biased because I watched him and he had no help.
01-10-2018 08:38 PM
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RE: Can Nathan Knight be the best WMBB player of all time?
Can he? Of course. Will he? I look forward to finding out.
01-10-2018 09:02 PM
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RE: Can Nathan Knight be the best WMBB player of all time?
(01-10-2018 08:38 PM)Rocco Wrote:  Just looking at Win Shares, which only goes back to 1995:

Quinn McDowell: 13.9
Prewitt: 13.3
Moran: 12.6
Tarpey: 12.0
Thornton: 10.8
Schneider: 10.2
Rusthoven: 10.2
Dixon: 8.9
Bracy: 8.4
Hess: 7.8 (just at W&M)
Knight: 4.7 (and counting)

Win Shares (like most advanced metrics) is a blunt tool not meant for precise delineations. If two players are within a win of each other you could make an argument for either one. I was a little shocked to see McDowell atop the list. My personal pick is Moran but I'm biased because I watched him and he had no help.

That list is a mess. Do you know the formula behind win shares because I seriously judge any metric that has Quinn McDowell as the best player in since 1995.
01-10-2018 09:51 PM
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RE: Can Nathan Knight be the best WMBB player of all time?
(01-10-2018 09:51 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 08:38 PM)Rocco Wrote:  Just looking at Win Shares, which only goes back to 1995:

Quinn McDowell: 13.9
Prewitt: 13.3
Moran: 12.6
Tarpey: 12.0
Thornton: 10.8
Schneider: 10.2
Rusthoven: 10.2
Dixon: 8.9
Bracy: 8.4
Hess: 7.8 (just at W&M)
Knight: 4.7 (and counting)

Win Shares (like most advanced metrics) is a blunt tool not meant for precise delineations. If two players are within a win of each other you could make an argument for either one. I was a little shocked to see McDowell atop the list. My personal pick is Moran but I'm biased because I watched him and he had no help.

That list is a mess. Do you know the formula behind win shares because I seriously judge any metric that has Quinn McDowell as the best player in since 1995.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/about/ws.html

McDowell's sophomore and junior years were really good and senior year was pedestrian. He forgot how to shoot as a senior. Also W&M played at a slower tempo those years then they do now so that probably makes his numbers look better (lots of points on fewer possessions). I don't buy it either. If I'm picking an all-time W&M team I'm probably picking everyone on that list ahead of him, and that's not meant as a dig at McDowell.
01-10-2018 10:34 PM
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RE: Can Nathan Knight be the best WMBB player of all time?
Premature yes. Answer in 2 years from now will be known. if you want to dream then think BIG-Comparison to contemplate would be when Dave Robinson played at Navy in our league.

Check out Dave's stats in CAA:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pla...son-1.html
01-11-2018 08:01 AM
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