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RE: Trump endorses clean DACA bill
(01-10-2018 01:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Question for the conservatives...do you honestly think we have no fences or walls along any point of our southern border? I'm seriously confused by the continual comments as if nothing of the sort currently exists.

I have not seen one person advocate for a 1/2 mile high wall along the entire span of the southern border.

But walls work. The city of El Paso admits their wall is working. Israels wall works. The wall around Mark Zuckerburgs house apparently works.

There a miles and miles of area on the southern border where a wall is needed.
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(01-10-2018 01:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  The stage is set for the Democrats to kick some tail in the elections getting sidetracked by crap like DACA that few people but a subset of the base really care about is the best hope the GOP has for November.

You. Are. Dreaming.

Pun intended.
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RE: Trump endorses clean DACA bill
(01-10-2018 01:10 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 01:07 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 12:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 12:04 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 12:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Because a wall is a big waste of money. If you build a wall with no additional security, the "illegals" will simply build a ladder that's one foot higher.

We can accomplish the same thing by simply hiring more agents.


So you are admitting that Obama was completely incompetent?

I thought I would try having a serious conversation with you.

I guess that's not happening.

Its not happening cause you are running away.

You dont want a wall. You want to protect the border with agents. But we just went through that with Obama. And he failed.

Why do you insist on going with plans that have proven to be failures? Why are you not admitting that Obama failed to secure the border utilizing the plan you just mentioned?

Your logic is flawed. Why is it always all or nothing with you conservatives?

Just because we still have illegal immigration doesn't mean that there is no enforcement.

We still have murders in this country. Does that mean that you police chief is utterly incompetent?

We still have deaths in the hospitals. Does that mean you doctors are utterly incompetent?

Come on man. Spare me the hyperbole and have some honest discussion here.

lol...i dont know---maybe because under Obama many states and cities actually officially announced that they would refuse to enforce immigration laws and suffered zero consequences? Just saying...
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RE: Trump endorses clean DACA bill
(01-10-2018 01:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 01:10 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 01:07 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 12:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 12:04 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  So you are admitting that Obama was completely incompetent?

I thought I would try having a serious conversation with you.

I guess that's not happening.

Its not happening cause you are running away.

You dont want a wall. You want to protect the border with agents. But we just went through that with Obama. And he failed.

Why do you insist on going with plans that have proven to be failures? Why are you not admitting that Obama failed to secure the border utilizing the plan you just mentioned?

Your logic is flawed. Why is it always all or nothing with you conservatives?

Just because we still have illegal immigration doesn't mean that there is no enforcement.

We still have murders in this country. Does that mean that you police chief is utterly incompetent?

We still have deaths in the hospitals. Does that mean you doctors are utterly incompetent?

Come on man. Spare me the hyperbole and have some honest discussion here.

lol...i dont know---maybe because under Obama many states and cities actually officially announced that they would refuse to enforce immigration laws and suffered zero consequences? Just saying...

can we take that at face value denouncing current methodology, or were you being facetious (we already know it's the latter....you're nothing but chock full of girly spew)

I've had enough fun with you for a day.....

edit: forgive me coog.....I thought I was responding to fitster.....lol.....I own my mistakes 03-wink
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(01-10-2018 12:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 10:36 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  During the meeting on Tuesday, Trump was asked by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) if he would support "a clean DACA bill."
"Yeah, I would like to do it," Trump said during the meeting, according to The Washington Post.

Wow I didn't see that coming.

And I'd be surprised if it did happen. Trump wants to use children as a way to extort Dems and moderates on his stupid wall.

First off when you say children define that? The average age of “Dreamers” enrolled in DACA is 24 years old. So most are not 'children'

President Trump is willing to deal to get something he wants. But If the wall was already funded...I think President Trump would still want DACA passed. Unlike some of you far left and far right...I think this president is as close to center on these social problems than any President that came before him. Those on the left are just to damn stupid/hatred to see it.

The funny thing is...most on the left are willing to let these 'children' be deported over a wall that hurts no one. Might cost some money but that's it. And like it or not a wall is one of the best things to keep something out. If it wasn't people would not build one around their homes

Now who is playing games with these 'children'?
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RE: Trump endorses clean DACA bill
(01-10-2018 12:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 10:36 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  During the meeting on Tuesday, Trump was asked by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) if he would support "a clean DACA bill."
"Yeah, I would like to do it," Trump said during the meeting, according to The Washington Post.

Wow I didn't see that coming.

And I'd be surprised if it did happen. Trump wants to use children as a way to extort Dems and moderates on his stupid wall.

You do realize more than three quarters of dreamers are adults, right?

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RE: Trump endorses clean DACA bill
(01-10-2018 01:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Question for the conservatives...do you honestly think we have no fences or walls along any point of our southern border? I'm seriously confused by the continual comments as if nothing of the sort currently exists.

Question for the liberals... does having a tiny amount of chain link and other easily thwarted "barriers" mean we don't need a functional barrier?

IOW... If you have a door, why do you lock it... I mean there is a door there right?

This ought to stop them amiright?

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If walls and fences were not affective, why do prisons have them? I wonder how many guards it would take to cover the ground a wall does? If guards were all that was needed......they would not have walls.

I say let Fit move next to a prison with no walls and see how safe he feels. I bet he would be one of the first begging the city to BUILD THAT WALL
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(01-10-2018 01:43 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 12:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 10:36 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  During the meeting on Tuesday, Trump was asked by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) if he would support "a clean DACA bill."
"Yeah, I would like to do it," Trump said during the meeting, according to The Washington Post.

Wow I didn't see that coming.

And I'd be surprised if it did happen. Trump wants to use children as a way to extort Dems and moderates on his stupid wall.

First off when you say children define that? The average age of “Dreamers” enrolled in DACA is 24 years old. So most are not 'children'

President Trump is willing to deal to get something he wants. But If the wall was already funded...I think President Trump would still want DACA passed. Unlike some of you far left and far right...I think this president is as close to center on these social problems than any President that came before him. Those on the left are just to damn stupid/hatred to see it.

The funny thing is...most on the left are willing to let these 'children' be deported over a wall that hurts no one. Might cost some money but that's it. And like it or not a wall is one of the best things to keep something out. If it wasn't people would not build one around their homes

Now who is playing games with these 'children'?

another XACLY! they don't understand this in scope.....

btw, DACA funding has been extended to June......I wonder why....

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

ol' boy is playing 'em like a fiddle....
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(01-10-2018 02:00 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  If walls and fences were not affective, why do prisons have them? I wonder how many guards it would take to cover the ground a wall does? If guards was all that was needed......they would not have walls.

I say let Fit move next to a prison with no walls and see how safe he feels. I bet he would be one of the first begging the city to BUILD THAT WALL

And we will put one next to Tom with half the doors removed.. Because, you know, you have some doors and that should be good enough, right?
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