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I found four computer polls where UCF finished number one
I got curious and decided to take a look at the six old BCS computer polls. UCF fell from 1st to 2nd in the PR Wolfe poll, which was posted here a few weeks back. UCF was 4th in the Billingsley Poll, 8th in the Massey composite, and 13th in Sagarin.

I'm still waiting on Colley and Anderson Sports to release their final numbers (both had UCF 2nd and ahead of Alabama going into the title game).

However, according to these four fine pollsters, UCF is the national champs!

Roundtable - http://www.rtsratings.com/curCFBRetro.asp

M Cubed - http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/2017/index.shtml

MJS - http://sagedrive.com/mjs_standings/2017/summary.htm

ISR - http://football.kislanko.com/2017/ISR_current.html
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RE: I found four computer polls where UCF finished number one
Yeah, simple, give wins greater weight than SoS, or more importantly inflate the negative impact of losses. In short ignore the established playoff criteria.
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RE: I found four computer polls where UCF finished number one
(01-09-2018 02:25 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  I got curious and decided to take a look at the six old BCS computer polls. UCF fell from 1st to 2nd in the PR Wolfe poll, which was posted here a few weeks back. UCF was 4th in the Billingsley Poll, 8th in the Massey composite, and 13th in Sagarin.

I'm still waiting on Colley and Anderson Sports to release their final numbers (both had UCF 2nd and ahead of Alabama going into the title game).

However, according to these four fine pollsters, UCF is the national champs!

Roundtable - http://www.rtsratings.com/curCFBRetro.asp

M Cubed - http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/2017/index.shtml

MJS - http://sagedrive.com/mjs_standings/2017/summary.htm

ISR - http://football.kislanko.com/2017/ISR_current.html

There are websites that say the Earth is flat and Elvis is alive as well.

They're just as credible as any "UCF - National Champ" site.

Just because someone say it doesn't make it true.....
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RE: I found four computer polls where UCF finished number one
(01-09-2018 02:25 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  I got curious and decided to take a look at the six old BCS computer polls. UCF fell from 1st to 2nd in the PR Wolfe poll, which was posted here a few weeks back. UCF was 4th in the Billingsley Poll, 8th in the Massey composite, and 13th in Sagarin.

I'm still waiting on Colley and Anderson Sports to release their final numbers (both had UCF 2nd and ahead of Alabama going into the title game).

However, according to these four fine pollsters, UCF is the national champs!


Roundtable - http://www.rtsratings.com/curCFBRetro.asp

M Cubed - http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/2017/index.shtml

MJS - http://sagedrive.com/mjs_standings/2017/summary.htm

ISR - http://football.kislanko.com/2017/ISR_current.html

Sadly for those folks, they only get to express their opinion about who is #1. They don't get to pronounce someone "national champion". If you search hard enough, you will always find a rating that doesn't take competition into account. If you play the Little Sisters of the Poor and their equivalent 12 times, you will be at the very top of those rankings - unless, of course, the good sisters beat you.

Some of those ratings are worse than others. But the thrust is that they pretty much only take into account whether you won or lost, and where the game was played. It's why I tend to disregard the Massey Composite rankings. They have too many of these outliers included in their data.
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RE: I found four computer polls where UCF finished number one
Last year, more than 30 computers said Alabama was national champs after they lost to Clemson so not very meaningful.

Heck today's Massey has computers that have Clemson, Wisconsin, and Penn State #1.
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RE: I found four computer polls where UCF finished number one
(01-09-2018 02:39 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Last year, more than 30 computers said Alabama was national champs after they lost to Clemson so not very meaningful.

Heck today's Massey has computers that have Clemson, Wisconsin, and Penn State #1.

Now I want you to hold that thought Quo and then consider that computers are a large part of our National Defense.

There, do you feel better now?
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RE: I found four computer polls where UCF finished number one
(01-09-2018 08:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 02:39 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Last year, more than 30 computers said Alabama was national champs after they lost to Clemson so not very meaningful.

Heck today's Massey has computers that have Clemson, Wisconsin, and Penn State #1.

Now I want you to hold that thought Quo and then consider that computers are a large part of our National Defense.

There, do you feel better now?

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RE: I found four computer polls where UCF finished number one
Don't forget Colley Matrix, one of the former BCS polls and a poll which got all four playoff teams right (i.e. agreed with the committee) in 2014, 2015 and 2016.
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RE: I found four computer polls where UCF finished number one
Usually you don't have to go out looking for that kind of thing.
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RE: I found four computer polls where UCF finished number one
(01-09-2018 02:28 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Yeah, simple, give wins greater weight than SoS, or more importantly inflate the negative impact of losses. In short ignore the established playoff criteria.

The playoff criteria does stupid stuff like rank UCF 12 in the first place. Why should we trust the playoff criteria over anything else?
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