(01-09-2018 03:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 02:27 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Lol...No way Jerimiah transfers at the semester...

That is just stupid on his part...

He would only have one semester left to play unless he graduates early or sits out a 1 1/2 years.

The situation reminds me of the talk about Joe Jackson’s transfer under Pastner.

There is a precedent. The Lawson’s opted to sit out a year rather than play for Tubby. I guess it depends on Martin’s level of dissatisfaction vs the cost to transfer.

People leave programs every year. So we have two malcontents, with an incredibly foolish father, leave the program and that’s a precedent? They were pissed that daddy had to sit in the corner and wanted to stick it to us. After that, I don’t blame anyone for leaving. The program certainly wasn’t going to the NCAA tourney anytime soon after that. I think Markel should have left, not sure I’d go to another weak program, but a fresh start was probably a good thing for him. I’d rather see playing time go to the new players anyway.

Martin had two bad games in a row. He was disappointed. It happens. Not sure if he graduates this year or not, but I think a transfer might make sense in his case too. Really depends if we bring in any good players.

(01-09-2018 03:27 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 03:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 02:27 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Lol...No way Jerimiah transfers at the semester...

That is just stupid on his part...

He would only have one semester left to play unless he graduates early or sits out a 1 1/2 years.

The situation reminds me of the talk about Joe Jackson’s transfer under Pastner.

There is a precedent. The Lawson’s opted to sit out a year rather than play for Tubby. I guess it depends on Martin’s level of dissatisfaction vs the cost to transfer.

People leave programs every year. So we have two malcontents, with an incredibly foolish father, leave the program and that’s a precedent? They were pissed that daddy had to sit in the corner and wanted to stick it to us. After that, I don’t blame anyone for leaving. The program certainly wasn’t going to the NCAA tourney anytime soon after that. I think Markel should have left, not sure I’d go to another weak program, but a fresh start was probably a good thing for him. I’d rather see playing time go to the new players anyway.

Martin had two bad games in a row. He was disappointed. It happens. Not sure if he graduates this year or not, but I think a transfer might make sense in his case too. Really depends if we bring in any good players.

Let me get this straight....you're okay with Martin transferring out at the end of this season, AND you think it's a reflection of him and not what's going on with the coaching staff. Frigging amazing how some of you can rationalize what is happening with our basketball program.

(01-09-2018 03:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 03:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 02:27 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Lol...No way Jerimiah transfers at the semester...

That is just stupid on his part...

He would only have one semester left to play unless he graduates early or sits out a 1 1/2 years.

The situation reminds me of the talk about Joe Jackson’s transfer under Pastner.

There is a precedent. The Lawson’s opted to sit out a year rather than play for Tubby. I guess it depends on Martin’s level of dissatisfaction vs the cost to transfer.

No one really sits out a year to only have 1 year left...

No one leaves at Semester to transfer who is a Junior...It is just a bad decision.

Kuran did it after his sophomore season it was a bad decision as well...He gave up an entire year of eligibility

He did it during his soph season.

Transferring mid season is the fools way.

If Kuran had waited until AFTER his sophomore season, he would have sat out the entire next year and had two years eligibility.

Instead, he played one full season at as frosh, played one sophomore semester in Memphis, sat out the second soph semester at Rhode Island, sat out the 1st junior semester at RI, then played the 2nd junior semester and all senior year at RI.

So, he only played three full years.

Pookie transferred in April of his frosh year, sat out a full year and now is in his second full year at Lasalle as a junior. He will get four years of playing time.

The sky falling again? It is all just frustration. Guys quit everyday, every hour, every week. They get a night of rest then comeback the next day. Hell, when you spend enough time around the same group of guys as much as basketball players do, they get tired of each other whether they're winning or losing. The damn thing is a grind.

Players need to LISTEN to their coach and trust that he knows what it takes for them to be successful. Coach has to be patient and be a good jockey and occasionally go to the whip. They'll surprise you. These youngsters are smarter than you think. No, they don't know everything, contrary to what they believe, but, they know a little about something. Hopefully, this clearing of the air will be just the thing that gets them firmly going in the right direction.

(01-09-2018 03:47 PM)Beat Everybody Wrote:  The sky falling again? It is all just frustration. Guys quit everyday, every hour, every week. They get a night of rest then comeback the next day. Hell, when you spend enough time around the same group of guys as much as basketball players do, they get tired of each other whether they're winning or losing. The damn thing is a grind.

Players need to LISTEN to their coach and trust that he knows what it takes for them to be successful. Coach has to be patient and be a good jockey and occasionally go to the whip. They'll surprise you. These youngsters are smarter than you think.

Players need to be obedient.

"They’re learning some things and it just takes time," Smith said. "We’re gonna be who I am. I’ve done this a long time. I know what it takes and they’re starting to get the message, thank goodness.”

When the players that Tubby broadcasts to the world are 'his kind of players' up and leave, there is trouble.

Why does Martin want to leave? That begs to be examined. Just like the Tarik thing did.

How many scholleys will we need to fill for next year? It's a fair question to be thinking about now.

So no one listened to the interview?

Nowhere in the interview did he say he thought of transferring. Just sayin...

(01-09-2018 03:47 PM)Beat Everybody Wrote:  The sky falling again? It is all just frustration. Guys quit everyday, every hour, every week. They get a night of rest then comeback the next day. Hell, when you spend enough time around the same group of guys as much as basketball players do, they get tired of each other whether they're winning or losing. The damn thing is a grind.

Players need to LISTEN to their coach and trust that he knows what it takes for them to be successful. Coach has to be patient and be a good jockey and occasionally go to the whip. They'll surprise you. These youngsters are smarter than you think. No, they don't know everything, contrary to what they believe, but, they know a little about something. Hopefully, this clearing of the air will be just the thing that gets them firmly going in the right direction.

Only 2 players who played last year returned this year. And now one of those players is wanting to leave.

(01-09-2018 04:27 PM)450bench Wrote:  Nowhere in the interview did he say he thought of transferring. Just sayin...

Did you really expect him to say that?

(01-09-2018 04:31 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 03:47 PM)Beat Everybody Wrote:  The sky falling again? It is all just frustration. Guys quit everyday, every hour, every week. They get a night of rest then comeback the next day. Hell, when you spend enough time around the same group of guys as much as basketball players do, they get tired of each other whether they're winning or losing. The damn thing is a grind.

Players need to LISTEN to their coach and trust that he knows what it takes for them to be successful. Coach has to be patient and be a good jockey and occasionally go to the whip. They'll surprise you. These youngsters are smarter than you think. No, they don't know everything, contrary to what they believe, but, they know a little about something. Hopefully, this clearing of the air will be just the thing that gets them firmly going in the right direction.

Only 2 players who played last year returned this year. And now one of those players is wanting to leave.

Did he say that?

(01-09-2018 04:34 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 04:31 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 03:47 PM)Beat Everybody Wrote:  The sky falling again? It is all just frustration. Guys quit everyday, every hour, every week. They get a night of rest then comeback the next day. Hell, when you spend enough time around the same group of guys as much as basketball players do, they get tired of each other whether they're winning or losing. The damn thing is a grind.

Players need to LISTEN to their coach and trust that he knows what it takes for them to be successful. Coach has to be patient and be a good jockey and occasionally go to the whip. They'll surprise you. These youngsters are smarter than you think. No, they don't know everything, contrary to what they believe, but, they know a little about something. Hopefully, this clearing of the air will be just the thing that gets them firmly going in the right direction.

Only 2 players who played last year returned this year. And now one of those players is wanting to leave.

Did he say that?

Well, Rivers does graduate in May.

(01-09-2018 04:34 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 04:27 PM)450bench Wrote:  Nowhere in the interview did he say he thought of transferring. Just sayin...

Did you really expect him to say that?

It's pure conjecture if he didn't say it.

I heard Nickelberry wants to leave too ... see how easy that is. Say something and suddenly it becomes a thing.

(01-09-2018 04:34 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 04:27 PM)450bench Wrote:  Nowhere in the interview did he say he thought of transferring. Just sayin...

Did you really expect him to say that?

I thought that if it was discussed that he'd skirt around the edges of that a bit, but I get your point. Based on that 13 minute interview, he sounded fairly positive yet reasonably realistic. He's clearly a good kid.

lol skirting would be to his disadvantage.

Just like Shaq Goodwin waited to give his personal diatribe till he graduated.

(01-09-2018 02:58 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 02:41 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  I would transfer at this point as well.

And you would do that because of your feelings or what is best for your career?

I don't see too many situations where Martin will be able to shine like he is this year in Memphis.

Are you kidding? You are the only one. You don't think that a player averaging 17.3 points per game for a mediocre team will be able to find a situation that isn't good for him?

My concern is this...if the team finishes with 14 or 15 wins and there is no indication of a coaching change, we could have a bunch of transfers. I think that is a real possibility. And if that is reality, combined with the lack of recruits/recruiting, the program would be in serious, serious trouble. It's in a tough spot right now, but imagine if even fielding a team becomes a challenge.
That's why the power/money people will need to really be paying attention right now. Riding with the thought of "well Tubby knows what he's doing and he'll turn it around" could be the most dangerous thought process we've experienced here in the basketball program.

(01-09-2018 04:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  lol skirting would be to his disadvantage.

Just like Shaq Goodwin waited to give his personal diatribe till he graduated.

Just giving my opinion of his interview, which was a good one. Maybe he DID think about it, maybe he didn't. I could certainly understand if he thought about it. Absolutely.

(01-09-2018 03:27 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 03:02 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 02:27 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Lol...No way Jerimiah transfers at the semester...

That is just stupid on his part...

He would only have one semester left to play unless he graduates early or sits out a 1 1/2 years.

The situation reminds me of the talk about Joe Jackson’s transfer under Pastner.

There is a precedent. The Lawson’s opted to sit out a year rather than play for Tubby. I guess it depends on Martin’s level of dissatisfaction vs the cost to transfer.

People leave programs every year. So we have two malcontents, with an incredibly foolish father, leave the program and that’s a precedent? They were pissed that daddy had to sit in the corner and wanted to stick it to us. After that, I don’t blame anyone for leaving. The program certainly wasn’t going to the NCAA tourney anytime soon after that. I think Markel should have left, not sure I’d go to another weak program, but a fresh start was probably a good thing for him. I’d rather see playing time go to the new players anyway.

Martin had two bad games in a row. He was disappointed. It happens. Not sure if he graduates this year or not, but I think a transfer might make sense in his case too. Really depends if we bring in any good players.

I almost threw my back out from laughing so hard.