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RE: C-USA and AAC Commissioners agree that the 4 team Playoff is fine.
(01-09-2018 01:57 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 01:45 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 11:57 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:26 PM)Luckyshot Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 07:51 PM)monarx Wrote:  Despicable. These puppets should be ashamed of themselves. After what happened to UCF this season, the argument to expand would actually gain momentum. Judy is a joke, and we all know that, but the AAC guy seemed to have some vision and spine. If we can't even lobby for our own best interest we may as well admit defeat and let the P5 secede and do their own thing.

UCF and the Big 10 both had big cases this year.

I think if UCF had played Auburn late Nov and won, they would have had a case. They were 12-0 with 1 win over a ranked team (Memphis) at the time, which I'm unsure if that is a 'big case'.



Who had Bama beaten?

A Memphis team that lost to the 7th place Big 12 team at home.

Undefeated is impressive but UCF had nowhere close the resume needed to be considered for the playoff.

5th place and considering La Tech has never even sniffed a bowl that pays out like the Liberty Bowl...there's no way you'll make us feel bad about a 1 point loss to ISU and a 10 win season.
01-09-2018 08:28 PM
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RE: C-USA and AAC Commissioners agree that the 4 team Playoff is fine.
The problem is that the "committee" will ALWAYS have the "body of work" buuuuuuuuuuuuuullshite to use as a safety valve. For instance, in 1999 Marshall was ranked #10 going into the Motor City Bowl (THAT was the bowl we got as #10). Even with that ranking today there is no way Marshall gets a sniff at the playoff because of the weak schedule. The best team we played that year was arguably Western Michigan followed by a 6-6 Clemson team who we beat in Death Valley followed by Toledo. All of the others were poor teams in the MAC.

The same thing happened in 2014. Even if we didn't lose to WKU, Boise would've jumped us anyway because of schedule strength. This is the same bug that bit UCF. Yes, they beat Auburn and two other ranked teamsin conference and a P5 team, BUT the bad outweighed the good in the eyes of the committee.

The P5's schedule is stronger because the lower tier P5's are much better than the lower tier G5 teams. Playing a full P5 conference schedule is ALWAYS going to carry more weight. That being said, IF UCF had played four P5 schools (say 2 were ranked) and beat another two or three in conference, then I think their case would hold MUCH more water.

Anyway, one hell of a turnaround for UCF and way to rock the boat!
01-10-2018 10:18 AM
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RE: C-USA and AAC Commissioners agree that the 4 team Playoff is fine.
(01-10-2018 10:18 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  The problem is that the "committee" will ALWAYS have the "body of work" buuuuuuuuuuuuuullshite to use as a safety valve. For instance, in 1999 Marshall was ranked #10 going into the Motor City Bowl (THAT was the bowl we got as #10). Even with that ranking today there is no way Marshall gets a sniff at the playoff because of the weak schedule. The best team we played that year was arguably Western Michigan followed by a 6-6 Clemson team who we beat in Death Valley followed by Toledo. All of the others were poor teams in the MAC.

The same thing happened in 2014. Even if we didn't lose to WKU, Boise would've jumped us anyway because of schedule strength. This is the same bug that bit UCF. Yes, they beat Auburn and two other ranked teamsin conference and a P5 team, BUT the bad outweighed the good in the eyes of the committee.

The P5's schedule is stronger because the lower tier P5's are much better than the lower tier G5 teams. Playing a full P5 conference schedule is ALWAYS going to carry more weight. That being said, IF UCF had played four P5 schools (say 2 were ranked) and beat another two or three in conference, then I think their case would hold MUCH more water.

Anyway, one hell of a turnaround for UCF and way to rock the boat!

If they did that, they would still have played 5 fewer P5 games than every P5 and would be ranked behind every P5 and Notre Dame (and probably BYU) in SOS. That means their SOS would be around 67. SOS will be a "go to" excuse to eliminate any deserving G5 for the Committee every year. 04-cheers
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RE: C-USA and AAC Commissioners agree that the 4 team Playoff is fine.
(01-09-2018 04:40 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 03:57 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Let me throw this out to the class, and not just for CUSA fans but any G5 school fans:

What would be the proper response from your commissioner? And if that answer is something in the neighborhood of "I want him/her to oppose the current CFP and bowl system with everything they have," the follow-up would be: Would you be willing to leave the system to back up those words?

Because while I think we all would like to see a more equatable system in place, the cold hard truth is that at best, any change would be incremental — it took 30 years to go from an undefeated Fresno State team playing in the Raisin Bowl to an undefeated UCF team playing Auburn in the Peach. And while it might do our spirits well to see the G5 commissioners lock hands and raise their arms in defiance of the Capital before the start of the Quarter Quell, at the end of the day our conferences and the schools within them are going to be looking out for themselves. Being in a compromised system sucks, but being outside of it sucks harder.

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Boise was undefeated and finished 5th in 2006.

In 2009 Boise finished 4th and was ranked as high 2nd in 2010 up until the 12th week when they lost Nevada.

They would have most definitely played in 4 team playoff that year if they had went undefeated. Boise had beaten multiple ranked P5 opponents on the road unlike UCF who had #72 SOS Sagarin and 0 ranked P5 wins.
That same team, playing the same schedule, would NOT be int he top 4 today, precisely because they would have to be put in the NCP. When you let the guy that you know cheats deal you your cards . . .
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RE: C-USA and AAC Commissioners agree that the 4 team Playoff is fine.
(01-10-2018 12:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 10:18 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  The problem is that the "committee" will ALWAYS have the "body of work" buuuuuuuuuuuuuullshite to use as a safety valve. For instance, in 1999 Marshall was ranked #10 going into the Motor City Bowl (THAT was the bowl we got as #10). Even with that ranking today there is no way Marshall gets a sniff at the playoff because of the weak schedule. The best team we played that year was arguably Western Michigan followed by a 6-6 Clemson team who we beat in Death Valley followed by Toledo. All of the others were poor teams in the MAC.

The same thing happened in 2014. Even if we didn't lose to WKU, Boise would've jumped us anyway because of schedule strength. This is the same bug that bit UCF. Yes, they beat Auburn and two other ranked teamsin conference and a P5 team, BUT the bad outweighed the good in the eyes of the committee.

The P5's schedule is stronger because the lower tier P5's are much better than the lower tier G5 teams. Playing a full P5 conference schedule is ALWAYS going to carry more weight. That being said, IF UCF had played four P5 schools (say 2 were ranked) and beat another two or three in conference, then I think their case would hold MUCH more water.

Anyway, one hell of a turnaround for UCF and way to rock the boat!

If they did that, they would still have played 5 fewer P5 games than every P5 and would be ranked behind every P5 and Notre Dame (and probably BYU) in SOS. That means their SOS would be around 67. SOS will be a "go to" excuse to eliminate any deserving G5 for the Committee every year. 04-cheers

I agree, I was just saying they would at least have a better argument. Still a moot point, but at least a better moot point. lol
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RE: C-USA and AAC Commissioners agree that the 4 team Playoff is fine.
(01-09-2018 03:01 PM)freshtop Wrote:  
(01-09-2018 02:55 PM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 06:00 PM)rook360 Wrote:  "Some critics of the system have said that what's missing in college football is the Cinderella stories that are seen more frequently in the college basketball tournament, but C-USA commissioner Judy MacLeod said she believes it is possible.
'I think it's harder,' she said, 'but something's got to prove me wrong to think it's not possible."
Uhmm Boise and UCF. Our commissioner just pretty much went in the corner, curled up in a ball, and took her scraps. I respect the AAC for the fact that at least they are aggressive in promoting themselves.

Stupid is as Stupid does.

We should all just start scheduling 4 away games against the blue bloods each year. You would have to have 4 wins against that group and then an undefeated conference slate to have a snowball's chance at getting in. Even if you managed that 1/million feat, they would still pat you on the back and put you at number 5.

Now you get it. The playoffs are for P-5 teams alone. I was wondering when people would start to catch on? Take your scraps and be thankful.
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