(01-08-2018 04:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote: No lets stay on topic. How often does voter fraud occur and how often does illegal guns get bought and sold and what are the consequences of each?
according to liberals, voter fraud doesn't exist...
B U L L S H I T.
How much longer are you and your ilk going to keep putting out this lie? You'd think you'd stop by now...if you ever wanted to be taken seriously here. But that's just me I guess.
Lets rephrase:
according to liberals voter fraud might exist, but it is so insignificant they are willing to call every fing state that requires an ID to vote 'racist;
according to liberals gun show loopholes are rampant, even though they can never even verify a single violation, and call for an ID to be presented even if I let my next door neighbor borrow my shotgun to go dove hunting.
(01-08-2018 04:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote: No lets stay on topic. How often does voter fraud occur and how often does illegal guns get bought and sold and what are the consequences of each?
according to liberals, voter fraud doesn't exist...
B U L L S H I T.
How much longer are you and your ilk going to keep putting out this lie? You'd think you'd stop by now...if you ever wanted to be taken seriously here. But that's just me I guess.
Lets rephrase:
according to liberals voter fraud might exist, but it is so insignificant they are willing to call every fing state that requires an ID to vote 'racist;
according to liberals gun show loopholes are rampant, even though they can never even verify a single violation, and call for an ID to be presented even if I let my next door neighbor borrow my shotgun to go dove hunting.
(01-08-2018 04:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote: No lets stay on topic. How often does voter fraud occur and how often does illegal guns get bought and sold and what are the consequences of each?
according to liberals, voter fraud doesn't exist...
B U L L S H I T.
How much longer are you and your ilk going to keep putting out this lie? You'd think you'd stop by now...if you ever wanted to be taken seriously here. But that's just me I guess.
Lets rephrase:
according to liberals voter fraud might exist, but it is so insignificant they are willing to call every fing state that requires an ID to vote 'racist;
Does that sound about right?
1. No, voter fraud DOES exist.
2. No, not all efforts are racist. That being said, the vast majority have been shown to adversely effect minorities the most.
3. Most liberals, including myself, are in favor of Voter ID. We just want it fair, (basically) free of charge, and to result in as little disenfranchisement as possible.
4. Many efforts have been said, even by Republicans, to have been done simply for Republicans to win and nothing else really. Case in point:
(01-08-2018 03:32 PM)Fitbud Wrote: I've never heard any one say that the trouble with guns are online sales.
What I HAVE heard is the "gun show loop hole".
which is a fancy way of saying "third party sales" e.g. regular people who are not gun dealers.
But... "Expand background checks to more gun sales—including by closing the gun show and internet sales loopholes—and strengthen the background check system" -- HillaryClinton.com
And... " it doesn't matter where you conduct your business—from a store, at gun shows, or over the Internet: If you're in the business of selling firearms, you must get a license and conduct background checks." -- Obamawhitehousearchives.com
Or... " A violent felon can buy (a gun) over the Internet with no background check, no questions asked."" -- President Obama
Whatabout... "Just how easy is it to buy a gun over the Internet?" -- Washington post
Either you're lying, you have a terrible memory, of you just bury your head in the sand when gun control is discussed to provide yourself with plausible deniability
(01-08-2018 04:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote: No lets stay on topic. How often does voter fraud occur and how often does illegal guns get bought and sold and what are the consequences of each?
according to liberals, voter fraud doesn't exist...
B U L L S H I T.
How much longer are you and your ilk going to keep putting out this lie? You'd think you'd stop by now...if you ever wanted to be taken seriously here. But that's just me I guess.
Lets rephrase:
according to liberals voter fraud might exist, but it is so insignificant they are willing to call every fing state that requires an ID to vote 'racist;
Does that sound about right?
1. No, voter fraud DOES exist.
2. No, not all efforts are racist. That being said, the vast majority have been shown to adversely effect minorities the most.
3. Most liberals, including myself, are in favor of Voter ID. We just want it fair, (basically) free of charge, and to result in as little disenfranchisement as possible.
4. Many efforts have been said, even by Republicans, to have been done simply for Republicans to win and nothing else really. Case in point:
Lolz.
Almost all of the voter ID laws in the last 15-20 years are such, and specifically all have "if you can show that you cannot pay your state of residence for an ID one will be provided." Sure as **** hasnt kept the Democrats/liberals/progressives for continuously raising this point as a screech, much as you just did.
Just admit it -- Democrats just knee jerk are against the concept of actually using IDs in the voting process; much as they are adamant that 'gun show loopholes' are dangerously in the majority of gun sales.
(This post was last modified: 01-09-2018 11:46 AM by tanqtonic.)
(01-09-2018 11:44 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: Almost all of the voter ID laws in the last 15-20 years are such, and specifically all have "if you can show that you cannot pay your state of residence for an ID one will be provided." Sure as **** hasnt kept the Democrats/liberals/progressives for continuously raising this point as a screech, much as you just did.
Just admit it -- Democrats just knee jerk are against the concept of actually using IDs in the voting process; much as they are adamant that 'gun show loopholes' are dangerously in the majority of gun sales.
Ever notice that all of the people who say they have no means to obtain an ID (too poor, no transportation) have no problem getting their welfare card, a new IPhone or some new Jordans?
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