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01-06-2018 07:31 PM
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It’s worked out well for Maryland
01-07-2018 08:38 AM
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College sports in general has lost its' soul. The rivalries are gone for the most part. The conferences (including the one I follow CUSA) make zero geographical sense. I am happy for Maryland. The ACC is full of the likes Louisville, Miami, Florida State and UNC, not exactly the role model of the "right way" to do college athletics. It is comical to watch the hypocrisy that comes out some of these universities and the ACC office in Greensboro. There is one primary driver behind college athletics and it is not education, the athletes themselves or alumni/fans.. it is.....$$$. That does not just apply to the ACC but just about every conference outside the Ivy and Patriot Leagues.

College athletics needs to hit the reset button. If ESPN continues to struggle it may just happen.
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01-07-2018 09:01 AM
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Maryland missed the tournament their last four years in the ACC. Hmm. I would rather have them in the ACC than Louisville, yes, but it’s not like the ACC lost Carolina, Duke, or even Virginia or State. The author is going back to the 40’s for violations and shady tactics? Um, Maryland was the poster child for that behavior! Interesting topic, but a definite homer piece.
01-07-2018 09:17 AM
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(01-07-2018 08:38 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  It’s worked out well for Maryland

In some ways, but for Maryland hoops fans - and as the article notes, in terms of passion Maryland is a basketball school and always will be - the B1G will never be the same as playing Virginia and the Carolina schools. Those were 60+ year hoops rivalries that were lost. They face the same problem Nebraska faces on the other end - losing all those generations-old Big 8 rivalries in football to get that B1G money.
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01-07-2018 09:39 AM
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How many OOC games do they schedule vs their ACC rivals?
One of the reasons for leaving was the fifteen team league .
They were not hosting all the traditional ACC schools already.
Nebraska misses OU and UT but that is probably it. Iowa or Iowa St who cares . Playing OU or Texas almost every year would fix that. Maryland should look to schedule UNC,Duke and Virginia at least one a year if possible.

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01-07-2018 11:14 AM
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The fact that Feinstein actually wrote that "it was Louisville basketball that Swofford and company were courting" is laughable when every major move for the last 20 years has been completely motivated by capitalizing on football and football markets. Not to mention it is completely ignorant of how things actually played out in the ACC when UL was actually invited. It's a damn shame, as he used to be one of the best, but is either intentionally or unintentionally obtuse to college athletics outside of the world of college hoops, or just engaging in being an absolute shill.

Scandals and all, it is hard to argue that the ACC didn't upgrade athletically with UL. And the ACC, like all athletic conferences outside the Ivy, is in the business of athletics and making money through athletics, and not anything else. Losing Maryland was costly to the ACC primarily because it opened the door to the eastern media markets, which the ACC had designs on monopolizing since at least 2003, to another power conference; not because of any prowess of Maryland athletics itself or the loss of any particularly significant high profile rivalry games for any other members of the conference.
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01-07-2018 11:28 AM
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(01-07-2018 09:01 AM)Norm DaNiner Wrote:  College sports in general has lost its' soul. The rivalries are gone for the most part. The conferences (including the one I follow CUSA) make zero geographical sense. I am happy for Maryland. The ACC is full of the likes Louisville, Miami, Florida State and UNC, not exactly the role model of the "right way" to do college athletics. It is comical to watch the hypocrisy that comes out some of these universities and the ACC office in Greensboro. There is one primary driver behind college athletics and it is not education, the athletes themselves or alumni/fans.. it is.....$$$. That does not just apply to the ACC but just about every conference outside the Ivy and Patriot Leagues.

College athletics needs to hit the reset button. If ESPN continues to struggle it may just happen.

$ applies to the Patriot League now too. It has long abandoned any claim otherwise.
01-07-2018 11:34 AM
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(01-07-2018 09:01 AM)Norm DaNiner Wrote:  College sports in general has lost its' soul.
College athletics needs to hit the reset button. If ESPN continues to struggle it may just happen.
Sorry, but it never had a soul.
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01-07-2018 02:06 PM
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(01-07-2018 11:28 AM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  The fact that Feinstein actually wrote that "it was Louisville basketball that Swofford and company were courting" is laughable when every major move for the last 20 years has been completely motivated by capitalizing on football and football markets. Not to mention it is completely ignorant of how things actually played out in the ACC when UL was actually invited. It's a damn shame, as he used to be one of the best, but is either intentionally or unintentionally obtuse to college athletics outside of the world of college hoops, or just engaging in being an absolute shill.

Scandals and all, it is hard to argue that the ACC didn't upgrade athletically with UL. And the ACC, like all athletic conferences outside the Ivy, is in the business of athletics and making money through athletics, and not anything else. Losing Maryland was costly to the ACC primarily because it opened the door to the eastern media markets, which the ACC had designs on monopolizing since at least 2003, to another power conference; not because of any prowess of Maryland athletics itself or the loss of any particularly significant high profile rivalry games for any other members of the conference.

There were some strategic aspects in taking Louisville as well. The Big 12 might have found some added stability if Cincinnati and Louisville had ever been taken. By taking Louisville the ACC not only improved their athletics, but they essentially removed the obviously better of the two potential candidates for the Big 12 essentially sealing their position as the less viable conference. Until the revenue gap between the Big 12 and ACC is closed it is important perceptually to be the more stable. I think ESPN realized this and last year's entourage of would be applicants to the Big 12 proves this move to have been advantageous in that regard.
01-07-2018 02:21 PM
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