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(01-08-2018 10:21 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
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(01-07-2018 05:26 PM)JMUSteeler Wrote:  Cole needed to add 25 lbs this past year, and didn't. He's far from a shoe-in.

He does look like a sting bean. I question his run durability.

He added 15 lbs. According to the roster, he went from 195 as a freshman to 210 this year. You're not going to add 25 lbs of muscle in a season (unless you're juicing). No sense in adding fat unless you're a lineman. If he adds another 5-10 lbs to have 215-220 on his 6'5" frame he'll be big enough.

Well according to an O-lineman I talked to that's simply not true. Obviously the roster says that, but that's been a frustration.
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RE: QB Next Year
(01-08-2018 12:35 PM)JMUSteeler Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 10:21 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 06:28 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 05:26 PM)JMUSteeler Wrote:  Cole needed to add 25 lbs this past year, and didn't. He's far from a shoe-in.

He does look like a sting bean. I question his run durability.

He added 15 lbs. According to the roster, he went from 195 as a freshman to 210 this year. You're not going to add 25 lbs of muscle in a season (unless you're juicing). No sense in adding fat unless you're a lineman. If he adds another 5-10 lbs to have 215-220 on his 6'5" frame he'll be big enough.

Well according to an O-lineman I talked to that's simply not true. Obviously the roster says that, but that's been a frustration.
I didn‘t think the roster was fudged as much as in the past. It seems to be more exact now with for example guys listed at 209, 212, 218, 309, etc etc. I thought in the past would more likely round up to the nearest 5 lb increments.

Maybe at one point he got closer to 210 then dropped back closer to 200..
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RE: QB Next Year
I know there is another signing period coming up in early February, but wondering if anybody has an accounting of how many full 'ships we have open (or to offer) for potential transfers? -- often a flurry of activity post-spring practices and towards end of spring semester. It will not surprise me if HCMH gets more interest from P5 QB's looking to transfer...and then of course is the interest reciprocated by our staff if so.
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I believe HCMH is quoted as saying we were holding some back for the next signing period. 5 or so maybe ? It was during one of his interviews with Greg Madia I think.
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RE: QB Next Year
(01-08-2018 01:52 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:35 PM)JMUSteeler Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 10:21 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 06:28 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 05:26 PM)JMUSteeler Wrote:  Cole needed to add 25 lbs this past year, and didn't. He's far from a shoe-in.

He does look like a sting bean. I question his run durability.

He added 15 lbs. According to the roster, he went from 195 as a freshman to 210 this year. You're not going to add 25 lbs of muscle in a season (unless you're juicing). No sense in adding fat unless you're a lineman. If he adds another 5-10 lbs to have 215-220 on his 6'5" frame he'll be big enough.

Well according to an O-lineman I talked to that's simply not true. Obviously the roster says that, but that's been a frustration.
I didn‘t think the roster was fudged as much as in the past. It seems to be more exact now with for example guys listed at 209, 212, 218, 309, etc etc. I thought in the past would more likely round up to the nearest 5 lb increments.

Maybe at one point he got closer to 210 then dropped back closer to 200..

By the way, I'm not trying to be an a$$. Just repeating what I was told, by someone that I trusted would know.
01-08-2018 02:32 PM
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RE: QB Next Year
(01-08-2018 02:32 PM)JMUSteeler Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 01:52 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:35 PM)JMUSteeler Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 10:21 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 06:28 PM)Dukester Wrote:  He does look like a sting bean. I question his run durability.

He added 15 lbs. According to the roster, he went from 195 as a freshman to 210 this year. You're not going to add 25 lbs of muscle in a season (unless you're juicing). No sense in adding fat unless you're a lineman. If he adds another 5-10 lbs to have 215-220 on his 6'5" frame he'll be big enough.

Well according to an O-lineman I talked to that's simply not true. Obviously the roster says that, but that's been a frustration.
I didn‘t think the roster was fudged as much as in the past. It seems to be more exact now with for example guys listed at 209, 212, 218, 309, etc etc. I thought in the past would more likely round up to the nearest 5 lb increments.

Maybe at one point he got closer to 210 then dropped back closer to 200..

By the way, I'm not trying to be an a$$. Just repeating what I was told, by someone that I trusted would know.
No worries- didn't think you were. And I know I sometimes come across as an arse on here..
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RE: QB Next Year
Someone call Jalen Hurts. He's gonna need to transfer.
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(01-06-2018 11:26 PM)Dukester Wrote:  The QB we have next year will have the luxury of a solid offensive line, a solid set of running backs, and some decent talent at WR and End.

I think any QB will be fine.

Defensive line is my concern.

Bingo!
01-09-2018 10:57 AM
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RE: QB Next Year
Harry "The Weapon" O'Kelly needs to be moved to running back at minimum. Dude sported a 20 yards per carry average this past season. Give it to him 25 times and he's pushing 500 yards. Or, move The Weapon over to QB. I wonder if he can shoot 3-pointers or can throw a nasty curve ball?

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Lets bring in another dual threat #2 jersey wearing beast. My lord this would be a gift from the Football Gods (whom I'm very, very pissed at right now by the way).

Go get Jalen Houston, go get Jalen!
01-09-2018 01:11 PM
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(01-09-2018 01:11 PM)Dadgum Wrote:  Lets bring in another dual threat #2 jersey wearing beast. My lord this would be a gift from the Football Gods (whom I'm very, very pissed at right now by the way).

Go get Jalen Houston, go get Jalen!

let Coach Houston do the coaching, he has done great so far
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Stick is a solid QB but he is not a game changing QB, yet the Bizon won the Natty. If our o line can become dominating, we can eat up clock and keep good offenses off the field. I see our offense heading in the direction of the Bizon offense. Less flash and more grit. Schor and his scrambling ability are gone. Look for a hard nosed running scheme next year.

D line is a huge concern. Starting four will be good and so will our LBs. The depth is a big concern. Who will use this offseason to change their bodies the way Robinson and Urquhart did? Those two became difference makers.

There is plenty of talent left on the roster. Fill in a few holes and have a few players raise their level of play. That is all it takes.
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The problem is there are a series of good rush defenses in the CAA and in the FCS playoffs. We will need a QB and WRs who can pass and catch to be the difference maker. You keep running into the VUs and NDSUs and they'll keep shutting your running game down no matter what you do.
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(01-08-2018 02:32 PM)JMUSteeler Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 01:52 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:35 PM)JMUSteeler Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 10:21 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 06:28 PM)Dukester Wrote:  He does look like a sting bean. I question his run durability.

He added 15 lbs. According to the roster, he went from 195 as a freshman to 210 this year. You're not going to add 25 lbs of muscle in a season (unless you're juicing). No sense in adding fat unless you're a lineman. If he adds another 5-10 lbs to have 215-220 on his 6'5" frame he'll be big enough.

Well according to an O-lineman I talked to that's simply not true. Obviously the roster says that, but that's been a frustration.
I didn‘t think the roster was fudged as much as in the past. It seems to be more exact now with for example guys listed at 209, 212, 218, 309, etc etc. I thought in the past would more likely round up to the nearest 5 lb increments.

Maybe at one point he got closer to 210 then dropped back closer to 200..

By the way, I'm not trying to be an a$$. Just repeating what I was told, by someone that I trusted would know.

I asked Cole in late August if he really weighed 210. He said Yes. I then looked at the OL guys he was hanging with. They nodded yes. I am not sure what he weighs this morning.
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Other than he started for Pitt, I don’t see that much to be excited for with Ben.

He started on a worse team than us, and his stats were not that great. Not a lot of FBS interest.

I’lll stick with Cole as my pick and the new frosh second.
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Given the offense JMU runs.. biggest factor until they put the pads back on this spring:

r-Fr Gage Moloney, 6-2, 219lbs
Jr - Cole Johnson, 6-5, 210lbs

I know you guys just got done debating what Cole actually weighs, but I just wanted to add my 2 cents because I agree. Cole's durability will be a major sticking point with HCMH in my opinion given how last spring ended. I'm going to make an assumption here, but won't shock me one bit if Gage shows up measuring in at 6-2, 230lbs this year. That's a serious horse running the option potentially if he picks up the passing game to go with it.
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(01-15-2018 02:30 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  Given the offense JMU runs.. biggest factor until they put the pads back on this spring:

r-Fr Gage Moloney, 6-2, 219lbs
Jr - Cole Johnson, 6-5, 210lbs

I know you guys just got done debating what Cole actually weighs, but I just wanted to add my 2 cents because I agree. Cole's durability will be a major sticking point with HCMH in my opinion given how last spring ended. I'm going to make an assumption here, but won't shock me one bit if Gage shows up measuring in at 6-2, 230lbs this year. That's a serious horse running the option potentially if he picks up the passing game to go with it.

Is Maloney a dual threat though? Can he run the option?

Pretty sure he was more pro style coming out of hs.
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(01-15-2018 05:01 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 02:30 PM)jmu007 Wrote:  Given the offense JMU runs.. biggest factor until they put the pads back on this spring:

r-Fr Gage Moloney, 6-2, 219lbs
Jr - Cole Johnson, 6-5, 210lbs

I know you guys just got done debating what Cole actually weighs, but I just wanted to add my 2 cents because I agree. Cole's durability will be a major sticking point with HCMH in my opinion given how last spring ended. I'm going to make an assumption here, but won't shock me one bit if Gage shows up measuring in at 6-2, 230lbs this year. That's a serious horse running the option potentially if he picks up the passing game to go with it.

Is Maloney a dual threat though? Can he run the option?

Pretty sure he was more pro style coming out of hs.

Just watched his highlight film again. Not a lot of runs in there, but enough to show he's got the wheels to do it when needed. I'd imagine the coaches will be pretty keen to keep the RPO plays in the playbook.

Really looking forward to spring ball.
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Quentin Dormady is transferring from Tennessee. He's got another year left in him (grad transfer). Just thought I'd throw that out there. :D
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(01-16-2018 03:32 PM)orange-to-purple Wrote:  Quentin Dormady is transferring from Tennessee. He's got another year left in him (grad transfer). Just thought I'd throw that out there. :D

To JMU?
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