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Get your 1998 Tulane National Champions T-Shirt!
Boise 2007 and Utah 2008 should get shirts also.


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RE: Get your 1998 Tulane National Champions T-Shirt!
(01-06-2018 04:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I'm not making this up:

https://images.performgroup.com/di/libra...-863649712

I think this is great...absolutely no one can say they didn't win a Natty. These smaller schools that have been marginalized by the vastly unfair college football postseason are catching on

There has never been anything official about the CFB Playoff or the BCS. If you go undefeated, you can claim anything

Boise State has won a few National Championships as well 02-13-banana03-cloud9
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RE: Get your 1998 Tulane National Champions T-Shirt!
(01-06-2018 10:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 07:28 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Are all programs going to go back and claim everything?

Personally, I'd go with '66, 11-0, defending NC, began season as #1, won the bowl game where #1 and #2 didn't even play.

It's what happens when millennials come of age. They all want a trophy, and even worse believe they deserve it!

Except Tulane went undefeated
01-08-2018 09:07 AM
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RE: Get your 1998 Tulane National Champions T-Shirt!
(01-08-2018 09:04 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 04:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I'm not making this up:

https://images.performgroup.com/di/libra...-863649712

I think this is great...absolutely no one can say they didn't win a Natty. These smaller schools that have been marginalized by the vastly unfair college football postseason are catching on

There has never been anything official about the CFB Playoff or the BCS. If you go undefeated, you can claim anything

Boise State has won a few National Championships as well 02-13-banana03-cloud9

Actually, there is something official about the CFP, as Aresco said the other day, the CFP is the process the 10 FBS conferences and ND contractually agreed to to select their national champion.

Also, you don't have to be undefeated to claim anything, you just made that up. If Troy claims a national title and wants to hold a parade, you couldn't stop them either.
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RE: Get your 1998 Tulane National Champions T-Shirt!
(01-08-2018 09:08 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:04 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 04:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I'm not making this up:

https://images.performgroup.com/di/libra...-863649712

I think this is great...absolutely no one can say they didn't win a Natty. These smaller schools that have been marginalized by the vastly unfair college football postseason are catching on

There has never been anything official about the CFB Playoff or the BCS. If you go undefeated, you can claim anything

Boise State has won a few National Championships as well 02-13-banana03-cloud9

Actually, there is something official about the CFP, as Aresco said the other day, the CFP is the process the 10 FBS conferences and ND contractually agreed to to select their national champion.

Also, you don't have to be undefeated to claim anything, you just made that up. If Troy claims a national title and wants to hold a parade, you couldn't stop them either.

NCAA championships are official

The BCS and "Playoff" are pretend TV championships
01-08-2018 09:12 AM
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RE: Get your 1998 Tulane National Champions T-Shirt!
(01-08-2018 09:12 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:08 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:04 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 04:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I'm not making this up:

https://images.performgroup.com/di/libra...-863649712

I think this is great...absolutely no one can say they didn't win a Natty. These smaller schools that have been marginalized by the vastly unfair college football postseason are catching on

There has never been anything official about the CFB Playoff or the BCS. If you go undefeated, you can claim anything

Boise State has won a few National Championships as well 02-13-banana03-cloud9

Actually, there is something official about the CFP, as Aresco said the other day, the CFP is the process the 10 FBS conferences and ND contractually agreed to to select their national champion.

Also, you don't have to be undefeated to claim anything, you just made that up. If Troy claims a national title and wants to hold a parade, you couldn't stop them either.

NCAA championships are official

Silly, the NCAA isn't on any firmer contractual/legal footing than the CFP, so both are official.

Like it or not, the winner of tonight's game will the formal, official champion of all of FBS, UCF included. Just the way it is. 07-coffee3
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RE: Get your 1998 Tulane National Champions T-Shirt!
(01-08-2018 09:12 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:08 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:04 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 04:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I'm not making this up:

https://images.performgroup.com/di/libra...-863649712

I think this is great...absolutely no one can say they didn't win a Natty. These smaller schools that have been marginalized by the vastly unfair college football postseason are catching on

There has never been anything official about the CFB Playoff or the BCS. If you go undefeated, you can claim anything

Boise State has won a few National Championships as well 02-13-banana03-cloud9

Actually, there is something official about the CFP, as Aresco said the other day, the CFP is the process the 10 FBS conferences and ND contractually agreed to to select their national champion.

Also, you don't have to be undefeated to claim anything, you just made that up. If Troy claims a national title and wants to hold a parade, you couldn't stop them either.

NCAA championships are official

The BCS and "Playoff" are pretend TV championships

Better tell the NCAA they are "pretend"

http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs
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RE: Get your 1998 Tulane National Champions T-Shirt!
(01-08-2018 03:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:12 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:08 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:04 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 04:30 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I'm not making this up:

https://images.performgroup.com/di/libra...-863649712

I think this is great...absolutely no one can say they didn't win a Natty. These smaller schools that have been marginalized by the vastly unfair college football postseason are catching on

There has never been anything official about the CFB Playoff or the BCS. If you go undefeated, you can claim anything

Boise State has won a few National Championships as well 02-13-banana03-cloud9

Actually, there is something official about the CFP, as Aresco said the other day, the CFP is the process the 10 FBS conferences and ND contractually agreed to to select their national champion.

Also, you don't have to be undefeated to claim anything, you just made that up. If Troy claims a national title and wants to hold a parade, you couldn't stop them either.

NCAA championships are official

The BCS and "Playoff" are pretend TV championships

Better tell the NCAA they are "pretend"

http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs

The NCAA doesn't name, denote, sanction, adjudicate, or officially recognize FBS (highest level) football national championships. It never has in its entire history and still does not. FBS level of play is, and always has been, outside of the NCAA's championship purview.

All the NCAA has done is list the selections of other entities (often termed "selectors" and meaning things like the AP, Coaches' poll, FWAA, CFRA, BCS, etc) in its records books or other websites. The website you linked isn't complete or official, nor contemporaneous.

The closest thing to an official NCAA list is in its Official Football Records Book where it lists all of the selections of national champions over the history of the sport that have been deemed to have been made by "major" (e.g. national in scope) selectors over the years. The selectors that were deemed to be "major" on this list weren't adjudicated by the NCAA, but were provided by a pair of college football historians. And because of that, the listings could be considered to be incomplete and subject to those historians' own personal scholarship on the topic. Further, the NCAA has actually mucked up some of listings in its records book for more recent years after the original compilation was done.

In the sports where the NCAA sponsors championships, those NCAA champions are ubiquitously recognized as national champions simply because there is no legitimate competing awarder of national championships, not to mention recognition of official NCAA championship results is mandated by institutional membership in the organization. Sports where the NCAA does not sponsor championship (such as FBS football, boxing, polo, ultimate, etc) are awarded based on whoever claims to award a national championship in those sports. Typically, there is just one such organization, which is usually the organizing organization for that sport. However, for most of college football's history, there were multiple organizations naming a national champion every year, and that is still the case, but most "major" ones have been consolidated via contract or precedent to follow the College Football Playoff results, and prior to that, the BCS results. Current and past FBS football it is analogous to college basketball prior to the NCAA starting its own tournament in 1939.
(This post was last modified: 01-08-2018 05:19 PM by CrazyPaco.)
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(01-08-2018 05:05 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 03:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:12 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:08 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:04 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  I think this is great...absolutely no one can say they didn't win a Natty. These smaller schools that have been marginalized by the vastly unfair college football postseason are catching on

There has never been anything official about the CFB Playoff or the BCS. If you go undefeated, you can claim anything

Boise State has won a few National Championships as well 02-13-banana03-cloud9

Actually, there is something official about the CFP, as Aresco said the other day, the CFP is the process the 10 FBS conferences and ND contractually agreed to to select their national champion.

Also, you don't have to be undefeated to claim anything, you just made that up. If Troy claims a national title and wants to hold a parade, you couldn't stop them either.

NCAA championships are official

The BCS and "Playoff" are pretend TV championships

Better tell the NCAA they are "pretend"

http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs

The NCAA doesn't name, denote, sanction, adjudicate, or officially recognize FBS (highest level) football national championships. It never has in its entire history and still does not. FBS level of play is, and always has been, outside of the NCAA's championship purview.

All the NCAA has done is list the selections of other entities (often termed "selectors" and meaning things like the AP, Coaches' poll, FWAA, CFRA, BCS, etc) in its records books or other websites. The website you linked isn't complete or official, nor contemporaneous.

I agree with this. The NCAA does not denote/sanction/formally recognize any FBS champions, ever.

That said, those who say that because the NCAA doesn't do this that these championships are all 'mythical' are mistaken. BCS and CFP titles are not mythical, they are the contractually-agreed on champions of all the member institutions, in the same way that the Super Bowl winner is the agreed-on champion of all the NFL franchises.
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