I count 3 terrible calls by the refs. The first was the TD, when NDSU was down. The second was the INT when the NDSU player trapped the ball on the ground. The third was the call when Stapleton was clearly down and the refs called a fumble.

(01-06-2018 01:37 PM)McDowell Duke Wrote:  I count 3 terrible calls by the refs. The first was the TD, when NDSU was down. The second was the INT when the NDSU player trapped the ball on the ground. The third was the call when Stapleton was clearly down and the refs called a fumble.

Don't forget the first play that should have been an incomplete pass but was ruled a catch and 5 yd loss.

(01-06-2018 02:11 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 01:37 PM)McDowell Duke Wrote:  I count 3 terrible calls by the refs. The first was the TD, when NDSU was down. The second was the INT when the NDSU player trapped the ball on the ground. The third was the call when Stapleton was clearly down and the refs called a fumble.

Don't forget the first play that should have been an incomplete pass but was ruled a catch and 5 yd loss.

Yes, but the calls really can’t be blamed for the loss. Too many dropped passes today, and the OL really got outplayed today.

I suppose if you got 4.5 points and are a gambler you’re happy.

Yeah our OL didn't handle the pass rush well consistently.

(01-06-2018 04:33 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Yeah our OL didn't handle the pass rush well consistently.

Not at all. Jahee was just getting schooled. If we were able to keep the pressure off of Schor I think things end much differently.

What’s the point of having replay if they just let the call stand every time? NDSU probably would have scored he first time anyway, but the guy was clearly down before putting ball across goal line. Stapleton was also obviously down. College football is such a poor on field product.

My favorite was the Stapleton incompletion. The ref tried pulling out the fumble black bag when he recovered he switched calling an incomplete pass.


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(01-06-2018 04:33 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Yeah our OL didn't handle the pass rush well consistently.

To be honest at the beginning of the season I thought the o-line would be the biggest concern. Fast forward to today 4 of those questionables didn’t play today due to injuries. It’s amazing how well they playing the end of the season.

Next year the online could be a strength and the d-line could be our biggest question mark.

(01-06-2018 04:36 PM)JMUska Wrote:  What’s the point of having replay if they just let the call stand every time? NDSU probably would have scored he first time anyway, but the guy was clearly down before putting ball across goal line. Stapleton was also obviously down. College football is such a poor on field product.

Yeah I agree that the NDSU RB was down on the first touchdown but I also don’t think that call would have mattered much as it would have been really unlikely to stop them from 4 inches out. The Stapleton “fumble” was the biggest one to me.

That said, I think the biggest impact plays were drops by the receivers and RB’s. That and I firmly believe that poor clock management at the end of the first half caused JMU to settle for 3 instead of getting a TD. JMU just didn’t execute today.

The officiating was ****. However, we had our opportunities and the receivers quite literally dropped the ball. Stapleton will be a force moving forward.
I think our young o line played as well as they could given all that has transpired in their unit this year and they were up against an always good ndsu front. They actually had a better game than I honestly expected. Perfect? No. Decent considering? Yes.

(01-06-2018 08:13 PM)Dignan Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 04:36 PM)JMUska Wrote:  What’s the point of having replay if they just let the call stand every time? NDSU probably would have scored he first time anyway, but the guy was clearly down before putting ball across goal line. Stapleton was also obviously down. College football is such a poor on field product.

Yeah I agree that the NDSU RB was down on the first touchdown but I also don’t think that call would have mattered much as it would have been really unlikely to stop them from 4 inches out. The Stapleton “fumble” was the biggest one to me.

That said, I think the biggest impact plays were drops by the receivers and RB’s. That and I firmly believe that poor clock management at the end of the first half caused JMU to settle for 3 instead of getting a TD. JMU just didn’t execute today.

The call to kick the FG at the end of the first half was a pure judgement call. If JMU fans haven’t figured it out yet, it’s in Coach Houston’s nature to always opt for the conservative, and safest option. Kicking and taking the points was conservative, but it did put points on the board and it sent JMU to the locker room on an uptick. Failing to convert and going away without any points with 6 seconds left would have been a complete disaster. MH opted to take half-a-loaf. In the end JMU still had a chance to win in the 4th, but our players just failed to make that one play needed to score another TD.

I have less of an issue with the half and more an issue with to the last drive play calling.

Looking to throw in end zone when we had plenty of time to get 5-6 yard gains and move sticks get inside 10 and then have 4 cracks at end zone. We did not manage that sequence well

(01-06-2018 01:37 PM)McDowell Duke Wrote:  I count 3 terrible calls by the refs. The first was the TD, when NDSU was down. The second was the INT when the NDSU player trapped the ball on the ground. The third was the call when Stapleton was clearly down and the refs called a fumble.

While I agree the first TD was a bad call, I actually think it's better they go ahead and give the offensive team the TD. The odds are overwhelming with the ball on the six inch line there will be a TD on the next play. The first bad call was the very first offensive play of the game which set a tone for the competence of the officiating. With that being said, we still didn't execute well enough to win.

(01-06-2018 09:55 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 01:37 PM)McDowell Duke Wrote:  I count 3 terrible calls by the refs. The first was the TD, when NDSU was down. The second was the INT when the NDSU player trapped the ball on the ground. The third was the call when Stapleton was clearly down and the refs called a fumble.

While I agree the first TD was a bad call, I actually think it's better they go ahead and give the offensive team the TD. The odds are overwhelming with the ball on the six inch line there will be a TD on the next play. The first bad call was the very first offensive play of the game which set a tone for the competence of the officiating. With that being said, we still didn't execute well enough to win.

We had multiple opportunities to put it away but a few bad throws and drops changed the tone of the game... we should have won by 2-3 scores.

I'll watch the game again on the bad calls, but either way they deserved to win. We shot ourselves in the foot too much with penalties, drops, and poor decisions on throws.

They had the better running game.

We made few big plays on offense. They made a big one on the pass.

I think they win that game 6/7 times out of 10 versus us.

We lose a lot this year. I felt this time last year we would be the team to beat this year.

I'm not sure how good we will be next year. Based on Mike Houston I guess at least a top 8 team. Defensive line, and a little bit QB, I just don't know.

(01-06-2018 11:49 PM)Dukester Wrote:  I'll watch the game again on the bad calls, but either way they deserved to win. We shot ourselves in the foot too much with penalties, drops, and poor decisions on throws.

They had the better running game.

We made few big plays on offense. They made a big one on the pass.

I think they win that game 6/7 times out of 10 versus us.

We lose a lot this year. I felt this time last year we would be the team to beat this year.

I'm not sure how good we will be next year. Based on Mike Houston I guess at least a top 8 team. Defensive line, and a little bit QB, I just don't know.

Totally disagree on that NDSU team winning the majority. We blew a coverage with 2 5th year seniors, and that was the difference in spite of all our mistakes.

Refs did gift NDSU a few calls. Lots of missed holding calls on their stretch plays.

We lose a lot. I’m excited to see what next year brings. I’ll bet right now that we’re back in Texas next year.

For everyone still crying about the Stapleton fumble, I was told the Dallas Morning Star (or whatever that paper is called) photographer got the perfect photo proving it was a fumble.

(01-06-2018 11:49 PM)Dukester Wrote:  I'll watch the game again on the bad calls, but either way they deserved to win. We shot ourselves in the foot too much with penalties, drops, and poor decisions on throws.

They had the better running game.

We made few big plays on offense. They made a big one on the pass.

I think they win that game 6/7 times out of 10 versus us.

We lose a lot this year. I felt this time last year we would be the team to beat this year.

I'm not sure how good we will be next year. Based on Mike Houston I guess at least a top 8 team. Defensive line, and a little bit QB, I just don't know.

totally disagree. you and i didn't watch the same game then. we made more self inflicted mistakes yesterday than the last two years combined.

at best, it's 5 and 5 out of 10. More likely, 6 or 7 out of 10 our way.

(01-07-2018 05:32 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  For everyone still crying about the Stapleton fumble, I was told the Dallas Morning Star (or whatever that paper is called) photographer got the perfect photo proving it was a fumble.

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(01-07-2018 08:19 AM)JMU85 Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 05:32 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  For everyone still crying about the Stapleton fumble, I was told the Dallas Morning Star (or whatever that paper is called) photographer got the perfect photo proving it was a fumble.

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Ain't that some sh!t!!! Did not see the pic he was referencing, so no problem acknowledging this. Must have gotten a shot a split second later as I was told it clearly showed the ball loose with knees up. Crazy how two pictures out of context tell such different stories!