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RE: Media idea: AAC, MWC, CUSA, BYU on NBC Sports
(01-07-2018 11:30 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Wasn't the idea of NBC bidding on the AAC contract and showing an AAC game of the week before/after ND games discussed during the last AAC TV contract negotiations?

If I recall, NBC wasn't too interested in bidding against ESPN for the contract then. Has anything changed?

Yes. Then the AAC was an unknown quantity with no track record. Heck it was basically called a dead conference walking. They were willing to pay a very nominal fee to see if it could work. They offered great time slot but very little cash. Another difference is that ESPN doesn't need all of our content anymore thereby allowing NBC to offer a decent contract for what they need while allowing for ESPN to get the stuff they want like great replacement games when the Big or Sec or Acc aren't available. As is CBS is buying our extra content from ESPN rather than showing some of the other g5 conference content that they already own07-coffee3
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RE: Media idea: AAC, MWC, CUSA, BYU on NBC Sports
(01-07-2018 11:51 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:30 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Wasn't the idea of NBC bidding on the AAC contract and showing an AAC game of the week before/after ND games discussed during the last AAC TV contract negotiations?

If I recall, NBC wasn't too interested in bidding against ESPN for the contract then. Has anything changed?

Not sure, but there's some reasons to believe why it would work. Let's say that only a few AAC/CUSA/MWC conference match ups bring ratings...games like UCF vs USF, Boise vs San Diego St, Houston vs Navy etc. the AAC and MWC, BYU have a nice amount of P5 home games coming up. From O week to week 4 (5 weeks) NBC-SN would have Saturday's full of great games to show like Florida St @ Boise, Tennesee @ BYU, Nebraska @ Cinci, West Virginia @ ECU, Oklahoma @ Temple, Utah @ BYU. These are just a few of the games scheduled for the future. Use those 5 weeks games and a game day live tail gate party at each of those games and by week 6 you've built some momentum for the Houston vs SMU game, Boise vs San Diego St conference games, plus the late season BYU vs MWC games and Army @ Air Force ...Plenty of good inventory. I think it's worth a 6 year experiment. Could blow up into something huge.
The problem is that NBC has never shown one bit of interest in any other non p5 conference other the AAC and that was when the AAC was a bigger risk than all the of the g5s combined. I could easily see NBC brokering a deal to pay the AAC enough to add maybe Byu and either Boise or Sdsu. I think the rest of the g4 would be considered not worth much at that point
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RE: Media idea: AAC, MWC, CUSA, BYU on NBC Sports
(01-07-2018 11:51 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:30 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Wasn't the idea of NBC bidding on the AAC contract and showing an AAC game of the week before/after ND games discussed during the last AAC TV contract negotiations?

If I recall, NBC wasn't too interested in bidding against ESPN for the contract then. Has anything changed?

Not sure, but there's some reasons to believe why it would work. Let's say that only a few AAC/CUSA/MWC conference match ups bring ratings...games like UCF vs USF, Boise vs San Diego St, Houston vs Navy etc. the AAC and MWC, BYU have a nice amount of P5 home games coming up. From O week to week 4 (5 weeks) NBC-SN would have Saturday's full of great games to show like Florida St @ Boise, Tennesee @ BYU, Nebraska @ Cinci, West Virginia @ ECU, Oklahoma @ Temple, Utah @ BYU. These are just a few of the games scheduled for the future. Use those 5 weeks games and a game day live tail gate party at each of those games and by week 6 you've built some momentum for the Houston vs SMU game, Boise vs San Diego St conference games, plus the late season BYU vs MWC games and Army @ Air Force ...Plenty of good inventory. I think it's worth a 6 year experiment. Could blow up into something huge.

You could say that, but it wouldn't be true. Tracking conference ratings for the G5 have shown the AAC leads the pack (esp. since full membership). The next closest, BSU, ave. viewership is middling to lower tier AAC ave. viewership. Hence, why networks such as ESPN and CBSsports have opted to pick up AAC conference games vs. other G5 above and beyond/maxing out contract minimums/maximums. BTW, MACtion gets good ratings even ahead of BSU.

Not that this means that NBC will offer big dollars or any dollars at all. But, it does show that AAC conference games as an entity, get good ratings (among G5 comparables), not just one or two teams.

ETA: Here's 2016 and 2015 G5 ratings. Earlier comparisons can be found and I'll post 2017 when I get back in town. http://csnbbs.com/thread-817438.html http://csnbbs.com/thread-767624.html
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RE: Media idea: AAC, MWC, CUSA, BYU on NBC Sports
(01-07-2018 11:30 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Wasn't the idea of NBC bidding on the AAC contract and showing an AAC game of the week before/after ND games discussed during the last AAC TV contract negotiations?

If I recall, NBC wasn't too interested in bidding against ESPN for the contract then. Has anything changed?

We had just Louisville and Boise State and etc, and nbc offered peanuts an insulting amount bc we had went open market and rebuffed ESPN. Per our contract with ESPN we have to allow them to match, so they matched but offered more exposure so we took it.
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RE: Media idea: AAC, MWC, CUSA, BYU on NBC Sports
(01-07-2018 12:14 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:51 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:30 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Wasn't the idea of NBC bidding on the AAC contract and showing an AAC game of the week before/after ND games discussed during the last AAC TV contract negotiations?

If I recall, NBC wasn't too interested in bidding against ESPN for the contract then. Has anything changed?

Not sure, but there's some reasons to believe why it would work. Let's say that only a few AAC/CUSA/MWC conference match ups bring ratings...games like UCF vs USF, Boise vs San Diego St, Houston vs Navy etc. the AAC and MWC, BYU have a nice amount of P5 home games coming up. From O week to week 4 (5 weeks) NBC-SN would have Saturday's full of great games to show like Florida St @ Boise, Tennesee @ BYU, Nebraska @ Cinci, West Virginia @ ECU, Oklahoma @ Temple, Utah @ BYU. These are just a few of the games scheduled for the future. Use those 5 weeks games and a game day live tail gate party at each of those games and by week 6 you've built some momentum for the Houston vs SMU game, Boise vs San Diego St conference games, plus the late season BYU vs MWC games and Army @ Air Force ...Plenty of good inventory. I think it's worth a 6 year experiment. Could blow up into something huge.
The problem is that NBC has never shown one bit of interest in any other non p5 conference other the AAC and that was when the AAC was a bigger risk than all the of the g5s combined. I could easily see NBC brokering a deal to pay the AAC enough to add maybe Byu and either Boise or Sdsu. I think the rest of the g4 would be considered not worth much at that point

Could be right about NBC having no interest in anyone else but I do remember watching some TCU MWC conference games on NBC-SN (it had a different name then) as well as watching some CUSA games on NBC-SN.
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RE: Media idea: AAC, MWC, CUSA, BYU on NBC Sports
(01-07-2018 12:48 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:14 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:51 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:30 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Wasn't the idea of NBC bidding on the AAC contract and showing an AAC game of the week before/after ND games discussed during the last AAC TV contract negotiations?

If I recall, NBC wasn't too interested in bidding against ESPN for the contract then. Has anything changed?

Not sure, but there's some reasons to believe why it would work. Let's say that only a few AAC/CUSA/MWC conference match ups bring ratings...games like UCF vs USF, Boise vs San Diego St, Houston vs Navy etc. the AAC and MWC, BYU have a nice amount of P5 home games coming up. From O week to week 4 (5 weeks) NBC-SN would have Saturday's full of great games to show like Florida St @ Boise, Tennesee @ BYU, Nebraska @ Cinci, West Virginia @ ECU, Oklahoma @ Temple, Utah @ BYU. These are just a few of the games scheduled for the future. Use those 5 weeks games and a game day live tail gate party at each of those games and by week 6 you've built some momentum for the Houston vs SMU game, Boise vs San Diego St conference games, plus the late season BYU vs MWC games and Army @ Air Force ...Plenty of good inventory. I think it's worth a 6 year experiment. Could blow up into something huge.
The problem is that NBC has never shown one bit of interest in any other non p5 conference other the AAC and that was when the AAC was a bigger risk than all the of the g5s combined. I could easily see NBC brokering a deal to pay the AAC enough to add maybe Byu and either Boise or Sdsu. I think the rest of the g4 would be considered not worth much at that point

Could be right about NBC having no interest in anyone else but I do remember watching some TCU MWC conference games on NBC-SN (it had a different name then) as well as watching some CUSA games on NBC-SN.
You may well be right but the issue is that they obviously didn't think it was worth it because they didn't continue showing that package of games when they could've then as well as now,and done so for pennies on the dollar 07-coffee3
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RE: Media idea: AAC, MWC, CUSA, BYU on NBC Sports
(01-07-2018 12:48 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:14 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:51 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:30 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Wasn't the idea of NBC bidding on the AAC contract and showing an AAC game of the week before/after ND games discussed during the last AAC TV contract negotiations?

If I recall, NBC wasn't too interested in bidding against ESPN for the contract then. Has anything changed?

Not sure, but there's some reasons to believe why it would work. Let's say that only a few AAC/CUSA/MWC conference match ups bring ratings...games like UCF vs USF, Boise vs San Diego St, Houston vs Navy etc. the AAC and MWC, BYU have a nice amount of P5 home games coming up. From O week to week 4 (5 weeks) NBC-SN would have Saturday's full of great games to show like Florida St @ Boise, Tennesee @ BYU, Nebraska @ Cinci, West Virginia @ ECU, Oklahoma @ Temple, Utah @ BYU. These are just a few of the games scheduled for the future. Use those 5 weeks games and a game day live tail gate party at each of those games and by week 6 you've built some momentum for the Houston vs SMU game, Boise vs San Diego St conference games, plus the late season BYU vs MWC games and Army @ Air Force ...Plenty of good inventory. I think it's worth a 6 year experiment. Could blow up into something huge.
The problem is that NBC has never shown one bit of interest in any other non p5 conference other the AAC and that was when the AAC was a bigger risk than all the of the g5s combined. I could easily see NBC brokering a deal to pay the AAC enough to add maybe Byu and either Boise or Sdsu. I think the rest of the g4 would be considered not worth much at that point

Could be right about NBC having no interest in anyone else but I do remember watching some TCU MWC conference games on NBC-SN (it had a different name then) as well as watching some CUSA games on NBC-SN.

It was called Versus back then until NBC bought them. The MWC had a contract with them and CBS Sports which bought CSTV, the startup network the MWC ditched ESPN for. Versus showed lots of rodeo and MMA. But looking back, the MWC did not have a bad tv exposure compared to what they have now. They were on CBS Sports, Versus and The Mtn.

As far as NBC Sports, they’re really not relevant on Saturday afternoon/nights. How many figure skating and Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan documentaries reruns can they air?
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(01-07-2018 02:13 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:48 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:14 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:51 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:30 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Wasn't the idea of NBC bidding on the AAC contract and showing an AAC game of the week before/after ND games discussed during the last AAC TV contract negotiations?

If I recall, NBC wasn't too interested in bidding against ESPN for the contract then. Has anything changed?

Not sure, but there's some reasons to believe why it would work. Let's say that only a few AAC/CUSA/MWC conference match ups bring ratings...games like UCF vs USF, Boise vs San Diego St, Houston vs Navy etc. the AAC and MWC, BYU have a nice amount of P5 home games coming up. From O week to week 4 (5 weeks) NBC-SN would have Saturday's full of great games to show like Florida St @ Boise, Tennesee @ BYU, Nebraska @ Cinci, West Virginia @ ECU, Oklahoma @ Temple, Utah @ BYU. These are just a few of the games scheduled for the future. Use those 5 weeks games and a game day live tail gate party at each of those games and by week 6 you've built some momentum for the Houston vs SMU game, Boise vs San Diego St conference games, plus the late season BYU vs MWC games and Army @ Air Force ...Plenty of good inventory. I think it's worth a 6 year experiment. Could blow up into something huge.
The problem is that NBC has never shown one bit of interest in any other non p5 conference other the AAC and that was when the AAC was a bigger risk than all the of the g5s combined. I could easily see NBC brokering a deal to pay the AAC enough to add maybe Byu and either Boise or Sdsu. I think the rest of the g4 would be considered not worth much at that point

Could be right about NBC having no interest in anyone else but I do remember watching some TCU MWC conference games on NBC-SN (it had a different name then) as well as watching some CUSA games on NBC-SN.

It was called Versus back then until NBC bought them. The MWC had a contract with them and CBS Sports which bought CSTV, the startup network the MWC ditched ESPN for. Versus showed lots of rodeo and MMA. But looking back, the MWC did not have a bad tv exposure compared to what they have now. They were on CBS Sports, Versus and The Mtn.

As far as NBC Sports, they’re really not relevant on Saturday afternoon/nights. How many figure skating and Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan documentaries reruns can they air?

Well, NBC Sports does have a contract to televise ND home hockey games on certain Friday and Saturday nights (ND is currently ranked #1 in college hockey by one publication and are 11-0 in Big Ten conference play....there, I got my plug in) during college hockey season.

So...some of those time slots during football season are already contractually filled with the ND hockey deal.
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RE: Media idea: AAC, MWC, CUSA, BYU on NBC Sports
(01-07-2018 02:13 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:48 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:14 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:51 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:30 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Wasn't the idea of NBC bidding on the AAC contract and showing an AAC game of the week before/after ND games discussed during the last AAC TV contract negotiations?

If I recall, NBC wasn't too interested in bidding against ESPN for the contract then. Has anything changed?

Not sure, but there's some reasons to believe why it would work. Let's say that only a few AAC/CUSA/MWC conference match ups bring ratings...games like UCF vs USF, Boise vs San Diego St, Houston vs Navy etc. the AAC and MWC, BYU have a nice amount of P5 home games coming up. From O week to week 4 (5 weeks) NBC-SN would have Saturday's full of great games to show like Florida St @ Boise, Tennesee @ BYU, Nebraska @ Cinci, West Virginia @ ECU, Oklahoma @ Temple, Utah @ BYU. These are just a few of the games scheduled for the future. Use those 5 weeks games and a game day live tail gate party at each of those games and by week 6 you've built some momentum for the Houston vs SMU game, Boise vs San Diego St conference games, plus the late season BYU vs MWC games and Army @ Air Force ...Plenty of good inventory. I think it's worth a 6 year experiment. Could blow up into something huge.
The problem is that NBC has never shown one bit of interest in any other non p5 conference other the AAC and that was when the AAC was a bigger risk than all the of the g5s combined. I could easily see NBC brokering a deal to pay the AAC enough to add maybe Byu and either Boise or Sdsu. I think the rest of the g4 would be considered not worth much at that point

Could be right about NBC having no interest in anyone else but I do remember watching some TCU MWC conference games on NBC-SN (it had a different name then) as well as watching some CUSA games on NBC-SN.

It was called Versus back then until NBC bought them. The MWC had a contract with them and CBS Sports which bought CSTV, the startup network the MWC ditched ESPN for. Versus showed lots of rodeo and MMA. But looking back, the MWC did not have a bad tv exposure compared to what they have now. They were on CBS Sports, Versus and The Mtn.

As far as NBC Sports, they’re really not relevant on Saturday afternoon/nights. How many figure skating and Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan documentaries reruns can they air?


Before Versus, it was called Outdoor Life. It was mostly a hunting and fishing channel going up against the Outdoor Channel.
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(01-07-2018 04:57 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 02:13 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:48 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 12:14 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:51 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Not sure, but there's some reasons to believe why it would work. Let's say that only a few AAC/CUSA/MWC conference match ups bring ratings...games like UCF vs USF, Boise vs San Diego St, Houston vs Navy etc. the AAC and MWC, BYU have a nice amount of P5 home games coming up. From O week to week 4 (5 weeks) NBC-SN would have Saturday's full of great games to show like Florida St @ Boise, Tennesee @ BYU, Nebraska @ Cinci, West Virginia @ ECU, Oklahoma @ Temple, Utah @ BYU. These are just a few of the games scheduled for the future. Use those 5 weeks games and a game day live tail gate party at each of those games and by week 6 you've built some momentum for the Houston vs SMU game, Boise vs San Diego St conference games, plus the late season BYU vs MWC games and Army @ Air Force ...Plenty of good inventory. I think it's worth a 6 year experiment. Could blow up into something huge.
The problem is that NBC has never shown one bit of interest in any other non p5 conference other the AAC and that was when the AAC was a bigger risk than all the of the g5s combined. I could easily see NBC brokering a deal to pay the AAC enough to add maybe Byu and either Boise or Sdsu. I think the rest of the g4 would be considered not worth much at that point

Could be right about NBC having no interest in anyone else but I do remember watching some TCU MWC conference games on NBC-SN (it had a different name then) as well as watching some CUSA games on NBC-SN.

It was called Versus back then until NBC bought them. The MWC had a contract with them and CBS Sports which bought CSTV, the startup network the MWC ditched ESPN for. Versus showed lots of rodeo and MMA. But looking back, the MWC did not have a bad tv exposure compared to what they have now. They were on CBS Sports, Versus and The Mtn.

As far as NBC Sports, they’re really not relevant on Saturday afternoon/nights. How many figure skating and Tonya Harding/Nancy Kerrigan documentaries reruns can they air?


Before Versus, it was called Outdoor Life. It was mostly a hunting and fishing channel going up against the Outdoor Channel.

Yes, what NBC-SN was before was Versus which used to show MWC, CUSA (the AAC now) Big 12 and PAC 10 Games. They did this until 2012 I think. Versus also showed weekly boxing that had decent name fighters. I liked Versus.
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