(01-06-2018 02:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 01:40 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  How involved was he with the rape coverups? Or was it just his dad?

My understanding is that there has never been any evidence he was involved. The truth is, Kendall Briles wasnt in charge. Art Briles was in charge. Worse yet--it wasnt just Art covering up rapes at Baylor. The Baylor Board of Regents knew what was going on. The Baylor president knew and was involved. Hell, even the Waco police were involved in covering this stuff up. Not only that, but it wasnt just the football players getting away with rape, the Baylor administration was trying to cover up all the rapes on campus. It was a wide spread systemic issue at Baylor and within the Waco police department.

Houston isnt Baylor and the Houston Police Department is not going to turn the other way just because a UH player is involved. There will likely be some criticism of the hire--but there is zero danger of Houston developing a Baylor like culture of rape. Aint gunna happen.

Excellent point, Attackcoog

Houston Major is a big UH supporter, no way he'll allow any of this... No one here is untouchable when involved in rape crimes, no one.

If Briles wants to pay money under the table then that’s ok, if recruits need to go to a gentleman’s club to sign and Briles pays for it , again ok , but if there is a rape, then strait to prison for Briles and the rapist
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig

(01-06-2018 01:01 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 12:16 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  It seems desperate for a Texas school to rehire anyone named Briles this soon.

Eek

I wouldn't call it desperate... I will however call it brilliant b/c now Houston will be dangerous on both sides of the ball.

Having said that, UCF will have a much easier path to reaching AAC championship unlike the AAC west were you have Houston Navy Memphis to deal with... Now if Cincinnati revives than I can see a tough AAC east with UCF USF Cincinnati.

Wow, it could be another AAC NY6 showing again

Excuses already for west division failure? UCF has USF and Temple to deal with and before you scoff, Temple beat Navy handily this year. East > West

(01-06-2018 02:27 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  If Briles wants to pay money under the table then that’s ok, if recruits need to go to a gentleman’s club to sign and Briles pays for it , again ok , but if there is a rape, then strait to prison for Briles and the rapist
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig

Yeah but How was anything Kendall involved in punishable by prison? It's the idiot football players that committed those violent acts am I wrong about that?

Kendall was fired because he didn't punish the players. But if I remember the story correctly the campus police looked the other way as well.

Kendall was vetted. Applewhite and UHs presser confirmed as much. That should be good for us UH fans, imo.

(01-06-2018 12:16 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Applewhite finally admitting he is desperate for help on the offensive side. Despite the taint, I actually now have a real reason for optimism next year. Otherwise, I figured we’d probably have to serve out our Applewhite sentence as a mid-pack team. I like the hire.

This doesn't sound like desperation to me, it simply sounds like he saw a chance to fill the open OC position with a quality hire. I don't know if KB had anything to do with the situation at Baylor, but I'm sure the UH Pres and AD both vetted this guy to get comfortable with the hire, so I'm going go along with them and conclude he had nothing to do with it. Sounds to me that most UH fans against it probably think they hired Art Briles, not Kendal Briles.

And if anything, it should especially show that CMA was no different from casual UH fan in that he wasn't satisfied with the offensive output, and is trying to fix it.

But, I know already that no matter what he does, those that don't like CMA won't be satisfied with anything he does, but there's no plausible denying he's doing exactly what a good head coach should do and try to fix problems that plagued the team this past season.

It's also pretty ridiculous to expect these things to get "fixed" in the middle of the season the way a lot of UH fans were howling, this is the appropriate time to see this kind of change.

(01-06-2018 02:36 PM)derek78 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:27 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  If Briles wants to pay money under the table then that’s ok, if recruits need to go to a gentleman’s club to sign and Briles pays for it , again ok , but if there is a rape, then strait to prison for Briles and the rapist
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig

Yeah but How was anything Kendall involved in punishable by prison? It's the idiot football players that committed those violent acts am I wrong about that?

Kendall was fired because he didn't punish the players. But if I remember the story correctly the campus police looked the other way as well.

Kendall was vetted. Applewhite and UHs presser confirmed as much. That should be good for us UH fans, imo.

I very proud of UofHs clean programs, I don’t want to sell our clean reputation to the devil just to win games or for anything else unless it’s to do battle against a&m or UT at the capital

Hey, someone tell the San Diego guy that Army is standing right behind him.

Coog engineer, the sad fact is Houston hired a rapist enabling coach while at Baylor working for his dad
Fully vetted?= sweeping under the carpet
Sorry but goshlee man...

(01-06-2018 02:44 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:36 PM)derek78 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:27 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  If Briles wants to pay money under the table then that’s ok, if recruits need to go to a gentleman’s club to sign and Briles pays for it , again ok , but if there is a rape, then strait to prison for Briles and the rapist
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig

Yeah but How was anything Kendall involved in punishable by prison? It's the idiot football players that committed those violent acts am I wrong about that?

Kendall was fired because he didn't punish the players. But if I remember the story correctly the campus police looked the other way as well.

Kendall was vetted. Applewhite and UHs presser confirmed as much. That should be good for us UH fans, imo.

I very proud of UofHs clean programs, I don’t want to sell our clean reputation to the devil just to win games or for anything else unless it’s to do battle against a&m or UT at the capital

Clean reputation can go to hell when there is no one in the stadium to watch them play

(01-06-2018 02:44 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:36 PM)derek78 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:27 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  If Briles wants to pay money under the table then that’s ok, if recruits need to go to a gentleman’s club to sign and Briles pays for it , again ok , but if there is a rape, then strait to prison for Briles and the rapist
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig

Yeah but How was anything Kendall involved in punishable by prison? It's the idiot football players that committed those violent acts am I wrong about that?

Kendall was fired because he didn't punish the players. But if I remember the story correctly the campus police looked the other way as well.

Kendall was vetted. Applewhite and UHs presser confirmed as much. That should be good for us UH fans, imo.

I very proud of UofHs clean programs, I don’t want to sell our clean reputation to the devil just to win games or for anything else unless it’s to do battle against a&m or UT at the capital

Selling our reputation to the devil? That's about as bad a knee jerk as I've seen regarding this.

Because when you step back and think it, this is what statements like the above really mean:

"I don't know any of the facts of what happed at Baylor, but it's clear Pres. Renu and AD Pezman are clearly incompetent leaders. I clearly know better than they do."

(01-06-2018 02:47 PM)vick mike Wrote:  Hey, someone tell the San Diego guy that Army is standing right behind him.

Or that navy was a middling AAC team. Tulsa was terrible this year and so was New Mexico. Or how his imaginary Houston fan would bring up are overall record vs g5.

(01-06-2018 02:53 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:44 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:36 PM)derek78 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:27 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  If Briles wants to pay money under the table then that’s ok, if recruits need to go to a gentleman’s club to sign and Briles pays for it , again ok , but if there is a rape, then strait to prison for Briles and the rapist
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig

Yeah but How was anything Kendall involved in punishable by prison? It's the idiot football players that committed those violent acts am I wrong about that?

Kendall was fired because he didn't punish the players. But if I remember the story correctly the campus police looked the other way as well.

Kendall was vetted. Applewhite and UHs presser confirmed as much. That should be good for us UH fans, imo.

I very proud of UofHs clean programs, I don’t want to sell our clean reputation to the devil just to win games or for anything else unless it’s to do battle against a&m or UT at the capital

Clean reputation can go to hell when there is no one in the stadium to watch them play

Are you saying that your ok with allowing the football players rapping the female students if it means filling up the stadium?
And I mean clean enough not to get caught paying players and stuff like that

(01-06-2018 02:39 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 12:16 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Applewhite finally admitting he is desperate for help on the offensive side. Despite the taint, I actually now have a real reason for optimism next year. Otherwise, I figured we’d probably have to serve out our Applewhite sentence as a mid-pack team. I like the hire.

This doesn't sound like desperation to me, it simply sounds like he saw a chance to fill the open OC position with a quality hire. I don't know if KB had anything to do with the situation at Baylor, but I'm sure the UH Pres and AD both vetted this guy to get comfortable with the hire, so I'm going go along with them and conclude he had nothing to do with it. Sounds to me that most UH fans against it probably think they hired Art Briles, not Kendal Briles.

And if anything, it should especially show that CMA was no different from casual UH fan in that he wasn't satisfied with the offensive output, and is trying to fix it.

But, I know already that no matter what he does, those that don't like CMA won't be satisfied with anything he does, but there's no plausible denying he's doing exactly what a good head coach should do and try to fix problems that plagued the team this past season.

It's also pretty ridiculous to expect these things to get "fixed" in the middle of the season the way a lot of UH fans were howling, this is the appropriate time to see this kind of change.

Im not anti-Applewhite. I still think he might become a successful coach--however, I saw little to be optimistic about after 12 games last year (especially the bowl he had 3 weeks to prepare for). That said, I really like the the hire. Better yet--it may very well signal a move away from an offensive style I never really thought we had the horses for. The Briles offense fits our roster and recruiting abilities much better than the run first R/O offense we had the last few of years. We did ok with Ward at the helm--but Ward was special. I dont think we can count on having a Greg Ward every year.

Overall, I see the hire in a very positive light. First, it was the best possible OC available. Secondly, it tells me Applewhite might not be quaite as hard headed as I feared (or maybe he learned from his first year that he needs to change). Either way, I see it as a sign CMA is developing as a head coach.

(01-06-2018 03:13 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:53 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:44 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:36 PM)derek78 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:27 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  If Briles wants to pay money under the table then that’s ok, if recruits need to go to a gentleman’s club to sign and Briles pays for it , again ok , but if there is a rape, then strait to prison for Briles and the rapist
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig

Yeah but How was anything Kendall involved in punishable by prison? It's the idiot football players that committed those violent acts am I wrong about that?

Kendall was fired because he didn't punish the players. But if I remember the story correctly the campus police looked the other way as well.

Kendall was vetted. Applewhite and UHs presser confirmed as much. That should be good for us UH fans, imo.

I very proud of UofHs clean programs, I don’t want to sell our clean reputation to the devil just to win games or for anything else unless it’s to do battle against a&m or UT at the capital

Clean reputation can go to hell when there is no one in the stadium to watch them play

Are you saying that your ok with allowing the football players rapping the female students if it means filling up the stadium?
And I mean clean enough not to get caught paying players and stuff like that

I have to say If that's the leap of argument you are taking then I assure you none of us posters will be able to convince you otherwise. You are going to miss out on a potentially record breaking and exciting 2018 season for the Coogs.

(01-06-2018 03:13 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:53 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:44 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:36 PM)derek78 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:27 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  If Briles wants to pay money under the table then that’s ok, if recruits need to go to a gentleman’s club to sign and Briles pays for it , again ok , but if there is a rape, then strait to prison for Briles and the rapist
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig

Yeah but How was anything Kendall involved in punishable by prison? It's the idiot football players that committed those violent acts am I wrong about that?

Kendall was fired because he didn't punish the players. But if I remember the story correctly the campus police looked the other way as well.

Kendall was vetted. Applewhite and UHs presser confirmed as much. That should be good for us UH fans, imo.

I very proud of UofHs clean programs, I don’t want to sell our clean reputation to the devil just to win games or for anything else unless it’s to do battle against a&m or UT at the capital

Clean reputation can go to hell when there is no one in the stadium to watch them play

Are you saying that your ok with allowing the football players rapping the female students if it means filling up the stadium?
And I mean clean enough not to get caught paying players and stuff like that

Are you saying that Houston will begin allowing football players to freely rape students becasue we hired an OC that was at Baylor?

Just a quick FYI---there isnt a single thread of evidence that KB did anything wrong while at Baylor. He was vetted by the administration and his deal expressly says that if something new comes out that indicates he was guilty of something while at Baylor--he can be fired for cause. Yes, he is tainted due to guilt by association. But lets be honest--if it wasnt for the taint--we wouldnt have a chance in hell of landing the guy. Additionally, Kendall is a former UH football player and his wife is a former UH athlete as well. If anyone should be willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt--its U of H--where years ago he supposedly had the guts to play in games with a separated shoulder to help his Coog team mates.

(01-06-2018 03:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 03:13 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:53 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:44 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:36 PM)derek78 Wrote:  Yeah but How was anything Kendall involved in punishable by prison? It's the idiot football players that committed those violent acts am I wrong about that?

Kendall was fired because he didn't punish the players. But if I remember the story correctly the campus police looked the other way as well.

Kendall was vetted. Applewhite and UHs presser confirmed as much. That should be good for us UH fans, imo.

I very proud of UofHs clean programs, I don’t want to sell our clean reputation to the devil just to win games or for anything else unless it’s to do battle against a&m or UT at the capital

Clean reputation can go to hell when there is no one in the stadium to watch them play

Are you saying that your ok with allowing the football players rapping the female students if it means filling up the stadium?
And I mean clean enough not to get caught paying players and stuff like that

Are you saying that Houston will begin allowing football players to freely rape students becasue we hired an OC that was at Baylor?

Just a quick FYI---there isnt a single thread of evidence that KB did anything wrong while at Baylor. He was vetted by the administration and his deal expressly says that if something new comes out that indicates he was guilty of something while at Baylor--he can be fired for cause. Yes, he is tainted due to guilt by association. But lets be honest--if it wasnt for the taint--we wouldnt have a chance in hell of landing the guy. Additionally, Kendall is a former UH football player and his wife is a former UH athlete as well. If anyone should be willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt--its U of H--where years ago he supposedly had the guts to play in games with a separated shoulder to help his Coog team mates.

I too will bite the bullet with kendall

(01-06-2018 02:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 01:40 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  How involved was he with the rape coverups? Or was it just his dad?

My understanding is that there has never been any evidence he was involved. The truth is, Kendall Briles wasnt in charge. Art Briles was in charge. Worse yet--it wasnt just Art covering up rapes at Baylor. The Baylor Board of Regents knew what was going on. The Baylor president knew and was involved. Hell, even the Waco police were involved in covering this stuff up. Not only that, but it wasnt just the football players getting away with rape, the Baylor administration was trying to cover up all the rapes on campus. It was a wide spread systemic issue at Baylor and within the Waco police department.

Houston isnt Baylor and the Houston Police Department is not going to turn the other way just because a UH player is involved. There will likely be some criticism of the hire--but there is zero danger of Houston developing a Baylor like culture of rape. Aint gunna happen.

Kendall Briles has already been busted for recruiting violations at Baylor and was suspended by the NCAA. People seem to forget this because of his involvement with systemic rape culture in the Baylor program

There was two separate recruiting violations incidents that Kendall Briles was investigated by the NCAA. He was suspended in 2015 and also under investigation in late 2016 by the NCAA

(01-06-2018 03:48 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 03:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 03:13 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:53 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 02:44 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  I very proud of UofHs clean programs, I don’t want to sell our clean reputation to the devil just to win games or for anything else unless it’s to do battle against a&m or UT at the capital

Clean reputation can go to hell when there is no one in the stadium to watch them play

Are you saying that your ok with allowing the football players rapping the female students if it means filling up the stadium?
And I mean clean enough not to get caught paying players and stuff like that

Are you saying that Houston will begin allowing football players to freely rape students becasue we hired an OC that was at Baylor?

Just a quick FYI---there isnt a single thread of evidence that KB did anything wrong while at Baylor. He was vetted by the administration and his deal expressly says that if something new comes out that indicates he was guilty of something while at Baylor--he can be fired for cause. Yes, he is tainted due to guilt by association. But lets be honest--if it wasnt for the taint--we wouldnt have a chance in hell of landing the guy. Additionally, Kendall is a former UH football player and his wife is a former UH athlete as well. If anyone should be willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt--its U of H--where years ago he supposedly had the guts to play in games with a separated shoulder to help his Coog team mates.

I too will bite the bullet with kendall

Anything wrong? Lol, he has already been under investigation twice by the NCAA suspended once

Kendall Briles under investigation again in late 2016:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...violations