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Bowl payouts for Non CFP bowls
I am old enough to remember when USA Today use to put the payout for bowls in their predictions. Then again, that was before the internet destroyed newspapers. One of the best lists I have seen in a long time. I can't believe Frisco only pays 100K for both teams.

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl-schedule/
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RE: Bowl payouts for Non CFP bowls
(01-05-2018 10:24 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I am old enough to remember when USA Today use to put the payout for bowls in their predictions. Then again, that was before the internet destroyed newspapers. One of the best lists I have seen in a long time. I can't believe Frisco only pays 100K for both teams.

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl-schedule/

So I counted 30 spots for G5 teams...only a few (maybe 4?) made more than 1 million dollars for the team...most made less than 500k per team. The CFP New Year's Six bowl got UCF 4 mil.

G5 fans...you're saying that you couldn't make "roughly" 35 million (more than your current bowl revenue) to have a 15-game tournament of your top 16 teams...situated perfectly in the post-conference championship game...pre-Christmas window.

Seeing that Memphis got paid over 2 million to play Iowa State (the dregs of the P5) in a no-stakes game, I can't fathom a world where the G5 couldn't get 2 million dollars per team for a playoff...and a lot more for their semifinal and finals.
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RE: Bowl payouts for Non CFP bowls
2017 sample of Football Tournament Championship (taken from AP rankings pre-CCG weekend, since CCGs would be eliminated for G5, they’d get a week to rest/prepare during P5 CCG weekend)

Friday, Dec. 8
#9 FAU (CUSA East) at #8 Troy (Sun Belt #1), 5:30pm
#16 Akron (MAC East) at #1 UCF (AAC East), 7:30pm
#12 Houston (at-large) at #5 SDSU (at-large), 9:30pm

Saturday, Dec. 9
#15 Wyoming (at-large) at #2 Memphis (AAC West), Noon
#14 Ohio 9-4 (at-large) at #3 USF (at-large), 2pm
#10 Army (at-large) at #7 Toledo (MAC West), 4:30pm
#11 Appalachian State (Sun Belt #2) at #6 Boise State (MWC West), 8:30pm
#13 North Texas (CUSA West) at #4 Fresno State (MWC West), 9:30pm (after Heisman Ceremony)

(higher seeds used for this scenario)
Friday, Dec. 15
#8 Troy at #1 UCF 8pm

Saturday, Dec. 16
#7 Toledo at #2 Memphis, 1pm
#6 Boise State at #3 USF, 5pm
#5 SDSU at #4 Fresno St., 8:30pm

Semifinals
Gator Bowl, Wednesdsay, December 27
#4 Fresno State vs. #1 UCF
Alamo Bowl, Wednesday, December 27
#3 USF vs. #2 Memphis

Football Tournament Championship
Friday January 5 at Jerry’s World in Dallas
#2 Memphis vs. #1 UCF
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RE: Bowl payouts for Non CFP bowls
I am not a G5 fan...but I would probably (truthfully) watch as much of these "round of 16" games as I could. It's not "must see" TV for me...but with the games staggered (ala March Madness early rounds), there'd be something to watch all night Friday and all day Saturday. I'd probably end up catching about 30% of all these games total.

Compare that with the 5% of G5 bowl games that I watched this season...and that's a huge spike in viewership...again, begging for a larger money stake for G5.

The quarterfinal games...I would almost call them "can't miss" TV. Remember...they'd be competing against NO ONE on Friday night...and against only TWO NFL games on Saturday night. This is the window where the nation could really get hooked on this G5 playoff.

The semifinal games...they wouldn't compete against any real stout/blockbuster bowl games and would feature the four best G5 teams!!! (Remember, Memphis got 2 million to play Iowa State...so you know TV will pay money to see the best G5 teams.) I'd watch them for sure.

The championship...put it on the Friday night BY ITSELF...before the first weekend of the NFL playoffs and three days before the CFP championship...and it would make HUGE money. Huge...not so much because everyone loves Houston vs. Boise State or UCF vs. Memphis or Western Michigan vs. Temple but because it's a TRUE championship game...and it's football. This is can't miss TV.
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RE: Bowl payouts for Non CFP bowls
(01-06-2018 07:15 AM)micahandme Wrote:  I am not a G5 fan...but I would probably (truthfully) watch as much of these "round of 16" games as I could. .....

The championship...put it on the Friday night BY ITSELF...before the first weekend of the NFL playoffs and three days before the CFP championship...and it would make HUGE money. Huge...not so much because everyone loves Houston vs. Boise State or UCF vs. Memphis or Western Michigan vs. Temple but because it's a TRUE championship game...and it's football. This is can't miss TV.

What were your favorite moments from the FCS playoffs, then?
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RE: Bowl payouts for Non CFP bowls
Or even the App v Toledo bowl game?
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RE: Bowl payouts for Non CFP bowls
(01-05-2018 10:24 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I am old enough to remember when USA Today use to put the payout for bowls in their predictions. Then again, that was before the internet destroyed newspapers. One of the best lists I have seen in a long time. I can't believe Frisco only pays 100K for both teams.

Yep, 50k per school.

Some of these made-for-G5 bowls that were created at the start of the CFP basically have no payout at all. E.g., when the AAC created the Miami Beach Bowl, it never announced the payout because it didn't have one.
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RE: Bowl payouts for Non CFP bowls
(01-06-2018 07:51 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 07:15 AM)micahandme Wrote:  I am not a G5 fan...but I would probably (truthfully) watch as much of these "round of 16" games as I could. .....

The championship...put it on the Friday night BY ITSELF...before the first weekend of the NFL playoffs and three days before the CFP championship...and it would make HUGE money. Huge...not so much because everyone loves Houston vs. Boise State or UCF vs. Memphis or Western Michigan vs. Temple but because it's a TRUE championship game...and it's football. This is can't miss TV.

What were your favorite moments from the FCS playoffs, then?

The dirty secret these "expand the playoffs" types won't admit to is that the FBS post-season is way more fun than the FCS post-season.

I will tune in to the FCS final today but ignored the rest of the playoffs. But i watched almost every one of the bowls during the past 2 1/2 weeks, G5 and P5, was loads of fun.

Any playoff that kills off "bowl mania" just isn't worth the tradeoff, IMO.
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RE: Bowl payouts for Non CFP bowls
Here are the payouts for each P5 conference for the non-CFP Bowls this year. Total and per-school:

SEC .... $17.35m ($1.24m)

ACC ... $17.20m ($1.15m)

B12 ... $15.00m ($1.50m)

B1G ... $12.8m ($914k)

PAC ... $9.6m ($800k)

Notes:

The SEC is pretty amazing, they got the most overall money despite playing in just six non-CFP bowls. The ACC didn't quite match the SEC's overall total despite playing in nine bowls, with the highest-paying, the Citrus, not usually in their rotation. The ACC also had to split their money 15 ways because Notre Dame was part of the rotation this year.

The Big 12 also has a very good lineup, tallying $15m for just seven games, and having the highest per-school average thanks to having fewer teams.

The B1G's lineup is surprisingly weak, and the PAC's is just plain bad.

The entirety of the G5 collected $17.8m, a little more than the SEC got, and that included Memphis/ACC getting a whopping $2.4m from the Liberty Bowl, a bowl usually not in their rotation.

So again, as with the CFP, the G5 is treated kind of like one P5 conference.
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RE: Bowl payouts for Non CFP bowls
(01-06-2018 06:20 AM)micahandme Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 10:24 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl-schedule/



Seeing that Memphis got paid over 2 million to play Iowa State (the dregs of the P5) in a no-stakes game, I can't fathom a world where the G5 couldn't get 2 million dollars per team for a playoff...and a lot more for their semifinal and finals.

The Liberty contracted out of the other dreg that normally would have gotten the 2 mil I have no problems no seeing the G5 get 2 mil per school for playoffs.. If G4 thinks it will work, do it on your own.. leave AAC out of it.
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