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UCF claims a National Championship. Why are they doing it?
UCF's President and AD are claiming a National Championship for the school. Not THE National Championship, but A National Championship.

What are they up to? While only speculative, I found this interesting, with implications for all G5s, including NIU.

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I support this 100%, and think this is exactly the type of thing that will continue moving forward the idea of a full December Madness CFB playoff that includes the G5 conferences.
01-05-2018 11:33 AM
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(01-05-2018 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I support this 100%, and think this is exactly the type of thing that will continue moving forward the idea of a full December Madness CFB playoff that includes the G5 conferences.

I don't want a separate G5 playoff, but if threatening one opens us up to a 16 team playoff with each G5 with one horse in the race, amen.
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I support it. FBS is the only level of football that doesn't have a real playoff.
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(01-05-2018 11:47 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I support this 100%, and think this is exactly the type of thing that will continue moving forward the idea of a full December Madness CFB playoff that includes the G5 conferences.

I don't want a separate G5 playoff, but if threatening one opens us up to a 16 team playoff with each G5 with one horse in the race, amen.

I’ve always favored a 16-team playoff (read “Death to the BCS”). Realistically, the best we can hope for now is an 8-team playoff, with a guaranteed G5 berth. If that happened, it would also probably force the P5 into more equitable revenue-sharing.

Much better than the idea of a G5 playoff or a drop to FCS.
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(01-05-2018 12:26 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 11:47 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I support this 100%, and think this is exactly the type of thing that will continue moving forward the idea of a full December Madness CFB playoff that includes the G5 conferences.

I don't want a separate G5 playoff, but if threatening one opens us up to a 16 team playoff with each G5 with one horse in the race, amen.

I’ve always favored a 16-team playoff (read “Death to the BCS”). Realistically, the best we can hope for now is an 8-team playoff, with a guaranteed G5 berth. If that happened, it would also probably force the P5 into more equitable revenue-sharing.

Much better than the idea of a G5 playoff or a drop to FCS.

Hopefully at 16 the G5 participant won't be ranked the 16th seed. Otherwise you're going to draw the #1 seed and be one and done every year. Probably have to be 12 or higher to have a realistic chance to get passed the first round. If its only 8 teams you can be sure the G5 will be #8 and get the #1.
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(01-05-2018 12:48 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 12:26 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 11:47 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 11:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I support this 100%, and think this is exactly the type of thing that will continue moving forward the idea of a full December Madness CFB playoff that includes the G5 conferences.

I don't want a separate G5 playoff, but if threatening one opens us up to a 16 team playoff with each G5 with one horse in the race, amen.

I’ve always favored a 16-team playoff (read “Death to the BCS”). Realistically, the best we can hope for now is an 8-team playoff, with a guaranteed G5 berth. If that happened, it would also probably force the P5 into more equitable revenue-sharing.

Much better than the idea of a G5 playoff or a drop to FCS.

Hopefully at 16 the G5 participant won't be ranked the 16th seed. Otherwise you're going to draw the #1 seed and be one and done every year. Probably have to be 12 or higher to have a realistic chance to get passed the first round. If its only 8 teams you can be sure the G5 will be #8 and get the #1.

No doubt. But, there’s the chance to pull the upset. Which is more than the G5s have now.
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RE: UCF claims a National Championship. Why are they doing it?
Here's a blurb from Steve Greenberg's column in today's Sun-Times:


It’s Your Turn. This time, we’ll start with a taste of the reaction that came my way after I dared to suggest that UCF, the pride of the American Athletic Conference, embarrassed itself by proclaiming its 13-0 football team the national champion:

UCF Hype responded: No Steve. What is silly is UCF not even having a chance. If Bama or Georgia wants to be National Champions, then need to go through undefeated UCF to get there. Otherwise, they just get an asterix (sic). Nobody is better than UNDEFEATED.

Here’s who’s better than undefeated: Alabama and Georgia. And probably a half-dozen other teams. The Knights, who beat Auburn in a game that was meaningless to the Tigers, needed two overtimes at home in the AAC title game to eke past Memphis and into the Peach Bowl. In a playoff game, the Tide or the Dogs would’ve been favored by at least two touchdowns, and even Earl in Orlando knows in his heart how that would’ve played out. UCF anointing itself the champ is so off the rails, it’s like a child star going straight from an Emmys win to rehab.

So when a G5 beats a big P5 team, I guess that now means it's because the game was meaningless to the P5.
01-05-2018 01:35 PM
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Interesting concept on a 16-team playoff with auto bids to all G5 conferences.

https://sports.yahoo.com/heres-radical-n...18359.html
01-05-2018 01:41 PM
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RE: UCF claims a National Championship. Why are they doing it?
(01-05-2018 01:35 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Here's a blurb from Steve Greenberg's column in today's Sun-Times:


It’s Your Turn. This time, we’ll start with a taste of the reaction that came my way after I dared to suggest that UCF, the pride of the American Athletic Conference, embarrassed itself by proclaiming its 13-0 football team the national champion:

UCF Hype responded: No Steve. What is silly is UCF not even having a chance. If Bama or Georgia wants to be National Champions, then need to go through undefeated UCF to get there. Otherwise, they just get an asterix (sic). Nobody is better than UNDEFEATED.

Here’s who’s better than undefeated: Alabama and Georgia. And probably a half-dozen other teams. The Knights, who beat Auburn in a game that was meaningless to the Tigers, needed two overtimes at home in the AAC title game to eke past Memphis and into the Peach Bowl. In a playoff game, the Tide or the Dogs would’ve been favored by at least two touchdowns, and even Earl in Orlando knows in his heart how that would’ve played out. UCF anointing itself the champ is so off the rails, it’s like a child star going straight from an Emmys win to rehab.

So when a G5 beats a big P5 team, I guess that now means it's because the game was meaningless to the P5.

I guess for them it's a valid excuse which can be used anytime they lose. Also, what does that say to the bowl organizers that their game means nothing?

That's the Sun Times for ya. Didn't even know they even existed anymore. Somebody should put that paper out of it's misery.
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