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RE: Why P6 won't help the AAC
May I point out that tv ratings do not count these channels: CBSSports, NBC Sports, FS2, ESPNnews, ESPNU, BEIN, Cox Sports, Stadium and so forth. We do not really know how big the numbers would be if those channels were counted.
01-05-2018 01:26 PM
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No more p5 memberships out there, so what do we do ?
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(01-05-2018 01:26 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  May I point out that tv ratings do not count these channels: CBSSports, NBC Sports, FS2, ESPNnews, ESPNU, BEIN, Cox Sports, Stadium and so forth. We do not really know how big the numbers would be if those channels were counted.
They're not counted because they're not significant. To add the ratings and viewership for these channels wouldn't change the discussion. At all.
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(01-05-2018 01:52 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  No more p5 memberships out there, so what do we do ?

Currently, I do think you may see some openings once the B12 question is answered in 2024. I do think B12 should have gone after one of the Florida schools and Colorado St or Memphis last year but ESPN and FOX killed that expansion idea.
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The P5 split just needs to happen. This whole thing is a charade and it needs to meet its logical end.
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Just pointing out that the ratings in the OP are Massey, not tv...to clarify any confusion.
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(01-05-2018 05:43 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 01:52 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  No more p5 memberships out there, so what do we do ?

Currently, I do think you may see some openings once the B12 question is answered in 2024. I do think B12 should have gone after one of the Florida schools and Colorado St or Memphis last year but ESPN and FOX killed that expansion idea.

The only big 12 question is gonna be if it continues as is or if it's broken up. If it's broken up, whoever is invited to join, is joining a G6 conference.
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RE: Why P6 won't help the AAC
(01-05-2018 07:45 PM)otown Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 05:43 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 01:52 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  No more p5 memberships out there, so what do we do ?

Currently, I do think you may see some openings once the B12 question is answered in 2024. I do think B12 should have gone after one of the Florida schools and Colorado St or Memphis last year but ESPN and FOX killed that expansion idea.

The only big 12 question is gonna be if it continues as is or if it's broken up. If it's broken up, whoever is invited to join, is joining a G6 conference.

Traditionally I have been of the opinion that since the B12 is legally an autonomy conference any reloading of quality MWC/AAC schools would still make it a P5.

However with the committee in place.....A B12 champion post reconstruction may not be able to crack the Top 10 either. It may not be any better than what the AAC is right now.
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(01-04-2018 11:24 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  The AAC has put on a big marketing campaign around becoming a P6 league thinking that if they could just become a P6 all of their issues surrounding TV revenue and perception can be solved.

The simple fact of the matter is the AAC could get a contract with a bowl for itself in an expanded CFP field and a larger TV deal but that wouldn't move the needle very far with the committee who will continue to trash its scheduled.

The AAC doesn't have a money problem. The problem is it lacks elite football programs which draw 70, 80, 90 thousand or more a game. Their place in college football won't change if they have a contract bowl.

One look at the overall conference ratings from last year shows its a futile climb.

Conference/Avg. Rating
ACC/41.42
SEC/45.60
B1G/45.73
PAC/46.41
B12/48.72
AAC/66.82
MWC/83.97
MAC/84.73
CUSA/91.81
SBC/101.93

https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm

There is 3 points of gap between what is regarded by most as the strongest football conference in the SEC and the B12 which is thought to be the weak man of the P5. The gap between the B12 and AAC is 18 points a 6 times larger gap.

Half of the AAC is a "P" material conference in Cincinnati, UCF, USF, Houston, Memphis, UConn. The other half with Temple, ECU, Navy, Tulane, SMU, Tulane is not "P" material. The recruiting potential of the AAC to catch the P5 in quality simply isn't there.

They need what I said the Big East 2.0 needed after the first ACC raid. They need one school regularly in the top 25 and 2 other schools (not necessarily the same ones) in the top 25 each year. And they need a team each year to be top 15, preferably top 10. The Big East 2.0 did that. Of course, when they ticked off ESPN by turning down an offer better than the ACC deal, ESPN & friends picked them apart.
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So here are the ideas at where we are at.

AAC have strong teams that can beat P5 schools.
UCF
USF
Houston
Memphis
East Carolina
Temple
Navy
CinCinnati

2 have not done so lately like ECU and Cincinnati.

C-USA that beat P5 or play tough games.
UTEP not lately, but they almost upset Oklahoma a few years ago.
UTSA
Southern Miss.
La. Tech
Western Kentucky
Marshall

MWC have these schools.
Hawaii
San Diego State
Fresno State
UNR
Boise State
New Mexico
Air Force
Colorado State
Utah State
Wyoming

MAC have:
Toledo
Western Michigan
Central Michigan
Northern Illinois
Bowling Green

SBC?
SBC is up in the air on that issue. I would say Georgia Southern, Appalachian State and Troy.

UMass. is coming along to coming close beating several P5 schools lately.
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