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RE: MHJ
(01-06-2018 01:25 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 01:18 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 08:47 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 07:58 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Remember watching him run a fast break against Charlotte and thinking "oh my, this kids got the IT" like Bazemore, pure basketball athleticism. Gonna be great fun watching him develop.
He makes things happen. He is an instant energy boost whether he is scoring or not. The fact that JJ does not value that quality is maybe my biggest issue with him.

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What’s MH like in practice?
Don't care. Some players perform better in game situations. Reports are that TH was that type of player. If Wilder took the Jones approach he would have sat until his junior year. Players who are electric sometimes are unable to really shine in the heavily scripted scenarios practice brings. Isn't it really about how you perform in games? He has done well enough in the ones Jones has been generous enough to let him play in to show that he absolutely would not hurt the team playing at least a couple short rotations.

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So if he dogs it everyday, gives minimal effort, etc in practice it doesn’t matter because it’s practice? Your hatred for Jones is at a different level if you think a kid should be AI mode when it comes to practice.


Disclaimer: I do not know how the kid is in practice, just pointing out that we only see one side.
01-06-2018 05:02 AM
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RE: MHJ
(01-06-2018 01:25 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 01:18 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 08:47 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 07:58 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Remember watching him run a fast break against Charlotte and thinking "oh my, this kids got the IT" like Bazemore, pure basketball athleticism. Gonna be great fun watching him develop.
He makes things happen. He is an instant energy boost whether he is scoring or not. The fact that JJ does not value that quality is maybe my biggest issue with him.

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What’s MH like in practice?
Don't care. Some players perform better in game situations. Reports are that TH was that type of player. If Wilder took the Jones approach he would have sat until his junior year. Players who are electric sometimes are unable to really shine in the heavily scripted scenarios practice brings. Isn't it really about how you perform in games? He has done well enough in the ones Jones has been generous enough to let him play in to show that he absolutely would not hurt the team playing at least a couple short rotations.

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This is false. Heinicke killed it from day 1. Players in the first practive were like “who is this dude?”
01-06-2018 10:08 AM
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It is the backup quarterback syndrome. Coaches dont sit good players just because they dont want to play them. He obviously is needing to get better to get in the rotation.
01-06-2018 10:11 AM
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Regarding redshirting:
The landscape has changed drastically in the last couple of years. The graduate transfer option is being pursued by more and more players each year. And it's just not financially viable for mid-majors to take the risk of giving out a free year of scholarship money for certain skill sets. A highly skilled 3-point shooter could be easily swayed to leave as a RS-Sr and land at a high-major school where they are losing guys to the NBA before graduating.

For a guy like Aaron Carver, it makes sense. His skill set and role, combined with his father being an alum means he is not likely to go anywhere as a RS-Sr.
01-06-2018 11:36 AM
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RE: MHJ
(01-06-2018 05:02 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 01:25 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 01:18 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 08:47 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 07:58 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Remember watching him run a fast break against Charlotte and thinking "oh my, this kids got the IT" like Bazemore, pure basketball athleticism. Gonna be great fun watching him develop.
He makes things happen. He is an instant energy boost whether he is scoring or not. The fact that JJ does not value that quality is maybe my biggest issue with him.

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What’s MH like in practice?
Don't care. Some players perform better in game situations. Reports are that TH was that type of player. If Wilder took the Jones approach he would have sat until his junior year. Players who are electric sometimes are unable to really shine in the heavily scripted scenarios practice brings. Isn't it really about how you perform in games? He has done well enough in the ones Jones has been generous enough to let him play in to show that he absolutely would not hurt the team playing at least a couple short rotations.

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So if he dogs it everyday, gives minimal effort, etc in practice it doesn’t matter because it’s practice? Your hatred for Jones is at a different level if you think a kid should be AI mode when it comes to practice.


Disclaimer: I do not know how the kid is in practice, just pointing out that we only see one side.
There is no indication that "dogging it everyday" is the issue. There is no indication that there is an attitude problem. If there were issues like those, I doubt very seriously he would be first off the bench in garbage time everytime. Why are you willing to question a kids character just to defend your buddy, JJ?

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01-06-2018 12:42 PM
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(01-06-2018 12:42 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Why are you willing to question a kids character just to defend your buddy, JJ?

I think this an unfair assessment of the poster's intentions. He wasn't questioning the character of the player, he was simply saying none of us have any idea why Hueitt isn't earning more playing time. None of us have all of the facts. The coaches see these kids every single day at practice. They are making decisions regarding playing time accordingly.

I understand that some fans think MHJ should get more PT. Frankly, I'm probably in that camp. But, to believe Jones is just holding him back arbitrarily is just silly.
01-06-2018 12:50 PM
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Agree. He wasn't attacking the player so much as making a silly, over exaggerated example to make a point.
01-06-2018 12:56 PM
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(01-06-2018 12:50 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 12:42 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Why are you willing to question a kids character just to defend your buddy, JJ?

I think this an unfair assessment of the poster's intentions. He wasn't questioning the character of the player, he was simply saying none of us have any idea why Hueitt isn't earning more playing time. None of us have all of the facts. The coaches see these kids every single day at practice. They are making decisions regarding playing time accordingly.

I understand that some fans think MHJ should get more PT. Frankly, I'm probably in that camp. But, to believe Jones is just holding him back arbitrarily is just silly.
Well, I think my take is much more reasonable since JJ has a history of making players sit early in their careers for reasons nobody else can see. Also, Dave T has basically said MHJ should play more, and he is at practice all the time. I'm tired of the "well, you don't know everything, maybe the player is a piece of ****" argument every time JJ is called out for his crazy decisions on playing time for young/new players.

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01-06-2018 12:59 PM
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(01-05-2018 07:58 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Remember watching him run a fast break against Charlotte and thinking "oh my, this kids got the IT" like Bazemore, pure basketball athleticism. Gonna be great fun watching him develop.

Good point. There aren't many kids that come through and look like they could be electric. We could all be wrong but you can feel the buzz in the crowd when he enters the game.
01-06-2018 01:14 PM
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(01-06-2018 12:59 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  I'm tired of the "well, you don't know everything, maybe the player is a piece of ****" argument every time JJ is called out for his crazy decisions on playing time for young/new players.

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Someone makes a sensible (some would say obvious) point, and this is your retort?

I thought the notion of shutting down opinions with which you disagree was a problem for you guys on the anti-Jones crusade.
01-06-2018 01:34 PM
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