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I listened to last night's game and didn't watch it so i'm not sure what type of zone Rice played. However, if there was ever a game where it would seem that MHJ's shooting skill could be utilized it would be in a game where the opposing team stays in a zone the entire game. If he doesn't see time in a game like that i'm not sure there will be another ideal opportunity barring blowouts.
01-05-2018 01:27 PM
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I am in the camp of wishing we could see more of Hueitt ( and Godwin) on the floor. However realistically speaking I will be surprised to see much more of Hueitt ( or Godwin) on the floor this season barring an injury to a starter. Even with an injury like Green against Norfolk State we only saw one rotation for a couple of minutes for Hueitt in the first half.

Some are rationlizing that Hueitt will see more time as we get into the conference schedule and I hope they are correct but history does not point to that possibly happening.

Look at last season with Kah. He started the season benched because he didn't have a passport to go to the Bahamas. We saw some glimpses of what he could do at the end of some games and and we got excited that he could help. But that didn't happen.

JJ is going to sink or swim with his veterans and we do have a solid group of them. I think everyone is pulling for JJ to put Hueitt in the game for a couple of meaningful rotations a game ( if just for a couple of minutes) but he has had opportunities to in several games and chose not to. At the Charlotte game I heard fans from several different locations hollering for Jones to insert Hueitt but it didn't happen until about the 4 minute mark. Some could argue our record may not be 11-3 if Hueitt had played more but who knows. The W&M loss could have swung either way and the VCU loss has been chalked up to the team being gassed ( which a couple of players have admitted to). Maybe buying a few minutes for our starters could have avoided both those losses.

But be that as it may, the future looks bright with Hueitt and Godwin giving us some long range artist that we have badly needed. I'll continue to hope to see at least Hueitt inserted for some meaningful minutes in the future but again am not expecting it.

As someone in another post wrote, you can't have depth without playing depth. At this point we are not a deep team and that's what bothers me the most about this years addition. I have a lot of confidence in our first 7 players but it sure would be nice to know we could go 8 deep in each game. Guess I have said enough for one post. I'll end with a congrats to our Monarchs on a solid start to the season. Let's keep it going!!!!
01-05-2018 01:57 PM
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Nice post JJ, and I am the one that posted the comment about needing to play depth in order to create depth. I was paraphrasing Blaine's thoughts there about depth. He was always trying to prepare his teams for the CAA Tournament and more than once stated that he felt like a team needed depth to make it to the end successfully.

Right now ODU has enough players. I'm just not sold on them having depth that they can count on in an emergency situation though since they have such a tight rotation. If it ever came down to that then someone will be thrown into the fire so to speak and we shall see how they handle it then. It will be like I have mentioned a time or two recently ... Necessity is the mother of invention.
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I think it will come, hopefully this year. The thing very few freshman play for JJ. He has a system on defense and likes that players can go in and the defense is still there. He coaches as much on defense as offense. He also let's players play thru a slump, where they need to work it out. Knowing that he will still get the defense he expects. While he's hard on players, he does trust them to do their job.
01-05-2018 02:25 PM
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To me, Godwin looked a bit like dear in headlights when he got in. He has a huge upside though. So I can understand him needing some time.

MHJ does not have that and doesn't look uncomfortable at all. But I wonder if JJ is just waiting to see something in practice we're not seeing. I have to defer to that expertise and hope he knows what he's doing.
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MHJ and MG should have got more playing time against Rice but the starters decided to struggle with an inferior team.
01-05-2018 02:37 PM
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(01-05-2018 02:37 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  MHJ and MG should have got more playing time against Rice but the starters decided to struggle with an inferior team.

To me there is a big difference between getting playing time and getting quality playing time. It's all well and good for these guys to get mop up time at the end of blowouts but i don't know how much they develop when it's our end of the bench against the opposing teams end of the bench. I would love to see them get at least one rotation per half with the primary group to develop a feel for a real game flow.

I don't think there are enough minutes at this time for both to find time. In hind sight it would have been great to have one of them pick up some time this year and the other red shirt. Oh well, that ship has sailed.
01-05-2018 02:58 PM
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(01-05-2018 02:58 PM)ODU804 Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 02:37 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  MHJ and MG should have got more playing time against Rice but the starters decided to struggle with an inferior team.

To me there is a big difference between getting playing time and getting quality playing time. It's all well and good for these guys to get mop up time at the end of blowouts but i don't know how much they develop when it's our end of the bench against the opposing teams end of the bench. I would love to see them get at least one rotation per half with the primary group to develop a feel for a real game flow.

I don't think there are enough minutes at this time for both to find time. In hind sight it would have been great to have one of them pick up some time this year and the other red shirt. Oh well, that ship has sailed.

Mop up time is better than not playing at all, which is what happened against Rice
01-05-2018 03:01 PM
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(01-05-2018 02:58 PM)ODU804 Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 02:37 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  MHJ and MG should have got more playing time against Rice but the starters decided to struggle with an inferior team.

To me there is a big difference between getting playing time and getting quality playing time. It's all well and good for these guys to get mop up time at the end of blowouts but i don't know how much they develop when it's our end of the bench against the opposing teams end of the bench. I would love to see them get at least one rotation per half with the primary group to develop a feel for a real game flow.

I don't think there are enough minutes at this time for both to find time. In hind sight it would have been great to have one of them pick up some time this year and the other red shirt. Oh well, that ship has sailed.

One thing we really don't know about the redshirt idea is what the players themselves thought of it. In the end it's the players decision. As far as we know Jones could have asked them to redshirt and they said no. It's happened before so I don't think it's totally fair to say Jones should have redshirted without knowing what the conversation was between player and coach.
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Hueitt got meaningful minutes vs. Temple and performed.
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