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RE: Oklahoma to new conference. preferred partner
(01-03-2018 08:06 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  If the B1G came calling for Oklahoma don't you think OU would accept B1G without a partner?

Taking a cue from the GT to B1G thread we have currently operating, the B1G doesn't necessarily need adjacent universities.

B1G could grab OU the second they are available and scoop up UConn since they aren't tied to the ACC grant of rights.

If the choice is between Kansas and UConn I'm thinking UConn as the upside school.


The question is if the BIG 10 wants UConn. (small market) or get UMass. (Gillette Stadium, Boston market, similar rankings in academics as UConn.)
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(01-03-2018 08:34 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(01-03-2018 08:06 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  If the B1G came calling for Oklahoma don't you think OU would accept B1G without a partner?

Taking a cue from the GT to B1G thread we have currently operating, the B1G doesn't necessarily need adjacent universities.

B1G could grab OU the second they are available and scoop up UConn since they aren't tied to the ACC grant of rights.

If the choice is between Kansas and UConn I'm thinking UConn as the upside school.


The question is if the BIG 10 wants UConn. (small market) or get UMass. (Gillette Stadium, Boston market, similar rankings in academics as UConn.)

If you are UConn is small market by virtue of located in Storrs while UMass is big market by located in Amherst then you don't have much of an argument.

UConn is closely tied into the Hartford metro area. In fact the home football stadium is located there. UMass plays on campus in a 17,000 seat stadium. UMass has very little athletic tradition though it plays in good basketball conference.

UConn has issues in football but so does Rutgers, Maryland, Indiana, Purdue. P5 level facilities but limitations in recruiting base.

UMass has issues that are like Kent St, NMSU, San Jose St ect. Programs with huge limitations that max out with a winning season.
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People here are seriously underestimating Kansas. The Big Ten would take an OU/KU combo in a heartbeat. The only schools bogging those two down with respect to the Big Ten are political pressures (whether real or perceived) to need to take Oklahoma State and Kansas State. Rest assured, if the Big Ten could take OU and KU without their little brothers, it would happen. It’s just that I also think people underestimate the “little brother” state political card here (which is another factor keeping the Big 12 together beyond the Texas need for control).
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Frank: thanks for confirming what i suspected!
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(01-04-2018 12:02 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  People here are seriously underestimating Kansas. The Big Ten would take an OU/KU combo in a heartbeat. The only schools bogging those two down with respect to the Big Ten are political pressures (whether real or perceived) to need to take Oklahoma State and Kansas State. Rest assured, if the Big Ten could take OU and KU without their little brothers, it would happen. It’s just that I also think people underestimate the “little brother” state political card here (which is another factor keeping the Big 12 together beyond the Texas need for control).


I laugh at those that think Texas is the Bully - OU is a willing and active partner
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Tex finshed #2 in revenue, Okla finshed #10.
Why would they even be looking to leave.
A bussiness would be looking to expaned on thier base to increase revenue
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(01-03-2018 05:40 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  If/when OU moves to another conference, is this a fair characterization of preference for their partner

Fans/boosters/new conference: UT
The Oklahoma state legislature: OSU

Everything will boil down to the old saying.....

"Money talks, bull-it walks".

IF OU is indeed looking to move in a few years, it will all revolve around who makes them the best financial offer. That's why I dismiss the PAC talk, while they might need them the most, they don't have the financial backing (TV contract or network) to compete with an offer from the SEC or B1G.

OU isn't going to make a move unless there's a benefit for them, namely financial. There are the haves and have nots, blue blood programs like OU can't afford to become one of the have nots.

While TX is the proverbial whale, they also have baggage. It will be interesting to see if TX is willing to shed some baggage and have a piece of humble pie if they decide moving is their best option. I think Frank was right, if both OU and KU wanted to come to the B1G, they'd take them in a heartbeat. I think the SEC would do the same.
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(01-04-2018 12:02 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  People here are seriously underestimating Kansas. The Big Ten would take an OU/KU combo in a heartbeat. The only schools bogging those two down with respect to the Big Ten are political pressures (whether real or perceived) to need to take Oklahoma State and Kansas State. Rest assured, if the Big Ten could take OU and KU without their little brothers, it would happen. It’s just that I also think people underestimate the “little brother” state political card here (which is another factor keeping the Big 12 together beyond the Texas need for control).

Well said. I agree with you 100%. And the Big 10 or SEC are the conferences OK and KS want. I do not believe either teams fan want to have thier games played in Pacific Standard Time Zone. 07-coffee3
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B-10 & SEC are conf network driven
Va & NC are only schools that help them
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My guess would be OU would only go to the sec with OK state but would join the big 10 with KU. Of course, since Texas is the real prize how they figure into moves is the mystery. Hard to see the sec not counter with OU and OK state combo to prevent OU joining the big 10. The sec having UGA beat OU which prevented the OU-Alabama game in Atlanta probably set back the sec efforts to land OU since the OU bigwigs would have liked that atmosphere. I still think the pac 12 jumping to 18 or 20 with big 12 schools is the best move for everyone, given the geography 16 doesn’t really work for the pac 12 if it adds big 12 schools
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