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RE: Maisel: B1G took Rutgers after Georgia Tech (?!?!) turned them down
(01-03-2018 11:11 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: (01-03-2018 08:18 PM)JRsec Wrote: (01-03-2018 06:41 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote: (01-03-2018 06:30 PM)JRsec Wrote: (01-03-2018 06:21 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote: So, let's say this did happen, along with a Texoma 4 to Pac situation. The Big Ten picks up Nebraska, as well as UMD, UVA, UNC, and GT. The SEC takes NCSU and VT along with Missouri and A&M. The remnant Big 12 takes in most of the remaining ACC schools and Big East football schools to become the Big 16.
Big 16
East: Boston College, Connecticut, Rutgers, Syracuse
North: Cincinnati, Louisville, Pittsburgh, West Virginia
South: Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Miami-FL
West: Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State
Big Ten
East: Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State
North: Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue
South: Georgia Tech, Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia
West: Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin
Pac-16
East: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech
North: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State
South: Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah
West: California, Stanford, UCLA, USC
SEC
East: Florida, Georgia, NC State, South Carolina
North: Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech
South: Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi State, Ole Miss
West: Arkansas, LSU, Missouri, Texas A&M
Wake Forest and USF are left out, and TCU never gets a chance. Notre Dame remains independent, just how they like it.
No, the SEC would have taken Duke and North Carolina, Texas A&M and probably Missouri although in that mess we may have opted for Virginia Tech instead of Missouri.
Nebraska made #12 in the Big 10. So Maryland, Virginia, probably N.C. State, and Georgia Tech would have been more likely for their 16.
Had they considered F.S.U. we would probably have taken both Clemson and F.S.U. to halt their advance in Atlanta unless they wanted Miami and Syracuse too.
I didn't think UNC would go for the SEC. Do you mean they wouldn't go anywhere without Duke? And that the Big Ten wouldn't take UNC if it meant they also had to take Duke?
I'm skeptical about the Big Ten's desire for NCSU, FSU, or Miami. If they get NU, UMD, UVA, and GT but not UNC, spot #16 comes down to ND (if they want it) or Rutgers. Of course, ND is more preferable than any of the other potential adds, but they'd only join if their backs were to the wall.
You keep counting Nebraska. Don't, as they were the Big 10's 12th school. And what I'm telling you is that North Carolina had contacted Birmingham in 2010-1 when this all broke to make sure that we would have a spot for Duke as well if the worst happened and the ACC broke up. We reportedly said yes. My point is that they weren't headed to the Big 10, didn't want to leave the ACC, and were just checking on a safety net.
I think all power leagues would have a spot for Duke with or without UNC. While realignment is generally football-focused, Duke is THE most elite of the elite basketball programs plus the top academic FBS school besides Stanford. Duke is the exact type of school that university presidents salivate over (and to be clear, I personally hate Duke with all of my might).
I know that's right Frank. I have no doubt but what the Big 10 would have offered both if they had been willing. It will be interesting to see what N.D. chooses to do about their scheduling and to see how much pressure they may be feeling over access to the CFP. The way I see it they have some deep thinking to do before moving forward. The scheduling model that saw them through the 80's and 90's isn't going to optimize their opportunities moving forward.
I mention that because it is probably the only blip left on the ACC radar that could cause waves, not major ones, but ripples. With N.D. all in and their network they might well hit a sweet spot on revenue, not quite SEC / B1G levels but close enough.
The Big 12? Maybe that's another matter. The PAC? They are in their own world so maybe the gap doesn't matter as much to them as the media likes to report.
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