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RE: CFP selection committee defends leaving out undefeated UCF
(01-03-2018 07:26 PM)leofrog Wrote:  
(01-03-2018 06:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  lol...when the CFP collaspes early---which it will--it will be because they stood like buffoons saying "we stand by our decisions" when its obvious to anyone capable of fogging a mirror they were wrong, biased, pig headed, and arrogant. Hancock would have been much better served to acknowledge the mistake with something like---"We probably did under rank the top G5 these last few years and we need to reassess how we look at the top G5 options". Hancock is truly a complete moron. He always has been.

Before Monday, I didn't hear too much about UCF being "robbed" out of a playoff spot. If Danny White was so confident, he should have been saying this stuff to the nation starting on selection day. But now that they won, he is acting like he knew this all along.

Too be fair--he did. He has said for quite some time that he felt UCF was being under rated and was not getting proper respect from the committee. Aresco has said much the same on multiple occasions during November and December.
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RE: CFP selection committee defends leaving out undefeated UCF
UCF should pimp their school and the AAC should pimp schools in their conference. That is to be expected.

How many conferences and schools outside that circle are echoing the same rhetoric on behalf of UCF?
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RE: CFP selection committee defends leaving out undefeated UCF
(01-03-2018 09:26 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-03-2018 07:33 PM)UCFBS Wrote:  Here's the 1-2 reality ...

1) No UCF fan believes UCF should have been top 4 pre-bowl, but #12 was a direct insult

2) UCF President Dr. Hitt agreed to the "National Championship" as a direct result of the CFP's post-Peach Bowl comments "re-justifying" UCF's #12 ranking

Most UCF fans thought #6-9 pre-Peach. Even BCS had UCF #7 -- #3 for computer, #10 in AP. Putting UCF #18, then #14, and even considering a 4 loss team head of UCF at #12, before they finally put UCF #12, was exactly what Scott Frost meant by, "They didn't want to rank UCF too high, in case more losses came."

Although UCF AD Danny White jokingly mouthed the "National Championship" claim on TV, it was UCF's President Dr. Hitt that caused this to really go forward. Dr. Hitt, after hearing the CFP head honcho directly say UCF deserved its #12 ranking, and should basically be thankful they got the Peach Bowl, further insinuating UCF wouldn't even make a 8 team playoff, was beyond pissed off.

Dr. Hitt is a soft-spoken and very witty man. He does do things lightly. You really have to piss him off before he'll go off on you to make a point. And now he is ...

Everyone at UCF is ... and UCF is big, really, really freak'n big, and only growing in the nation's 3rd most populous state. UCF may be 100,000+ students projected by 2030, with thousands of acres set aside that wraps from the east side and down towards Lake Nona and the airport.

"The University of Central Florida, or UCF, is an American public state university in Orlando, Florida. It is the largest university in the United States by undergraduate enrollment,[8] as well as the largest by enrollment at a single campus.[3]"

Yup. The CFP played this completely wrong. Should have just admitted they blew it and "promised" to reassess the way they judge G5's (in other words, do nothing different going forward). Instead--they brainlessly insisted they were right---when everyone in the audience knows they were not. Now they have just exposed themselves to be the arrogant buffoons they are really are and they are rightfully getting called out for it. I guess they just couldnt hide their true nature.

It's amazing that UCF fans think that because UCF beat a 3-loss Auburn team that this means the committee really did blow it and they deserved a spot in the top 4, the playoffs.

Then, many of these same UCF fans make another Snake River Canyon leap and say that because UCF deserved to be in the playoffs but wasn't invited this means that beating this same 3-loss Auburn team, a team absolutely nobody thought belonged in the playoffs, means that they not only deserved to be in the playoffs but are in fact National Champions, even though they did not win the two playoff games against top-4 teams that would be needed to claim that!

It's the most bizarro sequence of logic ever posted to this board.

I mean, imagine if in the NFC divisional playoffs, the Rams are playing the Eagles, and on the last play of the game a critical call goes against the Rams and as a result the Eagles win the game. The NFL then issues a statement saying yes, the call was wrong and the Rams should have won the game, but the game results are final and so the Eagles still advance to the NFC title game not the Rams.

Would it be reasonable for Rams fans to say "we should have been in the NFC title game but were robbed of it, therefore we are declaring ourselves Super Bowl Champions!" even though they didn't actually play and win either the NFC title game or Super Bowl?

It would beggar belief. But that's what we have going on here from some people.

Heck, we actually have an NFL precedent for that: Millions of Raiders fans will forever believe that the Tuck Rule call robbed them of a victory over New England in the 2001 divisional playoffs. But while I've heard hundreds of them say over the years that this means the Raiders, not the Patriots, should have advanced to the AFC title game, I've never heard a single one claim that this means the Raiders actually deserve to be called the Super Bowl Champions for that year.

Because even dumb Raiders fans know that well, even if they had advanced to the AFC title game like they think they should have, that by no means guarantees they would have actually won the AFC title game, and then the Super Bowl.
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RE: CFP selection committee defends leaving out undefeated UCF
(01-03-2018 10:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-03-2018 09:26 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-03-2018 07:33 PM)UCFBS Wrote:  Here's the 1-2 reality ...

1) No UCF fan believes UCF should have been top 4 pre-bowl, but #12 was a direct insult

2) UCF President Dr. Hitt agreed to the "National Championship" as a direct result of the CFP's post-Peach Bowl comments "re-justifying" UCF's #12 ranking

Most UCF fans thought #6-9 pre-Peach. Even BCS had UCF #7 -- #3 for computer, #10 in AP. Putting UCF #18, then #14, and even considering a 4 loss team head of UCF at #12, before they finally put UCF #12, was exactly what Scott Frost meant by, "They didn't want to rank UCF too high, in case more losses came."

Although UCF AD Danny White jokingly mouthed the "National Championship" claim on TV, it was UCF's President Dr. Hitt that caused this to really go forward. Dr. Hitt, after hearing the CFP head honcho directly say UCF deserved its #12 ranking, and should basically be thankful they got the Peach Bowl, further insinuating UCF wouldn't even make a 8 team playoff, was beyond pissed off.

Dr. Hitt is a soft-spoken and very witty man. He does do things lightly. You really have to piss him off before he'll go off on you to make a point. And now he is ...

Everyone at UCF is ... and UCF is big, really, really freak'n big, and only growing in the nation's 3rd most populous state. UCF may be 100,000+ students projected by 2030, with thousands of acres set aside that wraps from the east side and down towards Lake Nona and the airport.

"The University of Central Florida, or UCF, is an American public state university in Orlando, Florida. It is the largest university in the United States by undergraduate enrollment,[8] as well as the largest by enrollment at a single campus.[3]"

Yup. The CFP played this completely wrong. Should have just admitted they blew it and "promised" to reassess the way they judge G5's (in other words, do nothing different going forward). Instead--they brainlessly insisted they were right---when everyone in the audience knows they were not. Now they have just exposed themselves to be the arrogant buffoons they are really are and they are rightfully getting called out for it. I guess they just couldnt hide their true nature.

It's amazing that UCF fans think that because UCF beat a 3-loss Auburn team that this means the committee really did blow it and they deserved a spot in the top 4, the playoffs.

Then, many of these same UCF fans make another Snake River Canyon leap and say that because UCF deserved to be in the playoffs but wasn't invited this means that beating this same 3-loss Auburn team, a team absolutely nobody thought belonged in the playoffs, means that they not only deserved to be in the playoffs but are in fact National Champions, even though they did not win the two playoff games against top-4 teams that would be needed to claim that!

It's the most bizarro sequence of logic ever posted to this board.

I mean, imagine if in the NFC divisional playoffs, the Rams are playing the Eagles, and on the last play of the game a critical call goes against the Rams and as a result the Eagles win the game. The NFL then issues a statement saying yes, the call was wrong and the Rams should have won the game, but the game results are final and so the Eagles still advance to the NFC title game not the Rams.

Would it be reasonable for Rams fans to say "we should have been in the NFC title game but were robbed of it, therefore we are declaring ourselves Super Bowl Champions!" even though they didn't actually play and win either the NFC title game or Super Bowl?

It would beggar belief. But that's what we have going on here from some people.

That is the dumbest post I have ever read, not surprised you were the one that wrote it
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(01-03-2018 05:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Should have stuck with the BCS huh?

Truthfully the both suck.

But a very limited 4 team playoff for a "NATIONAL CHAMPION" seems way to narrow a scenario to determine one.
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(01-03-2018 11:04 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(01-03-2018 10:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-03-2018 09:26 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-03-2018 07:33 PM)UCFBS Wrote:  Here's the 1-2 reality ...

1) No UCF fan believes UCF should have been top 4 pre-bowl, but #12 was a direct insult

2) UCF President Dr. Hitt agreed to the "National Championship" as a direct result of the CFP's post-Peach Bowl comments "re-justifying" UCF's #12 ranking

Most UCF fans thought #6-9 pre-Peach. Even BCS had UCF #7 -- #3 for computer, #10 in AP. Putting UCF #18, then #14, and even considering a 4 loss team head of UCF at #12, before they finally put UCF #12, was exactly what Scott Frost meant by, "They didn't want to rank UCF too high, in case more losses came."

Although UCF AD Danny White jokingly mouthed the "National Championship" claim on TV, it was UCF's President Dr. Hitt that caused this to really go forward. Dr. Hitt, after hearing the CFP head honcho directly say UCF deserved its #12 ranking, and should basically be thankful they got the Peach Bowl, further insinuating UCF wouldn't even make a 8 team playoff, was beyond pissed off.

Dr. Hitt is a soft-spoken and very witty man. He does do things lightly. You really have to piss him off before he'll go off on you to make a point. And now he is ...

Everyone at UCF is ... and UCF is big, really, really freak'n big, and only growing in the nation's 3rd most populous state. UCF may be 100,000+ students projected by 2030, with thousands of acres set aside that wraps from the east side and down towards Lake Nona and the airport.

"The University of Central Florida, or UCF, is an American public state university in Orlando, Florida. It is the largest university in the United States by undergraduate enrollment,[8] as well as the largest by enrollment at a single campus.[3]"

Yup. The CFP played this completely wrong. Should have just admitted they blew it and "promised" to reassess the way they judge G5's (in other words, do nothing different going forward). Instead--they brainlessly insisted they were right---when everyone in the audience knows they were not. Now they have just exposed themselves to be the arrogant buffoons they are really are and they are rightfully getting called out for it. I guess they just couldnt hide their true nature.

It's amazing that UCF fans think that because UCF beat a 3-loss Auburn team that this means the committee really did blow it and they deserved a spot in the top 4, the playoffs.

Then, many of these same UCF fans make another Snake River Canyon leap and say that because UCF deserved to be in the playoffs but wasn't invited this means that beating this same 3-loss Auburn team, a team absolutely nobody thought belonged in the playoffs, means that they not only deserved to be in the playoffs but are in fact National Champions, even though they did not win the two playoff games against top-4 teams that would be needed to claim that!

It's the most bizarro sequence of logic ever posted to this board.

I mean, imagine if in the NFC divisional playoffs, the Rams are playing the Eagles, and on the last play of the game a critical call goes against the Rams and as a result the Eagles win the game. The NFL then issues a statement saying yes, the call was wrong and the Rams should have won the game, but the game results are final and so the Eagles still advance to the NFC title game not the Rams.

Would it be reasonable for Rams fans to say "we should have been in the NFC title game but were robbed of it, therefore we are declaring ourselves Super Bowl Champions!" even though they didn't actually play and win either the NFC title game or Super Bowl?

It would beggar belief. But that's what we have going on here from some people.

That is the dumbest post I have ever read, not surprised you were the one that wrote it

Actually, it renders silly the arguments of the UCF fans around here claiming a "national championship", but because you are too dumb or biased to recognize that, and either way have no substantive answer for it, you decided to post this nonsense instead. 07-coffee3
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@EvilV: Is it dumb because you didn't understand the analogy?

Cuz it actually makes a lot of sense.
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(01-03-2018 11:08 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-03-2018 11:04 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(01-03-2018 10:57 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-03-2018 09:26 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(01-03-2018 07:33 PM)UCFBS Wrote:  Here's the 1-2 reality ...

1) No UCF fan believes UCF should have been top 4 pre-bowl, but #12 was a direct insult

2) UCF President Dr. Hitt agreed to the "National Championship" as a direct result of the CFP's post-Peach Bowl comments "re-justifying" UCF's #12 ranking

Most UCF fans thought #6-9 pre-Peach. Even BCS had UCF #7 -- #3 for computer, #10 in AP. Putting UCF #18, then #14, and even considering a 4 loss team head of UCF at #12, before they finally put UCF #12, was exactly what Scott Frost meant by, "They didn't want to rank UCF too high, in case more losses came."

Although UCF AD Danny White jokingly mouthed the "National Championship" claim on TV, it was UCF's President Dr. Hitt that caused this to really go forward. Dr. Hitt, after hearing the CFP head honcho directly say UCF deserved its #12 ranking, and should basically be thankful they got the Peach Bowl, further insinuating UCF wouldn't even make a 8 team playoff, was beyond pissed off.

Dr. Hitt is a soft-spoken and very witty man. He does do things lightly. You really have to piss him off before he'll go off on you to make a point. And now he is ...

Everyone at UCF is ... and UCF is big, really, really freak'n big, and only growing in the nation's 3rd most populous state. UCF may be 100,000+ students projected by 2030, with thousands of acres set aside that wraps from the east side and down towards Lake Nona and the airport.

"The University of Central Florida, or UCF, is an American public state university in Orlando, Florida. It is the largest university in the United States by undergraduate enrollment,[8] as well as the largest by enrollment at a single campus.[3]"

Yup. The CFP played this completely wrong. Should have just admitted they blew it and "promised" to reassess the way they judge G5's (in other words, do nothing different going forward). Instead--they brainlessly insisted they were right---when everyone in the audience knows they were not. Now they have just exposed themselves to be the arrogant buffoons they are really are and they are rightfully getting called out for it. I guess they just couldnt hide their true nature.

It's amazing that UCF fans think that because UCF beat a 3-loss Auburn team that this means the committee really did blow it and they deserved a spot in the top 4, the playoffs.

Then, many of these same UCF fans make another Snake River Canyon leap and say that because UCF deserved to be in the playoffs but wasn't invited this means that beating this same 3-loss Auburn team, a team absolutely nobody thought belonged in the playoffs, means that they not only deserved to be in the playoffs but are in fact National Champions, even though they did not win the two playoff games against top-4 teams that would be needed to claim that!

It's the most bizarro sequence of logic ever posted to this board.

I mean, imagine if in the NFC divisional playoffs, the Rams are playing the Eagles, and on the last play of the game a critical call goes against the Rams and as a result the Eagles win the game. The NFL then issues a statement saying yes, the call was wrong and the Rams should have won the game, but the game results are final and so the Eagles still advance to the NFC title game not the Rams.

Would it be reasonable for Rams fans to say "we should have been in the NFC title game but were robbed of it, therefore we are declaring ourselves Super Bowl Champions!" even though they didn't actually play and win either the NFC title game or Super Bowl?

It would beggar belief. But that's what we have going on here from some people.

That is the dumbest post I have ever read, not surprised you were the one that wrote it

Actually, it totally destroys the arguments of the UCF fans around here claiming a "national championship", but because you are too dumb or biased to recognize that, and either way have no substantive answer for it, you decided to post this nonsense instead. 07-coffee3

Hey just imagine, if instead of UCF getting left out, its the Rams and Eagles...03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao
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This is all very simple.

The more objective they make the qualification criteria the better. The problem lies in the subjectivity. Unfortunately, the sheer size of the field dictates that you cannot eliminate all subjectivity, but you have to eliminate it as much as possible.

Unless you do that, it doesn’t matter how big you make the field, there will always be problems.
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I don’t think UCF should have been in this particular playoff (nothing against UCF, but in this 4-team playoff system, they simply shouldn’t have gotten in), while I also think the CFP committee can be wrong and there should be a larger playoff that can include a G5 team like UCF. These aren’t mutually exclusive thoughts.
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