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RE: Kent State @ Northern Illinois
I really don’t think the problem is shot selection, it’s that we don’t have good shooters. What are we going to do, not shoot? Who is it that should be shooting ? We just have no one making open shots.
01-02-2018 09:53 PM
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It's like the first time they got a two possession lead everyone started playing hero ball and suddenly we're getting blown out. It's the Albany game all over again only a worse opponent. An absurd amount of offensive rebounds given up too. Pretty much nothing good to say about anything we've done tonight.
01-02-2018 09:55 PM
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Absolute embarrassment! Can't shoot, can't rebound, can't win.

Started off rebounding well and going inside but then went soft on the glass and every shot came from the perimeter or on a difficult drive to the basket. Post players didn't work hard to get open thus we had no inside game.

My main complaint of this coaching staff has been that they don't seem to "control their players"...Teach them their roles coaches and demand they stay within that role!

Pitiful...
01-02-2018 10:02 PM
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RE: Kent State @ Northern Illinois
(01-02-2018 09:53 PM)axeme Wrote:  I really don’t think the problem is shot selection, it’s that we don’t have good shooters. What are we going to do, not shoot? Who is it that should be shooting ? We just have no one making open shots.

You don't think shot selection is the problem? Are we watching the same games? How many times does Walker get a three without a hand in his face? How many times does he hold the ball for a few seconds without moving then shoot it? When was the last time you saw what appeared to be a play run that got a shooter open? When was the last time you saw a Kent player make an escape dribble before shooting? We think we're a three point shooting team but we don't create good looks... but we shoot them anyways.
01-02-2018 10:03 PM
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(01-02-2018 10:03 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(01-02-2018 09:53 PM)axeme Wrote:  I really don’t think the problem is shot selection, it’s that we don’t have good shooters. What are we going to do, not shoot? Who is it that should be shooting ? We just have no one making open shots.

You don't think shot selection is the problem? Are we watching the same games? How many times does Walker get a three without a hand in his face? How many times does he hold the ball for a few seconds without moving then shoot it? When was the last time you saw what appeared to be a play run that got a shooter open? When was the last time you saw a Kent player make an escape dribble before shooting? We think we're a three point shooting team but we don't create good looks... but we shoot them anyways.

One other comment in regards to "What are we going to do, not shoot?" YES! Coming into tonight our three point percentage is the second worst we've had in the last 16 years. But we're still attempting a three on 25.9% of our possessions which is the 4th highest volume in the last 16 years. So yes, get better shots, or shoot less threes.

And for what it's worth, after tonight we now have the worst 3 point % we've had in the last 16 years.
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01-02-2018 10:08 PM
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Woohoo! NIU MAC Champions baby!

You think the MACC isn't drawing enough people now, well I sure as hell am not going anymore. Not an hour and fifteen minute drive each way. Not to watch this. What a waste of $1060 for season seats this year. Well, maybe the Oregon State win was worth $1060?

I've got some chairbacks in section A if anybody is interested.

Thank God for ESPN 3.
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01-02-2018 10:11 PM
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RE: Kent State @ Northern Illinois
(01-02-2018 10:08 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(01-02-2018 10:03 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(01-02-2018 09:53 PM)axeme Wrote:  I really don’t think the problem is shot selection, it’s that we don’t have good shooters. What are we going to do, not shoot? Who is it that should be shooting ? We just have no one making open shots.

You don't think shot selection is the problem? Are we watching the same games? How many times does Walker get a three without a hand in his face? How many times does he hold the ball for a few seconds without moving then shoot it? When was the last time you saw what appeared to be a play run that got a shooter open? When was the last time you saw a Kent player make an escape dribble before shooting? We think we're a three point shooting team but we don't create good looks... but we shoot them anyways.



One other comment in regards to "What are we going to do, not shoot?" YES! Coming into tonight our three point percentage is the second worst we've had in the last 16 years. But we're still attempting a three on 25.9% of our possessions which is the 4th highest volume in the last 16 years. So yes, get better shots, or shoot less threes.

And for what it's worth, after tonight we now have the worst 3 point % we've had in the last 16 years.

Thanks for pointing out these stats. Startling, to say the least! 88.5% for NIU from the line tonight (23-26), and they're barely 70% for the season!
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01-02-2018 10:19 PM
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After watching this debacle, I am reluctant to just lay out the criticism, but instead I would like to propose a question. Does anyone see anything that could give us a glimmer of hope for the season? Go a little deeper. Does anyone see something that can give us hope for the next year or two? Please lift me from my depression.
01-02-2018 10:21 PM
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(01-02-2018 09:53 PM)axeme Wrote:  I really don’t think the problem is shot selection, it’s that we don’t have good shooters. What are we going to do, not shoot? Who is it that should be shooting ? We just have no one making open shots.

Some of the 3's taken were wide open ones but many were forced (particularly from Walker).

We have the biggest front line in the MAC (or darn near it) starting a 7' center and a 6'9" forward (6'9" and 6'7" reserves to follow too) but we don't get inside shots very often. Makes no sense. Gotta play to your strengths.

To me "shot selection" is not only taking an open jumper (vs. a forced one) but also having "balance" in shot selection...having both an inside and an outside game. Common sense says you'll make more 6 foot shots than 20 foot shots but this team (and coaching staff) don't seem to understand this.

Last point...Rob continually refers to Walker as a "volume shooter". Hell, anybody can do that. I want a "volume scorer!"
01-02-2018 10:28 PM
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RE: Kent State @ Northern Illinois
WHOA WHOA WHOA. Does Dannyb need to remind everyone AGAIN that this team and coach was only down 3 to UCLA halfway thru the 2nd half of the tourney last year before being blown out by 17!?!? I mean, all they did was lose to NIU by 14. But it was a one point game at the half!!! You guys should be ashamed for not settling for this!!!
01-02-2018 10:34 PM
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