(01-01-2018 01:53 PM)Dylan Wrote:  We are currently 185 in KenPom with the worst recruiting class in the AAC. I don’t think you are truly open to the fact that we are worse off than we have been in almost 40 years.

Your question was what's better about this. I answered you. What's better about this is that this guy has actually improved the last two lackluster programs he took over. The other one drove a once thriving program into the ground. That's the difference. One scenario not likely, the other no way in hades. Not much of a difference, as I said, but still a difference. And if you didn't want an answer, why did you ask?

(01-01-2018 04:11 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 01:53 PM)Dylan Wrote:  We are currently 185 in KenPom with the worst recruiting class in the AAC. I don’t think you are truly open to the fact that we are worse off than we have been in almost 40 years.

Your question was what's better about this. I answered you. What's better about this is that this guy has actually improved the last two lackluster programs he took over. The other one drove a once thriving program into the ground. That's the difference. One scenario not likely, the other no way in hades. Not much of a difference, as I said, but still a difference. And if you didn't want an answer, why did you ask?

He hasn’t improved THIS one, and has not shown any evidence whatsoever that he will.

And if he improved Minnesota so much, why did they fire him?

(01-01-2018 04:40 PM)Dylan Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:11 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 01:53 PM)Dylan Wrote:  We are currently 185 in KenPom with the worst recruiting class in the AAC. I don’t think you are truly open to the fact that we are worse off than we have been in almost 40 years.

Your question was what's better about this. I answered you. What's better about this is that this guy has actually improved the last two lackluster programs he took over. The other one drove a once thriving program into the ground. That's the difference. One scenario not likely, the other no way in hades. Not much of a difference, as I said, but still a difference. And if you didn't want an answer, why did you ask?

He hasn’t improved THIS one, and has not shown any evidence whatsoever that he will.

And if he improved Minnesota so much, why did they fire him?

Are you still whining? Has it accomplished anything?

(01-01-2018 04:42 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:40 PM)Dylan Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:11 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 01:53 PM)Dylan Wrote:  We are currently 185 in KenPom with the worst recruiting class in the AAC. I don’t think you are truly open to the fact that we are worse off than we have been in almost 40 years.

Your question was what's better about this. I answered you. What's better about this is that this guy has actually improved the last two lackluster programs he took over. The other one drove a once thriving program into the ground. That's the difference. One scenario not likely, the other no way in hades. Not much of a difference, as I said, but still a difference. And if you didn't want an answer, why did you ask?

He hasn’t improved THIS one, and has not shown any evidence whatsoever that he will.

And if he improved Minnesota so much, why did they fire him?

Are you still whining? Has it accomplished anything?

Are you still whining about people whining? Has it accomplished anything?

Let's just hope we have a different coach next year. We should all be in agreement on that.

(01-01-2018 04:49 PM)450bench Wrote:  Let's just hope we have a different coach next year. We should all be in agreement on that.

Amen

I want one now lol

(01-01-2018 05:08 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  I want one now lol

Ditto

(01-01-2018 04:48 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:42 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:40 PM)Dylan Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:11 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 01:53 PM)Dylan Wrote:  We are currently 185 in KenPom with the worst recruiting class in the AAC. I don’t think you are truly open to the fact that we are worse off than we have been in almost 40 years.

Your question was what's better about this. I answered you. What's better about this is that this guy has actually improved the last two lackluster programs he took over. The other one drove a once thriving program into the ground. That's the difference. One scenario not likely, the other no way in hades. Not much of a difference, as I said, but still a difference. And if you didn't want an answer, why did you ask?

He hasn’t improved THIS one, and has not shown any evidence whatsoever that he will.

And if he improved Minnesota so much, why did they fire him?

Are you still whining? Has it accomplished anything?

Are you still whining about people whining? Has it accomplished anything?

It’ll be ok lil’ feller!

(01-01-2018 05:08 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  I want one now lol

Me too
I dread the idea of this staff coaching the Tigers next year but know it’s a possibility...yikes

(01-01-2018 05:20 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:08 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  I want one now lol

Me too
I dread the idea of this staff coaching the Tigers next year but know it’s a possibility...yikes

If they're here next year it will be the disaster of all disasters. Kind of like the rest of this year.

(01-01-2018 11:17 AM)450bench Wrote:  We really had no choice but to give Tubby a chance. After giving him every benefit of the doubt, as some of us did which was only fair, citing past accomplishment after past accomplishment, he deserves to be let go. Now.

I don't remember who the poster here was that kept repeating "we'll rue the day" in almost every thread, but it turns out he was right.

You know I never bought in, I just knew it was a horrible hire.. I was excited as heck when JP left but was then again let down when they got Tubby.. I had no confidence in the hire and I can’t get behind something I have no belief in.. I have watched one game in Tubby’s tenure and that was a waste of 2 hrs of my time.. It was as bad as I thought it would be.. He has never won anything without someone elses players, he doesn’t recruit and never has.. He wasn’t all of a sudden going to miraculously change once he got here!!

(01-01-2018 06:52 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 11:17 AM)450bench Wrote:  We really had no choice but to give Tubby a chance. After giving him every benefit of the doubt, as some of us did which was only fair, citing past accomplishment after past accomplishment, he deserves to be let go. Now.

I don't remember who the poster here was that kept repeating "we'll rue the day" in almost every thread, but it turns out he was right.

You know I never bought in, I just knew it was a horrible hire.. I was excited as heck when JP left but was then again let down when they got Tubby.. I had no confidence in the hire and I can’t get behind something I have no belief in.. I have watched one game in Tubby’s tenure and that was a waste of 2 hrs of my time.. It was as bad as I thought it would be.. He has never won anything without someone elses players, he doesn’t recruit and never has.. He wasn’t all of a sudden going to miraculously change once he got here!!

Yep.. People kept saying things like "if he will just hire a good recruiter". Even the Tub said at his post-hiring press conference he was going to hire a top recruiter...

What I said was, the Tub has been coaching for 30 years. This is no new revelation. If he hasn't hired a recruiter in 30 years, why is he going to suddenly hire one now?

(01-01-2018 07:03 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 06:52 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 11:17 AM)450bench Wrote:  We really had no choice but to give Tubby a chance. After giving him every benefit of the doubt, as some of us did which was only fair, citing past accomplishment after past accomplishment, he deserves to be let go. Now.

I don't remember who the poster here was that kept repeating "we'll rue the day" in almost every thread, but it turns out he was right.

You know I never bought in, I just knew it was a horrible hire.. I was excited as heck when JP left but was then again let down when they got Tubby.. I had no confidence in the hire and I can’t get behind something I have no belief in.. I have watched one game in Tubby’s tenure and that was a waste of 2 hrs of my time.. It was as bad as I thought it would be.. He has never won anything without someone elses players, he doesn’t recruit and never has.. He wasn’t all of a sudden going to miraculously change once he got here!!

Yep.. People kept saying things like "if he will just hire a good recruiter". Even the Tub said at his post-hiring press conference he was going to hire a top recruiter...

What I said was, the Tub has been coaching for 30 years. This is no new revelation. If he hasn't hired a recruiter in 30 years, why is he going to suddenly hire one now?

All of that is great and all. But now it’s time to turn the page. Tubby has to go and we (the U of M and big money cats) have to hire us a new coach. In my opinion it should be Penny. He will bring in a haul of a recruiting class and the fans will flock back to the forum. Now if they hire someone else, I’ll give that guy the same thing I gave Tubby, a chance to deliver. Whomever it is, I will either be supportive of or on the fence in a wait and see mode until they show they can’t get the job done.

Memtigbb, who would you like to see as the next coach? That’s what’s worth discussing. Start a list....

Penny
Crean
Forbes
Mack

I bet Tubby gets another season


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(01-01-2018 07:57 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  I bet Tubby gets another season


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I agree. I’d be surprised if we could afford the buyout...

(01-01-2018 07:57 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  I bet Tubby gets another season


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It depends on the ramifications of firing him. We're all kidding ourselves if we think it's a cut and dried as we make it here. Rudd and Bowen also have to consider the wishes of the ones who pay the bills. I hope they're on board with getting rid of his lazy ass and worthless assistants, but that's all it is, hope.

We played Cincinnati? I can't remember a season where I didn't know we were playing a rival.

(01-01-2018 09:30 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 07:57 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  I bet Tubby gets another season


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I agree. I’d be surprised if we could afford the buyout...

FWIW, a credible source told me money will not be an issue.

(01-01-2018 09:30 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 07:57 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  I bet Tubby gets another season


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I agree. I’d be surprised if we could afford the buyout...

(01-02-2018 08:54 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 09:30 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 07:57 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  I bet Tubby gets another season


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I agree. I’d be surprised if we could afford the buyout...

FWIW, a credible source told me money will not be an issue.

Lol... now that’s funny!