GermantownTiger
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RE: Why didn’t Memphis run a zone offense against LSU’s zone defense?
(12-29-2017 02:19 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote: I totally disagree. Both Davenport & Rivers can get good shots off there and more importantly can draw defenders and open up lanes. My thing is we didn’t even try and settled for quick threes, bad shots, with turnovers.
If we cannot attack the zone in a basic 101 format then why are we even playing? So if teams play zone on us I guess you’re are saying just throw in the towel and jack up 3’s?
Hey I’m not down on you for your opinion because evidently our HOF coach agrees with this tactic as he didn’t change it.
I think the few guys we have that can actually play a little bit see how untalented their other teammates really are and just get frustrated during live game situations.
Our only hope is to get better recruits beginning next year and ride out this season for the miserable shiteshow that it is.
It's just a challenging time to be a Tiger basketball fan right now.
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12-29-2017 05:01 PM |
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BJD
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RE: Why didn’t Memphis run a zone offense against LSU’s zone defense?
(12-29-2017 04:12 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote: (12-29-2017 02:55 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (12-29-2017 02:40 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote: (12-29-2017 01:22 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (12-29-2017 01:18 PM)3601 Wrote: So now Tubby is a poor floor coach too?
He isn't as good as the myth around him. Then throw in, even if he were, you can only get so much out of a team that is limited in ability.
I could have the greatest trainer in the world work with me every day for the next 3 years and I am still not breaking any track records. It is what it is.
But I will go back to saying he isn't as good of a developer and coach as people have made him out to be. If he were, he wouldn't have gone the last decade without breaking .500 in a conference.
Next you'll be saying his isn't a HOFer either.
Well, since you point it out, he isn't a HOFer at this time... probably in the future, but not right now.
I am open to him being what has been said. I am sure he has developed a lot of no-stars into NBA stars, I just can't think of any right now. I know he has taken no-stars and coached them to win championships. Or no, actually he has not.
His pre-KY days, he seemed to have had something going. His post-KY days have all been living on a myth. He has done nothing remarkable since KY.
I'm with you. Seriously, what makes him a HOF coach? One national championship? There are a lot of coaches who have won a national championship, and they aren't all Hall of Fame coaches.
Someone said Tubby hasn't had a winning record in conference in 12 years! 12 years! He hasn't recruited a top 150 player in over four years. He hasn't been to the Sweet 16 in over 10 years.
What the F makes him a HOF coach? Because he is endearing to other coaches and to sports media and they say it's so? I'm a numbers guy, and numbers don't lie.
Exactly!! Where does this HOF talk come from? I'm sure it's from tubby's agents. One HOF he is in is the grifter HOF. He is world class at grifting.
And the point about a winning record in a conference, that's true. Tubby hasn't had a winning record in any conference since he left UK.
And I see some are blaming the assistants. We had that too at UK and then it happened at Minn. While tubby certainly doesn't hire great assistants, the problem is not the assistants. Never has been. The problem is tubby.
he simply is not a good coach. He is a lazy recruiter and he lives his basketball in the past. His so called "ball-line defense" is nothing but a glorified zone that he learned from the great JD Barnett. You know?, the guy that won ?????
It's pretty much the same defense we played when I was in college. And we were very successful with it. Of course there was no shot clock and no 3 point line then. It's obsolete in today's game.
Don't even get me started on tabby's annual promise to "play fast".
Hopefully today's game where UK pasted UL will have UL looking for a coach. It's still my dream that UL hire tubby.
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RE: Why didn’t Memphis run a zone offense against LSU’s zone defense?
(12-29-2017 05:01 PM)GermantownTiger Wrote: (12-29-2017 02:19 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote: I totally disagree. Both Davenport & Rivers can get good shots off there and more importantly can draw defenders and open up lanes. My thing is we didn’t even try and settled for quick threes, bad shots, with turnovers.
If we cannot attack the zone in a basic 101 format then why are we even playing? So if teams play zone on us I guess you’re are saying just throw in the towel and jack up 3’s?
Hey I’m not down on you for your opinion because evidently our HOF coach agrees with this tactic as he didn’t change it.
I think the few guys we have that can actually play a little bit see how untalented their other teammates really are and just get frustrated during live game situations.
Our only hope is to get better recruits beginning next year and ride out this season for the miserable shiteshow that it is.
It's just a challenging time to be a Tiger basketball fan right now.
#BSAD
Basketball Seasonal Affective Disorder
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12-29-2017 05:22 PM |
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snowtiger
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RE: Why didn’t Memphis run a zone offense against LSU’s zone defense?
(12-29-2017 05:04 PM)BJD Wrote: (12-29-2017 04:12 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote: (12-29-2017 02:55 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (12-29-2017 02:40 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote: (12-29-2017 01:22 PM)memtigbb Wrote: He isn't as good as the myth around him. Then throw in, even if he were, you can only get so much out of a team that is limited in ability.
I could have the greatest trainer in the world work with me every day for the next 3 years and I am still not breaking any track records. It is what it is.
But I will go back to saying he isn't as good of a developer and coach as people have made him out to be. If he were, he wouldn't have gone the last decade without breaking .500 in a conference.
Next you'll be saying his isn't a HOFer either.
Well, since you point it out, he isn't a HOFer at this time... probably in the future, but not right now.
I am open to him being what has been said. I am sure he has developed a lot of no-stars into NBA stars, I just can't think of any right now. I know he has taken no-stars and coached them to win championships. Or no, actually he has not.
His pre-KY days, he seemed to have had something going. His post-KY days have all been living on a myth. He has done nothing remarkable since KY.
I'm with you. Seriously, what makes him a HOF coach? One national championship? There are a lot of coaches who have won a national championship, and they aren't all Hall of Fame coaches.
Someone said Tubby hasn't had a winning record in conference in 12 years! 12 years! He hasn't recruited a top 150 player in over four years. He hasn't been to the Sweet 16 in over 10 years.
What the F makes him a HOF coach? Because he is endearing to other coaches and to sports media and they say it's so? I'm a numbers guy, and numbers don't lie.
Exactly!! Where does this HOF talk come from? I'm sure it's from tubby's agents. One HOF he is in is the grifter HOF. He is world class at grifting.
And the point about a winning record in a conference, that's true. Tubby hasn't had a winning record in any conference since he left UK.
And I see some are blaming the assistants. We had that too at UK and then it happened at Minn. While tubby certainly doesn't hire great assistants, the problem is not the assistants. Never has been. The problem is tubby.
he simply is not a good coach. He is a lazy recruiter and he lives his basketball in the past. His so called "ball-line defense" is nothing but a glorified zone that he learned from the great JD Barnett. You know?, the guy that won ?????
It's pretty much the same defense we played when I was in college. And we were very successful with it. Of course there was no shot clock and no 3 point line then. It's obsolete in today's game.
Don't even get me started on tabby's annual promise to "play fast".
Hopefully today's game where UK pasted UL will have UL looking for a coach. It's still my dream that UL hire tubby.
Yup. good dream. That program is in sore need of a clean start with a future HOFer that doesn't cheat.
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12-29-2017 05:24 PM |
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RE: Why didn’t Memphis run a zone offense against LSU’s zone defense?
(12-29-2017 01:18 PM)3601 Wrote: So now Tubby is a poor floor coach too?
Yes.
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12-29-2017 06:56 PM |
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GermantownTiger
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RE: Why didn’t Memphis run a zone offense against LSU’s zone defense?
(12-29-2017 05:22 PM)snowtiger Wrote: (12-29-2017 05:01 PM)GermantownTiger Wrote: I think the few guys we have that can actually play a little bit see how untalented their other teammates really are and just get frustrated during live game situations.
Our only hope is to get better recruits beginning next year and ride out this season for the miserable shiteshow that it is.
It's just a challenging time to be a Tiger basketball fan right now.
#BSAD
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Guilty as charged.
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12-29-2017 07:40 PM |
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RE: Why didn’t Memphis run a zone offense against LSU’s zone defense?
(12-29-2017 05:04 PM)BJD Wrote: (12-29-2017 04:12 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote: (12-29-2017 02:55 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (12-29-2017 02:40 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote: (12-29-2017 01:22 PM)memtigbb Wrote: He isn't as good as the myth around him. Then throw in, even if he were, you can only get so much out of a team that is limited in ability.
I could have the greatest trainer in the world work with me every day for the next 3 years and I am still not breaking any track records. It is what it is.
But I will go back to saying he isn't as good of a developer and coach as people have made him out to be. If he were, he wouldn't have gone the last decade without breaking .500 in a conference.
Next you'll be saying his isn't a HOFer either.
Well, since you point it out, he isn't a HOFer at this time... probably in the future, but not right now.
I am open to him being what has been said. I am sure he has developed a lot of no-stars into NBA stars, I just can't think of any right now. I know he has taken no-stars and coached them to win championships. Or no, actually he has not.
His pre-KY days, he seemed to have had something going. His post-KY days have all been living on a myth. He has done nothing remarkable since KY.
I'm with you. Seriously, what makes him a HOF coach? One national championship? There are a lot of coaches who have won a national championship, and they aren't all Hall of Fame coaches.
Someone said Tubby hasn't had a winning record in conference in 12 years! 12 years! He hasn't recruited a top 150 player in over four years. He hasn't been to the Sweet 16 in over 10 years.
What the F makes him a HOF coach? Because he is endearing to other coaches and to sports media and they say it's so? I'm a numbers guy, and numbers don't lie.
Exactly!! Where does this HOF talk come from? I'm sure it's from tubby's agents. One HOF he is in is the grifter HOF. He is world class at grifting.
And the point about a winning record in a conference, that's true. Tubby hasn't had a winning record in any conference since he left UK.
And I see some are blaming the assistants. We had that too at UK and then it happened at Minn. While tubby certainly doesn't hire great assistants, the problem is not the assistants. Never has been. The problem is tubby.
he simply is not a good coach. He is a lazy recruiter and he lives his basketball in the past. His so called "ball-line defense" is nothing but a glorified zone that he learned from the great JD Barnett. You know?, the guy that won ?????
It's pretty much the same defense we played when I was in college. And we were very successful with it. Of course there was no shot clock and no 3 point line then. It's obsolete in today's game.
Don't even get me started on tabby's annual promise to "play fast".
Hopefully today's game where UK pasted UL will have UL looking for a coach. It's still my dream that UL hire tubby.
WOW--truer words have never been spoken ..err... um...I mean typed. I agree 100%. He is a CHARLATAN and has no HONOR.
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12-29-2017 10:35 PM |
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BealeStreetTiger
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RE: Why didn’t Memphis run a zone offense against LSU’s zone defense?
Since LSU was our last game I’m sure Mick Cronin & crew will reviewed it and zone us. What will be interesting is will Tubby stay with his usual set or counter? Since we don’t have any pure 3 point shooters and he doesn’t counter, is this grounds to void his contract due to incompetence?
Who knows sometimes dreams do come true.
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