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RE: Early Look All-MAC MBB
Fletcher is definitely most valuable player. Toledo would be back in the pack without him.
02-03-2018 05:22 PM
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Darrien Ringo...Miami Ringo leads the MAC in assists and steals (top 5 and top 10 nationally), he has intimidated and shut down guys like German of NIU and Ball State's good point guard.
02-03-2018 09:24 PM
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(02-03-2018 01:57 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  MAC POY candidate Tre'Shaun Fletcher in today's 21-point win vs. Akron on the road: 23 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists.

only 1 turnover as the primary ball handler and shot 60% from 3
02-04-2018 07:02 AM
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(12-29-2017 12:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Eugene German is the only guy from NIU I can think of, probably should be at least 2nd team. He doesn't get many assists but he can score.

He's a player, for sure.
02-06-2018 09:44 AM
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Fletcher has 15 at half against NIU. No defensive energy from the Huskies at all.
02-06-2018 07:47 PM
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German has 1,000,000 in the second half as he trots past Rocket defensive statuary for uncontested layup after uncontested layup. No defensive energy from Rockets. No offensive energy from Rockets. A couple guys seemed a little excited about the timeouts. German looked All-World tonight.
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RE: Early Look All-MAC MBB
What are the most relevant stats? Points? Assists? Assist to turnover ratio? Rebounds? I feel like steals and blocks are not valued as highly because the disparity is 3.1 to 2.5pg or whatever they end up being. Is points in MAC games important? Minutes? Your teams success?
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(02-07-2018 05:33 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  What are the most relevant stats? Points? Assists? Assist to turnover ratio? Rebounds? I feel like steals and blocks are not valued as highly because the disparity is 3.1 to 2.5pg or whatever they end up being. Is points in MAC games important? Minutes? Your teams success?

Years ago Craig Thames had one of the greatest seasons in MAC history, showing up in the Top Fifteen in every statistical category IIRC, including blocked shots at 5’ 10”. He didn’t get a sniff for POY so who knows.
02-07-2018 11:17 PM
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Fletcher is 3rd in scoring at 18.8ppg, 3rd in rebounding at 8.5rpg, 4th in assists at 4.3, 8th in A/TO ratio at 1.7, 7th in minutes. The team is in 2nd place. As far as I can see there are some other players spread across the board with good stats like JT4 and ringo and Massinburg... but no one near the top in PPG, assists, and rebounding but Fletch.
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I’ve always thought stats were a good starting point, but shouldn’t be the ultimate determining factor for individual awards. There are just too many other factors that play into individual performance, like the teammates you play with, the tempo you play at, etc. One player’s 16 ppg./8 reb. might be better than another’s 18/10. I think the subjective element is really important. You have to weigh a lot more than raw stats.
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