(12-23-2017 07:00 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  When did East Carolina join the American? I think they were in the CUSA in 2014.

ECU, Tulane, and Tulas joined in 2014.

(12-23-2017 08:16 PM)Limebull Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 06:05 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 05:59 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Where are the G4 fans rushing over to congratulate us.

Anytime a G5 program gets a P5 scalp it's a good thing. Does USF bring back a lot for next year?

No.

Taggart burned Flowers redshirt or he'd return next year. And him and Milton would be Heisman candidates.

Hard to believe that some teams might only give QF a shot at receiver. Let him develop as a pocket passer. Geez. Draft and develop him. Just don't get pigeon holed thinking.

(12-23-2017 04:37 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  And BYU also acted like a bunch of sore loser thugs after the game last year. Embarassed the entire university. And the player that started it all ? He is on the Browns roster. Lol.

That's a pretty harsh penalty for a fight.

(12-23-2017 08:12 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 07:00 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  When did East Carolina join the American? I think they were in the CUSA in 2014.

Without looking it up I don't know.
But it goes back to defining things. You want to measure the relative strength of AAC on 23 Dec 2017? Then let's include the resumes of the teams who are members on 23 Dec 2017. ESPECIALLY if the headline is AAC teams since 2014. So we're starting at not counting Navy's awesomeness in eighteen-dickety-two. Otherwise, Tulane is in the SEC for your reckoning.

If the point is conference strength in 2017, looking back to 2014, then your dataset should be 2017 conference members going back to 2014.

Now, that's some college logic right there...

Can not be argued with.

(12-23-2017 06:05 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 05:59 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Where are the G4 fans rushing over to congratulate us.

Anytime a G5 program gets a P5 scalp it's a good thing. Does USF bring back a lot for next year?

No. USF is losing a ton of seniors. USF is bringing back 2 of their top receivers (McCants and Salomon), however, has to break in a new QB and find a running back.

Flowers single handedly won us a lot of games, to be honest with you, on sheer athletic ability.

USF just signed 2 decent 3 star QB's in the early signing period.

Will be difficult replace the best player in USF history. The current QB's on the roster, Kean and Olodokun, will get the first crack at replacing Flowers. Kean is probably the more accurate of the 2 passers. The other 2 QB's coming in are Octavious Battle and Jordan McCloud. Charlie Strong will have to earn his paycheck next year.

(12-24-2017 12:40 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 06:05 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 05:59 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Where are the G4 fans rushing over to congratulate us.

Anytime a G5 program gets a P5 scalp it's a good thing. Does USF bring back a lot for next year?

No. USF is losing a ton of seniors. USF is bringing back 2 of their top receivers (McCants and Salomon), however, has to break in a new QB and find a running back.

Flowers single handedly won us a lot of games, to be honest with you, on sheer athletic ability.

USF just signed 2 decent 3 star QB's in the early signing period.

Will be difficult replace the best player in USF history. The current QB's on the roster, Kean and Olodokun, will get the first crack at replacing Flowers. Kean is probably the more accurate of the 2 passers. The other 2 QB's coming in are Octavious Battle and Jordan McCloud. Charlie Strong will have to earn his paycheck next year.

So you're saying you guys will not be pre-season ranked...

(12-24-2017 12:40 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 06:05 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 05:59 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Where are the G4 fans rushing over to congratulate us.

Anytime a G5 program gets a P5 scalp it's a good thing. Does USF bring back a lot for next year?

No. USF is losing a ton of seniors. USF is bringing back 2 of their top receivers (McCants and Salomon), however, has to break in a new QB and find a running back.

Flowers single handedly won us a lot of games, to be honest with you, on sheer athletic ability.

USF just signed 2 decent 3 star QB's in the early signing period.

Will be difficult replace the best player in USF history. The current QB's on the roster, Kean and Olodokun, will get the first crack at replacing Flowers. Kean is probably the more accurate of the 2 passers. The other 2 QB's coming in are Octavious Battle and Jordan McCloud. Charlie Strong will have to earn his paycheck next year.

I thought the RB looked pretty good, #6 I think. Congrats on a good season.

(12-24-2017 12:42 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 12:40 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 06:05 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 05:59 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Where are the G4 fans rushing over to congratulate us.

Anytime a G5 program gets a P5 scalp it's a good thing. Does USF bring back a lot for next year?

No. USF is losing a ton of seniors. USF is bringing back 2 of their top receivers (McCants and Salomon), however, has to break in a new QB and find a running back.

Flowers single handedly won us a lot of games, to be honest with you, on sheer athletic ability.

USF just signed 2 decent 3 star QB's in the early signing period.

Will be difficult replace the best player in USF history. The current QB's on the roster, Kean and Olodokun, will get the first crack at replacing Flowers. Kean is probably the more accurate of the 2 passers. The other 2 QB's coming in are Octavious Battle and Jordan McCloud. Charlie Strong will have to earn his paycheck next year.

So you're saying you guys will not be pre-season ranked...

#10 in ESPN's bottom 10 ranking.

(12-23-2017 04:25 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I've got us 5-6.
2014: Houston over Pitt, UCF lost to NCSU, Cincy L to VPI, ECU L to UF.
2015: Navy over Pitt and Houston over FSU, but Memphis L to Auburn, Tulsa L to VPI.
2016: Temple loss in Annapolis to Wake, USF starts their BHam Bowl win streak (2 and counting)
2017: USF again, and three to go.

Since 2014, the G4 COMBINED is 3-8 vs the P5 with a couple of games left this year:

Duke-Northern Ill
Fla St - Southern Miss

So over four years, we've played one more bowl against the P5 than the entire G4 did.

(12-23-2017 08:21 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 08:16 PM)Limebull Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 06:05 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 05:59 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Where are the G4 fans rushing over to congratulate us.

Anytime a G5 program gets a P5 scalp it's a good thing. Does USF bring back a lot for next year?

No.

Taggart burned Flowers redshirt or he'd return next year. And him and Milton would be Heisman candidates.

Hard to believe that some teams might only give QF a shot at receiver. Let him develop as a pocket passer. Geez. Draft and develop him. Just don't get pigeon holed thinking.

I don't think he has the arm strength for the NFL. Any chance of him going to the combine as a WR? Watched Josh Allen in the potato bowl field level for warm-ups. That dude has a cannon for an arm. Elway was at the game scouting him.

(12-24-2017 12:55 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 04:25 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I've got us 5-6.
2014: Houston over Pitt, UCF lost to NCSU, Cincy L to VPI, ECU L to UF.
2015: Navy over Pitt and Houston over FSU, but Memphis L to Auburn, Tulsa L to VPI.
2016: Temple loss in Annapolis to Wake, USF starts their BHam Bowl win streak (2 and counting)
2017: USF again, and three to go.

Since 2014, the G4 COMBINED is 3-8 vs the P5 with a couple of games left this year:

Duke-Northern Ill
Fla St - Southern Miss

So over four years, we've played one more bowl against the P5 than the entire G4 did.

Weird. BSU alone has 2 P5 bowl wins by themselves since 2014.

(12-24-2017 01:01 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 12:55 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 04:25 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I've got us 5-6.
2014: Houston over Pitt, UCF lost to NCSU, Cincy L to VPI, ECU L to UF.
2015: Navy over Pitt and Houston over FSU, but Memphis L to Auburn, Tulsa L to VPI.
2016: Temple loss in Annapolis to Wake, USF starts their BHam Bowl win streak (2 and counting)
2017: USF again, and three to go.

Since 2014, the G4 COMBINED is 3-8 vs the P5 with a couple of games left this year:

Duke-Northern Ill
Fla St - Southern Miss

So over four years, we've played one more bowl against the P5 than the entire G4 did.

Weird. BSU alone has 2 P5 bowl wins by themselves since 2014.

So does USF

(12-23-2017 04:28 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 04:25 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I've got us 5-6.
2014: Houston over Pitt, UCF lost to NCSU, Cincy L to VPI, ECU L to UF.
2015: Navy over Pitt and Houston over FSU, but Memphis L to Auburn, Tulsa L to VPI.
2016: Temple loss in Annapolis to Wake, USF starts their BHam Bowl win streak (2 and counting)
2017: USF again, and three to go.

Should we (Memphis) not get credit for Mem over BYU (Miami Beach Bowl)? Doesn't the majority of P5s consider them P5 for scheduling purposes?

Only if it is needed as a tie breaker..

(12-24-2017 01:01 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 12:55 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 04:25 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I've got us 5-6.
2014: Houston over Pitt, UCF lost to NCSU, Cincy L to VPI, ECU L to UF.
2015: Navy over Pitt and Houston over FSU, but Memphis L to Auburn, Tulsa L to VPI.
2016: Temple loss in Annapolis to Wake, USF starts their BHam Bowl win streak (2 and counting)
2017: USF again, and three to go.

Since 2014, the G4 COMBINED is 3-8 vs the P5 with a couple of games left this year:

Duke-Northern Ill
Fla St - Southern Miss

So over four years, we've played one more bowl against the P5 than the entire G4 did.

Weird. BSU alone has 2 P5 bowl wins by themselves since 2014.

Boise is the shining star of the G4.

The rest are 1-7 vs the P5.

(12-24-2017 12:42 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 12:40 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 06:05 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 05:59 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Where are the G4 fans rushing over to congratulate us.

Anytime a G5 program gets a P5 scalp it's a good thing. Does USF bring back a lot for next year?

No. USF is losing a ton of seniors. USF is bringing back 2 of their top receivers (McCants and Salomon), however, has to break in a new QB and find a running back.

Flowers single handedly won us a lot of games, to be honest with you, on sheer athletic ability.

USF just signed 2 decent 3 star QB's in the early signing period.

Will be difficult replace the best player in USF history. The current QB's on the roster, Kean and Olodokun, will get the first crack at replacing Flowers. Kean is probably the more accurate of the 2 passers. The other 2 QB's coming in are Octavious Battle and Jordan McCloud. Charlie Strong will have to earn his paycheck next year.

So you're saying you guys will not be pre-season ranked...

Probably not this team will be good.

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(12-24-2017 07:06 PM)bullsbucsfan426 Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 12:42 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 12:40 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 06:05 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 05:59 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Where are the G4 fans rushing over to congratulate us.

Anytime a G5 program gets a P5 scalp it's a good thing. Does USF bring back a lot for next year?

No. USF is losing a ton of seniors. USF is bringing back 2 of their top receivers (McCants and Salomon), however, has to break in a new QB and find a running back.

Flowers single handedly won us a lot of games, to be honest with you, on sheer athletic ability.

USF just signed 2 decent 3 star QB's in the early signing period.

Will be difficult replace the best player in USF history. The current QB's on the roster, Kean and Olodokun, will get the first crack at replacing Flowers. Kean is probably the more accurate of the 2 passers. The other 2 QB's coming in are Octavious Battle and Jordan McCloud. Charlie Strong will have to earn his paycheck next year.

So you're saying you guys will not be pre-season ranked...

Probably not this team will be good.

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Oh I hope so. I hope you and UCF and Memphis are all ranked. But you and I both know they (poll voters) will use any excuse to doubt our worthiness... UCF - lost its coach, Memphis - lost its QB, USF - same thing... etc. etc.

In the past few years UH has P5 wins against Arizona, Louisville twice, OU, FSU, Pitt, Texas Tech and Ok St.

(12-23-2017 04:05 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  P6 ball is always very close. 5-5

AAC has only been around for 5 yrs so why not count all 5, especially since Season #1 icluded a BCS Bowl win over Big 12 Champ Baylor in the last Tostitos BCS Fiesta Biwl.

(12-24-2017 12:40 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 06:05 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 05:59 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Where are the G4 fans rushing over to congratulate us.

Anytime a G5 program gets a P5 scalp it's a good thing. Does USF bring back a lot for next year?

No. USF is losing a ton of seniors. USF is bringing back 2 of their top receivers (McCants and Salomon), however, has to break in a new QB and find a running back.

Flowers single handedly won us a lot of games, to be honest with you, on sheer athletic ability.

USF just signed 2 decent 3 star QB's in the early signing period.

Will be difficult replace the best player in USF history. The current QB's on the roster, Kean and Olodokun, will get the first crack at replacing Flowers. Kean is probably the more accurate of the 2 passers. The other 2 QB's coming in are Octavious Battle and Jordan McCloud. Charlie Strong will have to earn his paycheck next year.

And lost games when coaching held him back.

(12-23-2017 04:25 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I've got us 5-6.
2014: Houston over Pitt, UCF lost to NCSU, Cincy L to VPI, ECU L to UF.
2015: Navy over Pitt and Houston over FSU, but Memphis L to Auburn, Tulsa L to VPI.
2016: Temple loss in Annapolis to Wake, USF starts their BHam Bowl win streak (2 and counting)
2017: USF again, and three to go.

I just realized this was only bowl games and at first was very confused