https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...2e42b2bfab

Hey, pops, you still buckled up?

(12-23-2017 09:35 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I’m absolutely amazed that they had emails on the Trump Tower meeting. That they had audio of Republican leaders saying they believe Putin pays off two people. That wasn’t D leaders boys. How in the hell didn’t THAT blow up????????? Never ever ever say that you guys are at a disadvantage in the media category. If that exact same situation would have happened in 08 we wouldn’t have gotten Obamacare or any D priorities. You guys get 1.5 trillion given to corporations under more trickle down mambo jumbo. They are already flush with cash and you guys think it will lead to higher wages and jobs. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think I will be. The greatest con artist of the past two centuries. Putin ran the best espionage caper probably ever. He has a sitting President as an asset. Amazing really. Everybody knows it too, but we have tax cuts and Supreme Court justices to sit.

I can assure you.....Putin didn't have a damn thing to do with ME backing DJT out of the gate.....and I'm tickled pinky tuscadero how this playing out to date.....

I love ya Mach, but until you guys come up with a tangible macro economic policy, no way do I ever vote donk.....

as a reminder, JFK was basically also a trickle down feller....

what it comes down to is economics......and again, I'm socially left up to a point.....

if you guys would come with a comparable option, I'm fairly certain the left would swing some back to the left....

however, after ZERO, you guys are in a spot that only deserves a place in hell......

From Mach's article...

After being told that The Post would cite a recording of the exchange, Buck, speaking for the GOP House leadership, said: **“This entire year-old exchange was clearly an attempt at humor. No one believed the majority leader was seriously asserting that Donald Trump or any of our members were being paid by the Russians. What’s more, the speaker and leadership team have repeatedly spoken out against Russia’s interference in our election, and the House continues to investigate that activity.”**

And FFS Mach, the Top Secret Info he shared with the russians was in coordination with the fight against ISIS, the one Obama was incapable of winning.

(12-23-2017 09:48 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...2e42b2bfab

(12-23-2017 09:07 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The ends always justifies the means. Trump obstructing justice will be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. You won’t get a Republican Congress to do the right thing. He should already be impeached.

Based upon what evidence?

Well, who should we nominate for most delusional poster of the year?

Attempt at humor?. So funny. I’m sure you would buy that Ocean front property in Wyoming that Trump is selling too! You guys are unbelievable.

(12-22-2017 10:46 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 02:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  I know of none.

In alternate reality, yes. In the real world, there is more evidence of collusion than evidence of Obama wiretapping.

Again, what is the legal evidence?

(12-23-2017 04:43 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:46 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 02:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  I know of none.

In alternate reality, yes. In the real world, there is more evidence of collusion than evidence of Obama wiretapping.

Again, what is the legal evidence?

Once again, we keep asking about that "little nuance" called e-v-i-d-e-n-c-e. Facts talk and opinions walk! Oh wait, Mueller needs more time. Like another year's worth...

(12-23-2017 05:00 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 04:43 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:46 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 02:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  I know of none.

In alternate reality, yes. In the real world, there is more evidence of collusion than evidence of Obama wiretapping.

Again, what is the legal evidence?

Once again, we keep asking about that "little nuance" called e-v-i-d-e-n-c-e. Facts talk and opinions walk! Oh wait, Mueller needs more time. Like another year's worth...

Given recent history, they need no real legit legal evidence. The MSM tells them something and they buy it hook line and sinker. It is rather hilarious to watch each accusation go up in smoke and to then see them squirm to find something else to throw against the wall.

(12-22-2017 08:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Obstruction looks like it's a given at this point. Now, there just trying to figure out why.

Obstruction of what? If you mean justice, that is done by Billy boy and Lynch on the runway.


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(12-23-2017 05:29 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 05:00 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 04:43 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:46 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 02:02 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  I know of none.

In alternate reality, yes. In the real world, there is more evidence of collusion than evidence of Obama wiretapping.

Again, what is the legal evidence?

Once again, we keep asking about that "little nuance" called e-v-i-d-e-n-c-e. Facts talk and opinions walk! Oh wait, Mueller needs more time. Like another year's worth...

Given recent history, they need no real legit legal evidence. The MSM tells them something and they buy it hook line and sinker. It is rather hilarious to watch each accusation go up in smoke and to then see them squirm to find something else to throw against the wall.

I think Mika and Joe can be found underneath this piling on....I'm thinking it was madcow that got pushed out of way in a feeble 'rescue attempt'....

https://theweek.com/articles/744702/most...washington

The conspiracy!

(12-24-2017 11:02 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://theweek.com/articles/744702/most...washington

The conspiracy!

That’s a pretty good example of what’s going on. I’d go further. I think the Russia story was a set up to allow the Obama Administration to use federal intellelgence agencies to monitor and spy on the opposition party. It was a clever borderline “legal” way to do what the clumsy Nixon plumbers failed to do in the illegal Watergate break in. That’s the story that’s not being covered...but will be...eventually...if we have any real journalist left.

They held a meeting in Trump Tower promising dirt on Hilary Clinton obtained illegally. WTF is the purpose of this op. That is colluding. End of story. Just because a GOP congress and their supporters ignore this doesn’t make it not collusion. I’m just absolutely amazed they have it on email. That is what is surprising.

(12-23-2017 11:51 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 09:07 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The ends always justifies the means. Trump obstructing justice will be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. You won’t get a Republican Congress to do the right thing. He should already be impeached.

Based upon what evidence?

You *really* think Machiavelli or Mensa will answer *any* question asking them for proof on either collusion or obstruction? If so, I have some land in Florida I'd love to sell you.

I am *not* holding my breath for either Mach or Mensa to back up their statements.

(But it is fun to continuously hold their feet to the fire..... It's a lot like my 4 year old niece continuously stating that the bowl fell from from the kitchen counter without anyone ever touching it, let alone her (who happened to be the only living organism within 60 feet of the bowl that just happened to have the remains of chocolate cake batter in it))

(12-24-2017 11:49 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  They held a meeting in Trump Tower promising dirt on Hilary Clinton obtained illegally. WTF is the purpose of this op. That is colluding. End of story. Just because a GOP congress and their supporters ignore this doesn’t make it not collusion. I’m just absolutely amazed they have it on email. That is what is surprising.

That’s not collusion. Takes more than they had a meeting.

(12-24-2017 11:54 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 11:49 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  They held a meeting in Trump Tower promising dirt on Hilary Clinton obtained illegally. WTF is the purpose of this op. That is colluding. End of story. Just because a GOP congress and their supporters ignore this doesn’t make it not collusion. I’m just absolutely amazed they have it on email. That is what is surprising.

That’s not collusion. Takes more than they had a meeting.

Plus, if that was colluding then this entire "investigation" would be over. People listen to the damn MSM way too much for their own good. It's embarrasing. People need to learn to think for themselves.

Yeah that meeting was about Russian adoptions. After the email said it was about dirt on the Clinton’s. That you continue to ignore this speaks volumes.

Que Sera Sera