When this league was founded, none of the C-USA teams were particularly good in recent years outside of Memphis and maybe Tulsa. But SMU turned it around right away with the Larry Brown hire, then Houston and UCF turned it around with their own splashy hires. Now it looks like Dunleavy has Tulane on the right track. Now we just need to hope that Brian Gregory can turn it around at USF and that East Carolina's incompetent AD somehow manages to not screw things up worse.

(12-21-2017 07:01 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:46 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:04 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 03:55 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  6 Pac 12 + 8.81
7. AAC +7.97

Here's the thing. The Pac 12's top teams are

Arizona
Arizona St
USC
Oregon
UCLA
Utah

SMU beat Arizona and USC.
Cincy beat UCLA.
UConn beat Oregon

I can't see how anyone can argue the Pac 12 is better than the American this year.

Agreed .. as I stated in my original post. Without USF and ECU the AAC is far ahead of the PAC 12

The problem with ECU and badketbsll is nothing new. In fsct, originally ECU's basketball program was not going to be allowed in the conference. The Big East basketball members left and that, unfortunately, changed. ECU's basketball history I'd really poor and there's nothing suggests its getting better.

I see we've both been pregaming for the big UCONN-Arizona game tonight.

(12-21-2017 06:46 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:04 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 03:55 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  6 Pac 12 + 8.81
7. AAC +7.97

Here's the thing. The Pac 12's top teams are

Arizona
Arizona St
USC
Oregon
UCLA
Utah

SMU beat Arizona and USC.
Cincy beat UCLA.
UConn beat Oregon

I can't see how anyone can argue the Pac 12 is better than the American this year.

Agreed .. as I stated in my original post. Without USF and ECU the AAC is far ahead of the PAC 12

Do we really need USF and ECU in the league other than maybe football? Can they be demoted to football only members?

(12-21-2017 08:02 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:46 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:04 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 03:55 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  6 Pac 12 + 8.81
7. AAC +7.97

Here's the thing. The Pac 12's top teams are

Arizona
Arizona St
USC
Oregon
UCLA
Utah

SMU beat Arizona and USC.
Cincy beat UCLA.
UConn beat Oregon

I can't see how anyone can argue the Pac 12 is better than the American this year.

Agreed .. as I stated in my original post. Without USF and ECU the AAC is far ahead of the PAC 12

Do we really need USF and ECU in the league other than maybe football? Can they be demoted to football only members?

USF seems to be trying. But if ECU screws up this hire, I'm all for Temple-ing them. There is no saving grace.

To be fair we have competed with alot of the conference last couple years.....a lot of close losses...and some wins. This team this year is bad bad bad...no hope of anymore than 2 wins in conference.

(12-21-2017 08:22 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  To be fair we have competed with alot of the conference last couple years.....a lot of close losses...and some wins. This team this year is bad bad bad...no hope of anymore than 2 wins in conference.

True. And TBH I wouldn't trade ECU for any G4 school.

(12-21-2017 08:24 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:22 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  To be fair we have competed with alot of the conference last couple years.....a lot of close losses...and some wins. This team this year is bad bad bad...no hope of anymore than 2 wins in conference.

True. And TBH I wouldn't trade ECU for any G4 school.

Haven’t had a good product for awhile but had 6,000 in the stands when SMU played them. The student section had a yell leader that was actually really clever and something I want our students to copy

ECU is good peoples.


I have decided they may stay. Proceed.

(12-21-2017 08:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:02 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:46 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:04 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 03:55 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  6 Pac 12 + 8.81
7. AAC +7.97

Here's the thing. The Pac 12's top teams are

Arizona
Arizona St
USC
Oregon
UCLA
Utah

SMU beat Arizona and USC.
Cincy beat UCLA.
UConn beat Oregon

I can't see how anyone can argue the Pac 12 is better than the American this year.

Agreed .. as I stated in my original post. Without USF and ECU the AAC is far ahead of the PAC 12

Do we really need USF and ECU in the league other than maybe football? Can they be demoted to football only members?

USF seems to be trying. But if ECU screws up this hire, I'm all for Temple-ing them. There is no saving grace.

I'll add in football, with the lone exception of the loss to JMU. We've more than done our part in the OOC slate since we've been added. 2 Wins over VA Tech, 1 over UNC, 1 over NCSU, and one over BYU. All since 2014.

(12-22-2017 08:19 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:02 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:46 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:04 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Here's the thing. The Pac 12's top teams are

Arizona
Arizona St
USC
Oregon
UCLA
Utah

SMU beat Arizona and USC.
Cincy beat UCLA.
UConn beat Oregon

I can't see how anyone can argue the Pac 12 is better than the American this year.

Agreed .. as I stated in my original post. Without USF and ECU the AAC is far ahead of the PAC 12

Do we really need USF and ECU in the league other than maybe football? Can they be demoted to football only members?

USF seems to be trying. But if ECU screws up this hire, I'm all for Temple-ing them. There is no saving grace.

I'll add in football, with the lone exception of the loss to JMU. We've more than done our part in the OOC slate since we've been added. 2 Wins over VA Tech, 1 over UNC, 1 over NCSU, and one over BYU. All since 2014.

Who cares we are full members they couldn't Temple us if they wanted nothing more in the world.

(12-22-2017 09:17 AM)ECBrad Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 08:19 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:02 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:46 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  Agreed .. as I stated in my original post. Without USF and ECU the AAC is far ahead of the PAC 12

Do we really need USF and ECU in the league other than maybe football? Can they be demoted to football only members?

USF seems to be trying. But if ECU screws up this hire, I'm all for Temple-ing them. There is no saving grace.

I'll add in football, with the lone exception of the loss to JMU. We've more than done our part in the OOC slate since we've been added. 2 Wins over VA Tech, 1 over UNC, 1 over NCSU, and one over BYU. All since 2014.

Who cares we are full members they couldn't Temple us if they wanted nothing more in the world.

+2 for using “Temple” as a verb.

(12-22-2017 09:21 AM)vick mike Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 09:17 AM)ECBrad Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 08:19 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:02 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Do we really need USF and ECU in the league other than maybe football? Can they be demoted to football only members?

USF seems to be trying. But if ECU screws up this hire, I'm all for Temple-ing them. There is no saving grace.

I'll add in football, with the lone exception of the loss to JMU. We've more than done our part in the OOC slate since we've been added. 2 Wins over VA Tech, 1 over UNC, 1 over NCSU, and one over BYU. All since 2014.

Who cares we are full members they couldn't Temple us if they wanted nothing more in the world.

+2 for using “Temple” as a verb.

Excuse me...??!?!

Typical ECU - mooching off others in this league!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(12-22-2017 09:28 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 09:21 AM)vick mike Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 09:17 AM)ECBrad Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 08:19 AM)oasispirate Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 08:05 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  USF seems to be trying. But if ECU screws up this hire, I'm all for Temple-ing them. There is no saving grace.

I'll add in football, with the lone exception of the loss to JMU. We've more than done our part in the OOC slate since we've been added. 2 Wins over VA Tech, 1 over UNC, 1 over NCSU, and one over BYU. All since 2014.

Who cares we are full members they couldn't Temple us if they wanted nothing more in the world.

+2 for using “Temple” as a verb.

Excuse me...??!?!

Typical ECU - mooching off others in this league!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sir Husky sir! Apologies for giving credit erroneously, sir!

(12-21-2017 06:53 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:18 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:13 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 06:03 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  ECU was picked to finish 4th in the Coaches Preseason Baseball Poll. Finally something for them them to contribute...maybe.

Fans of team that ECU beat in basketball can not comment on ECU basketball. First rule of basketball.

This thread is about conference member contributions. UCONN still had a higher RPI/KenPom/BPI/... than ECU last year. Try to keep up. No, really. Try to keep up cuz you're bringing the entire conference down in EVERY sport.

Whatever. Bow before our Swimming/Diving!

As long as it's women's swimming/diving, then we good.

Slightly off topic, but when is the best time to hire a basketball coach... taking recruiting into accounting, are we hurting ourselves by holding onto an interim rather than going ahead and trying to make a mid-season hire?

(12-22-2017 09:36 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Slightly off topic, but when is the best time to hire a basketball coach... taking recruiting into accounting, are we hurting ourselves by holding onto an interim rather than going ahead and trying to make a mid-season hire?

Mid season hires are pretty rare unless you're hiring someone that isn't currently coaching a team.

If ECU was to hire Tom Crean for instance, I think it would be wise to do that as soon as possible so he could start recruiting.

(12-22-2017 09:46 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 09:36 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Slightly off topic, but when is the best time to hire a basketball coach... taking recruiting into accounting, are we hurting ourselves by holding onto an interim rather than going ahead and trying to make a mid-season hire?

Mid season hires are pretty rare unless you're hiring someone that isn't currently coaching a team.

If ECU was to hire Tom Crean for instance, I think it would be wise to do that as soon as possible so he could start recruiting.

Yeah the only way we'd be able to hire someone midseason is someone who's unemployed, and the only option I'd consider worthy of doing that for is if Crean were somehow interested. Mark Gottfried is supposedly interested, and I'm not completely against the idea, but he's not such a slam dunk that you make a hire now. Also with us inking 4 HS guys in the early signing period, 3 of whom I actually really like, we aren't missing out on that much recruiting wise. I'd probably want the new coach to hit the transfer market with the last couple of scholarships anyway and whoever we hire should have enough time to do that.

(12-22-2017 09:36 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Slightly off topic, but when is the best time to hire a basketball coach... taking recruiting into accounting, are we hurting ourselves by holding onto an interim rather than going ahead and trying to make a mid-season hire?

We already have a 4 man class signed, appears they are sticking from all indications. No reason to rush on a hire, make the hire in the 1st or 2nd week of March should be fine.

(12-22-2017 10:08 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 09:46 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 09:36 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Slightly off topic, but when is the best time to hire a basketball coach... taking recruiting into accounting, are we hurting ourselves by holding onto an interim rather than going ahead and trying to make a mid-season hire?

Mid season hires are pretty rare unless you're hiring someone that isn't currently coaching a team.

If ECU was to hire Tom Crean for instance, I think it would be wise to do that as soon as possible so he could start recruiting.

Yeah the only way we'd be able to hire someone midseason is someone who's unemployed, and the only option I'd consider worthy of doing that for is if Crean were somehow interested. Mark Gottfried is supposedly interested, and I'm not completely against the idea, but he's not such a slam dunk that you make a hire now. Also with us inking 4 HS guys in the early signing period, 3 of whom I actually really like, we aren't missing out on that much recruiting wise. I'd probably want the new coach to hit the transfer market with the last couple of scholarships anyway and whoever we hire should have enough time to do that.

Whose the 4th signee? I had only seen 3 previously Wynn, Wade, & Gardner.

(12-22-2017 10:14 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:08 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 09:46 AM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 09:36 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Slightly off topic, but when is the best time to hire a basketball coach... taking recruiting into accounting, are we hurting ourselves by holding onto an interim rather than going ahead and trying to make a mid-season hire?

Mid season hires are pretty rare unless you're hiring someone that isn't currently coaching a team.

If ECU was to hire Tom Crean for instance, I think it would be wise to do that as soon as possible so he could start recruiting.

Yeah the only way we'd be able to hire someone midseason is someone who's unemployed, and the only option I'd consider worthy of doing that for is if Crean were somehow interested. Mark Gottfried is supposedly interested, and I'm not completely against the idea, but he's not such a slam dunk that you make a hire now. Also with us inking 4 HS guys in the early signing period, 3 of whom I actually really like, we aren't missing out on that much recruiting wise. I'd probably want the new coach to hit the transfer market with the last couple of scholarships anyway and whoever we hire should have enough time to do that.

Whose the 4th signee? I had only seen 3 previously Wynn, Wade, & Gardner.

Rico Quinton, apparently had a late growth spurt.

http://ecupirates.com/news/2017/11/21/me...ignee.aspx