(12-22-2017 12:55 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 12:06 AM)vick mike Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 11:40 PM)fanhood Wrote:  2-9 now.

Any objective opinion on Temple rolling FIU?

After facing a AAC with its head coach it seems all haters have vacated the thread.

Solid number 2 G5 win. FIU is a great team with Lane at the helm.

Man, Can we just add Boise and BYU and end this nonsense now?

(12-21-2017 11:55 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  32-15

Exactly.

The P5 conferences all have a chance at making the playoffs and playing for the national championship. The AAC is not afforded that right. If it were, I'd readily accept the fact that a P6 exists. Until that time, claiming the existence of a "P6" makes you guys look like pathetic wannabes. The P5 ditched you guys just like they did the rest of us.

What the AAC is right now is the top G5 conference, and that is because you have UCF, USF, UH, and Memphis in football, and UCONN in basketball. The rest of your programs like Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, etc., are no better than any other G5 conference programs.

Now, having said all this, there IS the change that if Texas and Oklahoma, and OK State ever leave the Big 12, UCF, USF, UH, Memphis, and UCONN will be able to join up with the likes of Baylor, Texas Tech, and Kansas, to form what could actually become a true P6 conference. Short of something like this though, and you guys are stuck with the likes of Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, etc., and that means you're stuck in the G5.

(12-22-2017 06:23 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  The P5 conferences all have a chance at making the playoffs and playing for the national championship. The AAC is not afforded that right. If it were, I'd readily accept the fact that a P6 exists. Until that time, claiming the existence of a "P6" makes you guys look like pathetic wannabes. The P5 ditched you guys just like they did the rest of us.

What the AAC is right now is the top G5 conference, and that is because you have UCF, USF, UH, and Memphis in football, and UCONN in basketball. The rest of your programs like Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, etc., are no better than any other G5 conference programs.

Now, having said all this, there IS the change that if Texas and Oklahoma, and OK State ever leave the Big 12, UCF, USF, UH, Memphis, and UCONN will be able to join up with the likes of Baylor, Texas Tech, and Kansas, to form what could actually become a true P6 conference. Short of something like this though, and you guys are stuck with the likes of Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, etc., and that means you're stuck in the G5.

So bitter. ECU was actually first school ranked in Cfp poll starting the P6 narrative. There is a reason La Tech is not in AAC and that is lack of value both in fan support and perception. Your team is in arguably the worst sports conference in the country with a tv package that is as bad as any FCS conference.

So your thoughts here while amusing are also given from a place of both desperation and jealousy. The P6 narrative is about branding and perception. And by the way when the schools you mentioned have off years others in the conference will just take their place. You guys won your super bowl against a team in crisis without their coach, congrats. Your still stuck in a black hole.

I make a motion that Fan Hoodiego State be restricted from starting threads in the AAC board. He has a clear anti P6 bias and the threads he starts are full of wild conjecture and paranoid delusion.

He may comment on existing threads, but he should be banned from starting his own threads.



The Village Sage has spoken. Ignore ancient wisdom at thy own peril.

(12-22-2017 12:06 AM)vick mike Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 11:40 PM)fanhood Wrote:  2-9 now.

Any objective opinion on Temple rolling FIU?

I thought the QB getting injured in the first half clearly effected the game. However, it was still a game in the 4th quarter.

All credit to Temple for knocking out the starting QB, and playing lights out defense. They looked good.

(12-22-2017 07:58 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I make a motion that Fan Hoodiego State be restricted from starting threads in the AAC board. He has a clear anti P6 bias and the threads he starts are full of wild conjecture and paranoid delusion.

He may comment on existing threads, but he should be banned from starting his own threads.



The Village Sage has spoken. Ignore ancient wisdom at thy own peril.

Posting statistics is never indicative of bias. I may be bias, but the anger about posting simple win and loss records is silly. Here is another one courtesy of our "friend" Brett McMurphy:

G5 vs G5 in Bowl Games:

C-USA 14-7 (.667)
MWC 9-5 (.643)
Sun Belt 9-7 (.563)
MAC 5-11 (.313)
AAC 2-9 (.182)

G5 vs. Power 5 in bowls:

C-USA 1-1 (.500)
AAC 4-5 (.444)
MWC 2-4 (.333)
MAC 0-3 (.000)
Sun Belt 0-0

*Last 4 years since start of CFBPlayoff thru Thursday

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...1913843712

(12-22-2017 07:46 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 06:23 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  The P5 conferences all have a chance at making the playoffs and playing for the national championship. The AAC is not afforded that right. If it were, I'd readily accept the fact that a P6 exists. Until that time, claiming the existence of a "P6" makes you guys look like pathetic wannabes. The P5 ditched you guys just like they did the rest of us.

What the AAC is right now is the top G5 conference, and that is because you have UCF, USF, UH, and Memphis in football, and UCONN in basketball. The rest of your programs like Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, etc., are no better than any other G5 conference programs.

Now, having said all this, there IS the change that if Texas and Oklahoma, and OK State ever leave the Big 12, UCF, USF, UH, Memphis, and UCONN will be able to join up with the likes of Baylor, Texas Tech, and Kansas, to form what could actually become a true P6 conference. Short of something like this though, and you guys are stuck with the likes of Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, etc., and that means you're stuck in the G5.

So bitter. ECU was actually first school ranked in Cfp poll starting the P6 narrative. There is a reason La Tech is not in AAC and that is lack of value both in fan support and perception. Your team is in arguably the worst sports conference in the country with a tv package that is as bad as any FCS conference.

So your thoughts here while amusing are also given from a place of both desperation and jealousy. The P6 narrative is about branding and perception. And by the way when the schools you mentioned have off years others in the conference will just take their place. You guys won your super bowl against a team in crisis without their coach, congrats. Your still stuck in a black hole.

I like the ECU program, and really hope that Scottie gets them back to a Bowl next year.

(12-22-2017 10:36 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 07:58 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I make a motion that Fan Hoodiego State be restricted from starting threads in the AAC board. He has a clear anti P6 bias and the threads he starts are full of wild conjecture and paranoid delusion.

He may comment on existing threads, but he should be banned from starting his own threads.



The Village Sage has spoken. Ignore ancient wisdom at thy own peril.

Posting statistics is never indicative of bias. I may be bias, but the anger about posting simple win and loss records is silly. Here is another one courtesy of our "friend" Brett McMurphy:

G5 vs G5 in Bowl Games:

C-USA 14-7 (.667)
MWC 9-5 (.643)
Sun Belt 9-7 (.563)
MAC 5-11 (.313)
AAC 2-9 (.182)

G5 vs. Power 5 in bowls:

C-USA 1-1 (.500)
AAC 4-5 (.444)
MWC 2-4 (.333)
MAC 0-3 (.000)
Sun Belt 0-0

*Last 4 years since start of CFBPlayoff thru Thursday

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...1913843712

selection of stats is indeed bias...
im working with some big time banker friends of mine to help me with a work presentation i have

i listed a company had grown 300%..they told me never ever do that. that presentation of stats in a certain manner is manipulative (and for my work, people familiar with how it works might think you are trying to manipulate them)

you posted 1 stat without any context, trying to trash the aac...
context like strength of bowls....or lack of coaches...we have 1 aac coach who has been here more than 2 years, we always lose our coaches before bowls ..i see no one using the big 10 bowl record as an attack on them

also mcmurphy hates the AAC, we have no clue why..this is his 10th tweet attacking the aac in the last 3 months alone..maybe it has something to do with his days as a beat writer for usf

(12-22-2017 10:38 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 07:46 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 06:23 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  The P5 conferences all have a chance at making the playoffs and playing for the national championship. The AAC is not afforded that right. If it were, I'd readily accept the fact that a P6 exists. Until that time, claiming the existence of a "P6" makes you guys look like pathetic wannabes. The P5 ditched you guys just like they did the rest of us.

What the AAC is right now is the top G5 conference, and that is because you have UCF, USF, UH, and Memphis in football, and UCONN in basketball. The rest of your programs like Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, etc., are no better than any other G5 conference programs.

Now, having said all this, there IS the change that if Texas and Oklahoma, and OK State ever leave the Big 12, UCF, USF, UH, Memphis, and UCONN will be able to join up with the likes of Baylor, Texas Tech, and Kansas, to form what could actually become a true P6 conference. Short of something like this though, and you guys are stuck with the likes of Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, etc., and that means you're stuck in the G5.

So bitter. ECU was actually first school ranked in Cfp poll starting the P6 narrative. There is a reason La Tech is not in AAC and that is lack of value both in fan support and perception. Your team is in arguably the worst sports conference in the country with a tv package that is as bad as any FCS conference.

So your thoughts here while amusing are also given from a place of both desperation and jealousy. The P6 narrative is about branding and perception. And by the way when the schools you mentioned have off years others in the conference will just take their place. You guys won your super bowl against a team in crisis without their coach, congrats. Your still stuck in a black hole.

I like the ECU program, and really hope that Scottie gets them back to a Bowl next year.

Honest question, you are Quo right?

(12-22-2017 10:54 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:36 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 07:58 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I make a motion that Fan Hoodiego State be restricted from starting threads in the AAC board. He has a clear anti P6 bias and the threads he starts are full of wild conjecture and paranoid delusion.

He may comment on existing threads, but he should be banned from starting his own threads.



The Village Sage has spoken. Ignore ancient wisdom at thy own peril.

Posting statistics is never indicative of bias. I may be bias, but the anger about posting simple win and loss records is silly. Here is another one courtesy of our "friend" Brett McMurphy:

G5 vs G5 in Bowl Games:

C-USA 14-7 (.667)
MWC 9-5 (.643)
Sun Belt 9-7 (.563)
MAC 5-11 (.313)
AAC 2-9 (.182)

G5 vs. Power 5 in bowls:

C-USA 1-1 (.500)
AAC 4-5 (.444)
MWC 2-4 (.333)
MAC 0-3 (.000)
Sun Belt 0-0

*Last 4 years since start of CFBPlayoff thru Thursday

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...1913843712

selection of stats is indeed bias...
im working with some big time banker friends of mine to help me with a work presentation i have

i listed the a company had grown 300%..they told me never ever do that. that presentation of stats in certian manner is manipulative (and for my work, people familiar with how it works might think you are trying to manipulate them)

you posted 1 stated without any context, trying to trash the aac...
context like strength of bowls....or lack of coaches...we have 1 aac coach who ha been here more than 2 yers, we always lose our coaches before bowl ..i see no one using the big 10 bowl record as an attack on them

also mcmurphy hates the AAC, we have no clue why..this is his 10th tweet attacking the aac in the last 3 months alone..maybe it has something to do with his days as a beat writer for usf

Great post

(12-22-2017 10:38 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 07:46 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 06:23 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  The P5 conferences all have a chance at making the playoffs and playing for the national championship. The AAC is not afforded that right. If it were, I'd readily accept the fact that a P6 exists. Until that time, claiming the existence of a "P6" makes you guys look like pathetic wannabes. The P5 ditched you guys just like they did the rest of us.

What the AAC is right now is the top G5 conference, and that is because you have UCF, USF, UH, and Memphis in football, and UCONN in basketball. The rest of your programs like Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, etc., are no better than any other G5 conference programs.

Now, having said all this, there IS the change that if Texas and Oklahoma, and OK State ever leave the Big 12, UCF, USF, UH, Memphis, and UCONN will be able to join up with the likes of Baylor, Texas Tech, and Kansas, to form what could actually become a true P6 conference. Short of something like this though, and you guys are stuck with the likes of Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, etc., and that means you're stuck in the G5.

So bitter. ECU was actually first school ranked in Cfp poll starting the P6 narrative. There is a reason La Tech is not in AAC and that is lack of value both in fan support and perception. Your team is in arguably the worst sports conference in the country with a tv package that is as bad as any FCS conference.

So your thoughts here while amusing are also given from a place of both desperation and jealousy. The P6 narrative is about branding and perception. And by the way when the schools you mentioned have off years others in the conference will just take their place. You guys won your super bowl against a team in crisis without their coach, congrats. Your still stuck in a black hole.

I like the ECU program, and really hope that Scottie gets them back to a Bowl next year.

I'd like to think SDSU is the ECU of the West coast.

(12-22-2017 10:36 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 07:58 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I make a motion that Fan Hoodiego State be restricted from starting threads in the AAC board. He has a clear anti P6 bias and the threads he starts are full of wild conjecture and paranoid delusion.

He may comment on existing threads, but he should be banned from starting his own threads.



The Village Sage has spoken. Ignore ancient wisdom at thy own peril.

Posting statistics is never indicative of bias. I may be bias, but the anger about posting simple win and loss records is silly. Here is another one courtesy of our "friend" Brett McMurphy:

G5 vs G5 in Bowl Games:

C-USA 14-7 (.667)
MWC 9-5 (.643)
Sun Belt 9-7 (.563)
MAC 5-11 (.313)
AAC 2-9 (.182)

G5 vs. Power 5 in bowls:

C-USA 1-1 (.500)
AAC 4-5 (.444)
MWC 2-4 (.333)
MAC 0-3 (.000)
Sun Belt 0-0

*Last 4 years since start of CFBPlayoff thru Thursday

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...1913843712

A couple three issues with this.
1. The standard McMurphy basic factual error: AAC is actually 4-6 vs fellow P6 in bowls.
2. Seems to omit 2014: Navy >SDSU and Memphis>BYU
I'm not sure if that is standard McMurphy error or choice: I can see omitting BYU game - if the point is conference to conference competition, I get it. And yet, posting 32-15 elicits cackles from fanhood that it doesn't include Independents. So which is it fanhood?
3. Omitting CURRENT AAC member Navy six months before formal entry seems like cherry picking.

(12-21-2017 01:55 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 01:45 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  Hmmm. So in other words the middle tier mediocre AAC teams are about the same level as the slightly better than mediocre CUSA teams.

Tell ya' what - let's have North Texas play Memphis and we'll see what happens. Let's see FAU play USF or UCF and see what happens.

Memphis would kill North Texas. FAU would likely beat USF. UCF and FAU would be a battle.

This may be one of the dumbest posts you've ever posted. Both USF and UCF would annihilate FAU, wouldn't even be a game.

(12-22-2017 01:48 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:36 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 07:58 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I make a motion that Fan Hoodiego State be restricted from starting threads in the AAC board. He has a clear anti P6 bias and the threads he starts are full of wild conjecture and paranoid delusion.

He may comment on existing threads, but he should be banned from starting his own threads.



The Village Sage has spoken. Ignore ancient wisdom at thy own peril.

Posting statistics is never indicative of bias. I may be bias, but the anger about posting simple win and loss records is silly. Here is another one courtesy of our "friend" Brett McMurphy:

G5 vs G5 in Bowl Games:

C-USA 14-7 (.667)
MWC 9-5 (.643)
Sun Belt 9-7 (.563)
MAC 5-11 (.313)
AAC 2-9 (.182)

G5 vs. Power 5 in bowls:

C-USA 1-1 (.500)
AAC 4-5 (.444)
MWC 2-4 (.333)
MAC 0-3 (.000)
Sun Belt 0-0

*Last 4 years since start of CFBPlayoff thru Thursday

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...1913843712

A couple three issues with this.
1. The standard McMurphy basic factual error: AAC is actually 4-6 vs fellow P6 in bowls.
2. Seems to omit 2014: Navy >SDSU and Memphis>BYU
I'm not sure if that is standard McMurphy error or choice: I can see omitting BYU game - if the point is conference to conference competition, I get it. And yet, posting 32-15 elicits cackles from fanhood that it doesn't include Independents. So which is it fanhood?
3. Omitting CURRENT AAC member Navy six months before formal entry seems like cherry picking.

What these numbers show me:

1) we play the g4 too often, but still way less than they play each other. We've played 2/3rds the game of everyone else.

2) we get more bowl games vs other p6 than any g4 and we get up for those games. End of this year we should be over .500 vs other p6 conference none of the g4's has a chance at that this year.

Bowl record of current AAC teams vs other p6 conferences since 2012-2013 through 2016-2017


ACC 4-5
SEC 1-3 (views us as p6, only 2 games vs combined g4)
Big Xii 1-0
PAC 0-1

Overall 7-8 doesn't include University 6 win as AAC member.

P6 records vs g-4 2012-2013 through 2016-2017

SEC 2-0
PAC 9-3
Big 1G 2-1
ACC 2-1
Big Xii 1-1
AAC 1-9

(12-22-2017 11:46 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:38 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 07:46 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 06:23 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  The P5 conferences all have a chance at making the playoffs and playing for the national championship. The AAC is not afforded that right. If it were, I'd readily accept the fact that a P6 exists. Until that time, claiming the existence of a "P6" makes you guys look like pathetic wannabes. The P5 ditched you guys just like they did the rest of us.

What the AAC is right now is the top G5 conference, and that is because you have UCF, USF, UH, and Memphis in football, and UCONN in basketball. The rest of your programs like Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, etc., are no better than any other G5 conference programs.

Now, having said all this, there IS the change that if Texas and Oklahoma, and OK State ever leave the Big 12, UCF, USF, UH, Memphis, and UCONN will be able to join up with the likes of Baylor, Texas Tech, and Kansas, to form what could actually become a true P6 conference. Short of something like this though, and you guys are stuck with the likes of Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, etc., and that means you're stuck in the G5.

So bitter. ECU was actually first school ranked in Cfp poll starting the P6 narrative. There is a reason La Tech is not in AAC and that is lack of value both in fan support and perception. Your team is in arguably the worst sports conference in the country with a tv package that is as bad as any FCS conference.

So your thoughts here while amusing are also given from a place of both desperation and jealousy. The P6 narrative is about branding and perception. And by the way when the schools you mentioned have off years others in the conference will just take their place. You guys won your super bowl against a team in crisis without their coach, congrats. Your still stuck in a black hole.

I like the ECU program, and really hope that Scottie gets them back to a Bowl next year.

I'd like to think SDSU is the ECU of the West coast.

I would have taken that as a compliment in the 90s, and when Skip was your HC. Not so much anymore. I hope ECU turns it around, as the fanbase deserves it. No reason not win there.

(12-22-2017 01:48 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 10:36 AM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 07:58 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I make a motion that Fan Hoodiego State be restricted from starting threads in the AAC board. He has a clear anti P6 bias and the threads he starts are full of wild conjecture and paranoid delusion.

He may comment on existing threads, but he should be banned from starting his own threads.



The Village Sage has spoken. Ignore ancient wisdom at thy own peril.

Posting statistics is never indicative of bias. I may be bias, but the anger about posting simple win and loss records is silly. Here is another one courtesy of our "friend" Brett McMurphy:

G5 vs G5 in Bowl Games:

C-USA 14-7 (.667)
MWC 9-5 (.643)
Sun Belt 9-7 (.563)
MAC 5-11 (.313)
AAC 2-9 (.182)

G5 vs. Power 5 in bowls:

C-USA 1-1 (.500)
AAC 4-5 (.444)
MWC 2-4 (.333)
MAC 0-3 (.000)
Sun Belt 0-0

*Last 4 years since start of CFBPlayoff thru Thursday

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...1913843712

A couple three issues with this.
1. The standard McMurphy basic factual error: AAC is actually 4-6 vs fellow P6 in bowls.
2. Seems to omit 2014: Navy >SDSU and Memphis>BYU
I'm not sure if that is standard McMurphy error or choice: I can see omitting BYU game - if the point is conference to conference competition, I get it. And yet, posting 32-15 elicits cackles from fanhood that it doesn't include Independents. So which is it fanhood?
3. Omitting CURRENT AAC member Navy six months before formal entry seems like cherry picking.

Including wins when the teams were actually in the conference is not cherry picking, it is just factually accurate. Did the AAC have another team in the Final Four in 2013 when Wichita State made it? No, of course not. They were not in the conference.

The BYU omission, I understand what you are saying, thus, they should add that as a win. We agree on that. Indy's like Army, BYU, UMASS, and now Liberty and NMSU should be included.

Cherrypicking is the "30-6" record that conveniently omits almost double digit losses.

Why there is this anger towards me (or McMurphy), I don't understand. I simply posted the stats. Sorry.

(12-21-2017 05:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 01:19 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I think that is 2015-2017, not 4 years. At least for AAC it is. I look forward to adding Navy's wins over SDSU and MTSU to your accounting, plus any others, if you are going farther back.

In that same time period, AAC vs playoff-five conference teams: 3-3

The AAC record is shocking---almost in need of an asterisk. I think thats G5 vs G5 bowl record is more a reflection of the best AAC teams being paired against the P5's leaving the bottom AAC bowl qualifiers in G5 bowls. Add in the dismal record of teams playing without their head coaches/staffs from the season's campaign--and the dismal record becomes a little more understandable. These lower bowl qualifying AAC teams have also been matched up with G5 conference champs an unusual number of times--which probably also contributes to the lopsided win/loss total. All in all--it looks really bad, until you look at how other factors significantly affected the totals. Last year for instance, Houston---a 4th place finisher in the west division drew the MW champion and played them without Herman or most of the staff that prepared the team all year. This year, Houston finished 2nd in the west division and drew the MW runner up. At least we have a coach this time.

Lol, Just last year Tech beat the AAC runner-up ( that played the AAC championship game) in the AF Bowl..... there goes that theory

Tech has more talent (more draft picks than AAC schools) and beats your best teams in bowl games.

Good luck with the Pick 6 branding