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(12-19-2017 03:03 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  give it time and stop supporting a President who obstructs justice

So when are you going to stop defending Obama and start supporting locking Hillary up?
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(12-19-2017 03:12 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  just wait sheeple....................... and don't support people who say to get rid of Mueller.................... Let him do his job.

You folks rush over and over and over again to post these articles and swear that "this is it" yet over and over and over nothing comes of it. And now it's reported after a year of finding nothing that can actually be brought to court, that now it will likely take another year?

Talk about sheeple.
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MUH PUTIN!
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Clapper?

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(12-19-2017 03:24 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  MUH PUTTIN!

Heard a guy screaming that from a bathroom stall the other day. I thought he had some flatulence issues. Good to see I was wrong and he was just suffering from TDS.

.........Not to downplay the sufferings of those afflicted with TDS.
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Yep Putin knows how to handle an asset. And you guys needed a Supreme Court Justice
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(12-19-2017 02:59 PM)dfarr Wrote:  Got any proof other than a political ax to grind? I mean we've been hearing about all this for over a year and still nothing. I didn't even vote for Trump either.

You realize that an investigation has to be completed before we find out what the conclusions are right?
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(12-19-2017 03:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  and you support a pu55y grabbing Putin puppet.

FACT

LOL...with the fact stuff.
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(12-19-2017 03:24 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  MUH PUTTIN!

Ah yes. There's that wonderfully profound discussion again. 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao
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(12-19-2017 03:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 03:24 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  MUH PUTIN!

Ah yes. There's that wonderfully profound discussion again. 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

because your posts are so much more intellectual than MUH PUTIN! 07-coffee3
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(12-19-2017 02:57 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Spy bosses are by nature the most tight-lipped of people. Those who head our intelligence agencies got there in no small part by knowing precisely what to say to whom, when. In recent decades, as the heads of Western intelligence have emerged from the shadows and are expected to make occasional public statements, their utterances are customarily vague, requiring extensive tea-leaf analysis to derive their actual meanings.

Even in retirement, spymasters remain habitually enigmatic, and none has been more so than James Clapper, who is our nation’s most experienced spy boss. He retired as the Director of National Intelligence at the beginning of 2017, after over six years in that job—a record. That capped off a career in our Intelligence Community that lasted more than a half-century and included the directorships of two of our nation’s spy agencies. Nobody knows the IC better than Clapper.
While his career had its ups and downs—you don’t work in any trade for over 50 years without missteps—the former far outweighed the latter. Clapper, a retired Air Force three-star general, is widely respected in national security circles, across partisan lines, as a guy who knows his stuff and focuses on the job. Naturally, he’s exceptionally discreet as well.

That changed yesterday, when Clapper went on CNN to drop an unimaginably large bombshell on President Donald Trump. Since the inauguration in January, Clapper has made a few critical comments regarding the president and his strange ties to Moscow, but these have been largely anodyne. Clapper began showing his hand in September, with a comment that the IC assessment of Russian interference in the 2016 election raised questions about why Trump was in the White House: it “cast doubt on the legitimacy of his victory in the election,” he stated.

At the end of October, in an interview with Politico, Clapper added more about Kremlin interference in the 2016 election: “The Russians have succeeded, I believe, beyond their wildest expectations.” Clapper dismissed President Trump’s repeated attacks on the investigation of his Moscow links as “fake news” with a warning that the Russians “have been emboldened and they will continue to do this.”


Clapper went considerably further yesterday in his appearance on CNN’s The Lead, in which he finally let his top secret mask drop to say what he really thinks about our 45th president:

I think this past weekend is illustrative of what a great case officer Vladimir Putin is. He knows how to handle an asset, and that’s what he’s doing with the president … You have to remember Putin’s background. He’s a KGB officer. That’s what they do. They recruit assets. And I think some of that experience and instincts of Putin has come into play here in his managing of a pretty important account for him, if I could use that term, with our president.

When pressed about what exactly he was saying, Clapper explained that he meant his words “figuratively,” but that barely mitigates the shock value of what he said. To be perfectly clear: America’s most experienced spy boss publicly termed our president an asset—that is, a witting agent—of the Kremlin who is being controlled by Vladimir Putin. Even if meant only “figuratively,” this is the most jaw-dropping statement ever uttered about any American president by any serious commentator.


Besides, there’s not much difference between literally and figuratively when we’re talking about the inhabitant of the Oval Office. If the American president is being controlled or unduly influenced by a country that’s hostile to us, that’s a big deal. This, of course, is precisely what Special Counsel Robert Mueller and his investigation are trying to get to the bottom of—and, not coincidentally, what President Trump and his supporters are trying just as hard to prevent Team Mueller from unraveling.

It needs to be stated that Jim Clapper’s words, while shocking to the public, are utterly uncontroversial in American intelligence circles (or with our spy partners worldwide, for that matter). In our Intelligence Community, it’s widely understood that Donald Trump possesses longstanding ties to the Kremlin which are at best suspect and at worst reflective of an unsettling degree of Russian influence over our commander-in-chief.

Although I’ve been out of the IC for more than a decade, even then it was known in counterintelligence circles that some of Trump’s Kremlin connections were questionable. Although Trump is too psychologically unstable to be a bona fide spy for anybody, that he possessed strange linkages to Moscow was hardly a big secret.


In particular, Trump’s flashy 1987 trip to the Soviet Union – an obvious KGB operation to anyone versed in Chekist matters – led to his becoming an apparent agent of influence for Moscow. That is, a conduit for political favors and information, often in exchange for commercial deals of the sort Trump has always prized. Knowing this, the history of the Trump Organization over the last few decades takes on a different coloration.

What exactly is Donald Trump’s relationship to Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin? It seems likely that nobody outside Moscow knows the full story, and we should expect it will take years of investigation by Team Mueller and the IC to unravel this murky three-decade saga. The well-honed Chekist habit of planting disinformation to throw Western counterspies off course, which already seems to be at work in the Trump investigation, promises to drag this inquiry out even longer. Don’t plan on pleasant answers either.

Regardless, Jim Clapper has done our country a valuable service by stating the plain truth about our president. On CNN, he was speaking for all our intelligence professionals who must remain silent because of the lifetime secrecy oaths they took to join the Intelligence Community. After months of public White House attacks on the IC, which have now escalated into all-out war on America’s spies by Team Trump, there is finally some open pushback by the spooks.

This isn’t the mythical Deep State, which Trumpists detect lurking behind every tree in Washington. This was Jim Clapper, now a private citizen, speaking his mind as a highly experienced intelligence officer. The impact of his words can be fairly assessed as devastating to anyone who’s paying attention. Nor will Clapper be the last former spook to go public with his thoughts on Donald Trump and the Russians.

John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he’s also been a Navy officer and a War College professor. He’s published four books and is on Twitter at @20committee.

SEE ALSO: Intelligence Community Legends Say Putin Is Playing Trump


http://observer.com/2017/12/james-clappe...lin-asset/


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Who cares what Jim Clapper has to say?
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(12-19-2017 03:53 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 03:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  and you support a pu55y grabbing Putin puppet.

FACT

LOL...with the fact stuff.

In his delusional and sick reality it is a fact. One of many he has in his TDS infected mind. Sad to see a man slip into his world, but since the night of Nov. 8 that is what he is consumed by. I can only imagine how much worse it is going to get with the successes of the Trump administration still to come.
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Clapper is a cheap political hack who lied under oath to Congress.
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3 star general
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(12-19-2017 04:23 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  3 star general

Benedict Arnold was a hero before he wasn't.
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(12-19-2017 04:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 04:23 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  3 star general

Benedict Arnold was a hero before he wasn't.

Mach takes two mos. off (self imposed) and come(y)s back more on tilt than before.....

it sucks when the stars align and one isn't shining.....

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Clapper just realized he is in serious trouble with the law.

Same with Holder

Hillary knew that from election night, so she and her henchmen conjured up Russia, which was originally intended to bring down Donald the Candidate.
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(12-19-2017 04:29 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Clapper just realized he is in serious trouble with the law.

Same with Holder

Hillary knew that from election night, so she and her henchmen conjured up Russia, which was originally intended to bring down Donald the Candidate.

squirmy mika, queer joe, and the minions had to go straight back to #muhrussia this a.m.

it really doesn't get any better with a filet knife.....

#finallyexposed
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(12-19-2017 04:23 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  3 star general

So was Michael Flynn.

David Petraeus was a four star.

Doesn't change the fact that just like Clapper their later actions tarnish their reputations.
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