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Friday 7:00 at Scope: Norfolk State (1-11).

Results to date: Auburn (74-102); Lynchburg College (80-83); San Diego (62-71); Grand Canyon (60-85); Robert Morris (53-75); Little Rock (55-70); Kent State (70-79); Bowling Green (77-92); Loyola-Chicago (52-80); Mid-Atlantic Christian (112-34); Niagara (82-85); E Kentucky (66-83).

Last game: Eastern Kentucky went on a 21-3 second-half run and routed the Spartans in Richmond, Ky. EKU shot 53% from the field with five players in double figures and out-rebounded the Spartans by 10 in the game. NSU had four players in double figures, led by Mastadi Pitt (19 pts) and Derrik Jamerson (14).

Stats: 70.3 pts (vs 78.3); .408 FG (.345 3s); .701 FT; -0.4 RB; A/TO= 0.8

Starters (EKU)
F Alex Long (6-8 220 Jr). 25.9 min.; .525 FG; .519 FT; 4.5 RB; 10.7 pts
C Dan Robinson (7-0 220 Sr). 15.5 min. .382 FG; .588 FT; 3.3 RB; 3.0 pts (7 starts)
G Derrik Jamerson (6-5 190 Jr). 23.2 min.; .404 FG (26-71 3s); .000 FT; 3.2 RB; 8.5 pts (4 starts)
G Steven Whitley (6-3 210 So). 29.2 min.; .387 FG (12-36 3s); .792 FT; 5.8 RB; 4.4 assists; 2 steals; 11.7 pts
G Kyle Williams (6-4 185 Sr). 23.3 min.; .388 FG (19-52 3s); .889 FT; 2.9 RB; 7.2 pts (7 starts)

Bench
G Mastadi Pitt (6-1 205 Fr). 24.1 min.; .406 FG (18-47 3s); .758 FT; 1.9 RB; 2 assists; 10.1 pts (6 starts)
G/F Preston Bungei (6-6 200 Sr). 30.9 min.; .440 FG (5-14 3s); 6.8 RB; 2.3 assists; 10.8 pts (9 starts)
C Bryan Gellineau (6-11 245 Sr). 10.6 min.; .438 FG; .500 FT; 2.2 RB; 3.0 pts (5 games)
G Nic Thomas (6-2 185 So). 21.9 min.; .292 FG (8-31 3s); .759 FT; 2.6 RB; 8.0 pts (4 starts)

Team has struggled to find player effective combinations or discover team chemistry. Poor defensively (.489 opponent FG%; .424 3s). Note that their size inside does not translate into points, RBs or blocks.

Here is a radio interview with JJ talking about the NSU game as well as the Fairfield recap.

https://soundcloud.com/espnradio94-1/jef...-17#t=0:00

(12-20-2017 09:09 AM)bigblue78 Wrote:  Friday 7:00 at Scope: Norfolk State (1-11).

Results to date: Auburn (74-102); Lynchburg College (80-83); San Diego (62-71); Grand Canyon (60-85); Robert Morris (53-75); Little Rock (55-70); Kent State (70-79); Bowling Green (77-92); Loyola-Chicago (52-80); Mid-Atlantic Christian (112-34); Niagara (82-85); E Kentucky (66-83).

Last game: Eastern Kentucky went on a 21-3 second-half run and routed the Spartans in Richmond, Ky. EKU shot 53% from the field with five players in double figures and out-rebounded the Spartans by 10 in the game. NSU had four players in double figures, led by Mastadi Pitt (19 pts) and Derrik Jamerson (14).

Stats: 70.3 pts (vs 78.3); .408 FG (.345 3s); .701 FT; -0.4 RB; A/TO= 0.8

Starters (EKU)
F Alex Long (6-8 220 Jr). 25.9 min.; .525 FG; .519 FT; 4.5 RB; 10.7 pts
C Dan Robinson (7-0 220 Sr). 15.5 min. .382 FG; .588 FT; 3.3 RB; 3.0 pts (7 starts)
G Derrik Jamerson (6-5 190 Jr). 23.2 min.; .404 FG (26-71 3s); .000 FT; 3.2 RB; 8.5 pts (4 starts)
G Steven Whitley (6-3 210 So). 29.2 min.; .387 FG (12-36 3s); .792 FT; 5.8 RB; 4.4 assists; 2 steals; 11.7 pts
G Kyle Williams (6-4 185 Sr). 23.3 min.; .388 FG (19-52 3s); .889 FT; 2.9 RB; 7.2 pts (7 starts)

Bench
G Mastadi Pitt (6-1 205 Fr). 24.1 min.; .406 FG (18-47 3s); .758 FT; 1.9 RB; 2 assists; 10.1 pts (6 starts)
G/F Preston Bungei (6-6 200 Sr). 30.9 min.; .440 FG (5-14 3s); 6.8 RB; 2.3 assists; 10.8 pts (9 starts)
C Bryan Gellineau (6-11 245 Sr). 10.6 min.; .438 FG; .500 FT; 2.2 RB; 3.0 pts (5 games)
G Nic Thomas (6-2 185 So). 21.9 min.; .292 FG (8-31 3s); .759 FT; 2.6 RB; 8.0 pts (4 starts)

Team has struggled to find player effective combinations or discover team chemistry. Poor defensively (.489 opponent FG%; .424 3s). Note that their size inside does not translate into points, RBs or blocks.

Wow, I guess after losing 8 straight games they took some frustrations out on whoever the hell Mid-Atlantic Christian is. 112-34?!?! Is that right?

I'm not sure Mid-Atlantic Christian would beat Oscar Smith.

(12-20-2017 10:59 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I'm not sure Mid-Atlantic Christian would beat Oscar Smith.

They’re not even the best college team in Elizabeth City

State also just lost on a buzzer beater three to Niagara. We had best come ready to play because they will be fired up!

(12-20-2017 11:06 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 10:59 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  I'm not sure Mid-Atlantic Christian would beat Oscar Smith.

They’re not even the best college team in Elizabeth City

Ya, I've been by their "campus" before. It's like <200 students. Smaller than most of our middle and high schools.

Harry's take: https://pilotonline.com/sports/columnist...17dda.html

More importantly where is Booman?

I’m glad Jones said this game at the scope will most likely not continue. Although I agree if we’re going to schedule a MEAC team it should be NS. But like every other MEAC team we play, the game should be at the TED. This is a no win game - our RPI will go down regardless of the outcome.

(12-20-2017 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I’m glad Jones said this game at the scope will most likely not continue. Although I agree if we’re going to schedule a MEAC team it should be NS. But like every other MEAC team we play, the game should be at the TED. This is a no win game - our RPI will go down regardless of the outcome.

And now you know why P5's don't schedule us. It's the exact same argument for them.

(12-20-2017 10:45 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I’m glad Jones said this game at the scope will most likely not continue. Although I agree if we’re going to schedule a MEAC team it should be NS. But like every other MEAC team we play, the game should be at the TED. This is a no win game - our RPI will go down regardless of the outcome.

And now you know why P5's don't schedule us. It's the exact same argument for them.

Exactly. We talk down at other programs but P5s do the same to us. Some just don't wanna admit it lol

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(12-20-2017 10:45 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I’m glad Jones said this game at the scope will most likely not continue. Although I agree if we’re going to schedule a MEAC team it should be NS. But like every other MEAC team we play, the game should be at the TED. This is a no win game - our RPI will go down regardless of the outcome.

And now you know why P5's don't schedule us. It's the exact same argument for them.

Not sure i follow your logic. Our RPI is higher than 7 ACC teams. One of which is VA Tech who has played Detroit Mercy, Citadel, Redford and MD Eastern Shore so far this year.

(12-21-2017 09:25 AM)ODU804 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 10:45 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I’m glad Jones said this game at the scope will most likely not continue. Although I agree if we’re going to schedule a MEAC team it should be NS. But like every other MEAC team we play, the game should be at the TED. This is a no win game - our RPI will go down regardless of the outcome.

And now you know why P5's don't schedule us. It's the exact same argument for them.

Not sure i follow your logic. Our RPI is higher than 7 ACC teams. One of which is VA Tech who has played Detroit Mercy, Citadel, Redford and MD Eastern Shore so far this year.

I would say that we have a couple main challenges in scheduling P5 games. One is that we are not looking for cash games on their floor without a return game to the Ted. The other is that we have proven that in some years we are good enough to beat P5 teams but it is admittedly not considered a high quality win for a P5 school to beats us.

(12-21-2017 09:25 AM)ODU804 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 10:45 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I’m glad Jones said this game at the scope will most likely not continue. Although I agree if we’re going to schedule a MEAC team it should be NS. But like every other MEAC team we play, the game should be at the TED. This is a no win game - our RPI will go down regardless of the outcome.

And now you know why P5's don't schedule us. It's the exact same argument for them.

Not sure i follow your logic. Our RPI is higher than 7 ACC teams. One of which is VA Tech who has played Detroit Mercy, Citadel, Redford and MD Eastern Shore so far this year.

I know this is getting into the weeds here but just saying a blanket statement that our RPI is better than 7 ACC teams isn't the argument I'm making. If you are satisfied bringing in Wake Forest or Pitt, so be it. I don't think that's what people are asking for. I realize I said P5's but the argument people are trying to make is to get the quality P5's.

I can flip this around. If our RPI is higher than 7 ACC teams, why would we want to change anything at all? Sounds like our administration gets the formula.

By the way, Lipscomb's (that's an Atlantic Sun team) RPI is 30. Should we aim to schedule them instead?

(12-21-2017 09:25 AM)ODU804 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 10:45 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I’m glad Jones said this game at the scope will most likely not continue. Although I agree if we’re going to schedule a MEAC team it should be NS. But like every other MEAC team we play, the game should be at the TED. This is a no win game - our RPI will go down regardless of the outcome.

And now you know why P5's don't schedule us. It's the exact same argument for them.

Not sure i follow your logic. Our RPI is higher than 7 ACC teams. One of which is VA Tech who has played Detroit Mercy, Citadel, Redford and MD Eastern Shore so far this year.

And by the end of the year, the number of ACC teams our RPI will likely be higher than will be much less than 7, no matter how we perform in conference. It is unlikely we can finish in the top 50 unless we have no more than 2 losses in conference. That is the inherent advantage of the P5. Middling ACC schools can get away with scheduling more cupcakes and make it up by performing at around .500 in conference and get a bid because they play teams like Duke, UNC, Louisville, Syracuse, Notre Dame, and Miami and their RPI goes up in conference. They can afford to lay an egg here and there and they will most definitely get a top 20 team that lays an egg on them, perhaps even on the road, and they get to call it a marquee win.

We are neither a cupcake nor a potential resume game. If we can perform at a top 50 level over several years, we can become a resume game and get more P5 schools willing to play us like they did during the height of BT's era, but as of now, there is no incentive to put us on their schedule.

(12-21-2017 09:44 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 09:25 AM)ODU804 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 10:45 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 08:08 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I’m glad Jones said this game at the scope will most likely not continue. Although I agree if we’re going to schedule a MEAC team it should be NS. But like every other MEAC team we play, the game should be at the TED. This is a no win game - our RPI will go down regardless of the outcome.

And now you know why P5's don't schedule us. It's the exact same argument for them.

Not sure i follow your logic. Our RPI is higher than 7 ACC teams. One of which is VA Tech who has played Detroit Mercy, Citadel, Redford and MD Eastern Shore so far this year.

I know this is getting into the weeds here but just saying a blanket statement that our RPI is better than 7 ACC teams isn't the argument I'm making. If you are satisfied bringing in Wake Forest or Pitt, so be it. I don't think that's what people are asking for. I realize I said P5's but the argument people are trying to make is to get the quality P5's.

I can flip this around. If our RPI is higher than 7 ACC teams, why would we want to change anything at all? Sounds like our administration gets the formula.

By the way, Lipscomb's (that's an Atlantic Sun team) RPI is 30. Should we aim to schedule them instead?

I guess we'll have to disagree on some of this. I would absolutely take Wake, NC State, Boston College or Pitt on a home and home deal. I think we have to be realistic about who we are. The only way we are going to schedule top level P5 games is on a cash game at their place which i would just as soon do without.

(12-21-2017 10:29 AM)ODU804 Wrote:  I guess we'll have to disagree on some of this. I would absolutely take Wake, NC State, Boston College or Pitt on a home and home deal. I think we have to be realistic about who we are. The only way we are going to schedule top level P5 games is on a cash game at their place which i would just as soon do without.

+1

Wake, NCSU, BC, and Pitt would all be great opponents for a home and home with ODU.

Take 'em in a heart beat

P5's don't have to be top tier. In fact winnable lower tier games would be better. Unfortunately these are exactly the teams who don't want to play us.

(12-20-2017 07:40 PM)Beans N Cornbread Wrote:  More importantly where is Booman?

I'm here. To the person that has "been to that place," was it before or after the new floor, seats, and video scoreboard? Lots of upgrades have happened