(12-18-2017 07:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(12-18-2017 06:14 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Why did FBI allow HRC to choose which emails to delete but didn’t afford the Trump transition team the same opportunity?

One investigation was about e-mails. The other involves a traitor working with a foreign government to enrich themselves. I'd have to guess the two would get different colors on the terror alert scale.

We also use a different scale for fact and fiction. The email scandal is real. Russia Russia Russia is not only fake—but it’s increasingly becoming clear that it was a manufactured dossier that allowed a sitting administration to commit Watergate (or better) like surveillance by gaming the intelligence system with a false narrative.

(12-19-2017 03:21 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-18-2017 07:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(12-18-2017 06:14 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Why did FBI allow HRC to choose which emails to delete but didn’t afford the Trump transition team the same opportunity?

One investigation was about e-mails. The other involves a traitor working with a foreign government to enrich themselves. I'd have to guess the two would get different colors on the terror alert scale.

We also use a different scale for fact and fiction. The email scandal is real. Russia Russia Russia is not only fake—but it’s increasingly becoming clear that it was a manufactured dossier that allowed a sitting administration to commit Watergate (or better) like surveillance by gaming the intelligence system with a false narrative.

They can't handle the truth !

I heard the great truth to this story from a legal analyst last night. If this was truly a violation of the law, team trump would have taken this case directly to court. Instead, they took it to Republicans in Congress. Move along folks.

But the funniest part...remember all you saying that it mattered not how the DNC e-mails were obtained because of what they actually said? Chickens coming home to roost?

What did the emails say?

(12-19-2017 10:25 AM)solohawks Wrote:  What did the emails say?

/covfefe

youre also comparing apples to oranges. Wikileaks was an outlaw organization with no power to do anything. Muller is a prosecutor that many on the right and left want to assist in the impeachment and removal from office of the president.

Are you saying Mueller should be held to the same standard as Wikileaks?

(12-19-2017 10:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  youre also comparing apples to oranges. Wikileaks was an outlaw organization with no power to do anything. Muller is a prosecutor that many on the right and left want to assist in the impeachment and removal from office of the president.

Are you saying Mueller should be held to the same standard as Wikileaks?

Mueller shouldn't be held to any standard. He just needs to get the job done.

(12-19-2017 10:41 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  Mueller shouldn't be held to any standard. He just needs to get the job done.

Oooof.

You're going to hate your new rules.

(12-19-2017 09:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I heard the great truth to this story from a legal analyst last night. If this was truly a violation of the law, team trump would have taken this case directly to court. Instead, they took it to Republicans in Congress. Move along folks.

But the funniest part...remember all you saying that it mattered not how the DNC e-mails were obtained because of what they actually said? Chickens coming home to roost?

Both Turley and Dershowitz have said the method in which Meuhller got these emails is a problem, and its a problem Muehller didnt need to create.

Because they interviewed Flynn with the material and did not disclose it to him, Flynn is going to be completely cleared.

This was a kangaroo court. They knew they had nothing on Trump, so they simply did stupid sh*t that they knew would ultimately get tossed by a judge, but they wanted a short term public relations win against Trump.

I think Muehllers team is having a problem with this because his team is used to having unlimited resources, going against a civilian who does not, and they can usually litigate them into the poor house. Trump has the ability to retain a competent legal team, and keep them going, and make the prosecution look like a bunch of embiciles.

(12-19-2017 10:41 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  Mueller shouldn't be held to any standard. He just needs to get the job done.

yeah that's not facist sounding at all.

yikes

(12-19-2017 03:21 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-18-2017 07:53 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(12-18-2017 06:14 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Why did FBI allow HRC to choose which emails to delete but didn’t afford the Trump transition team the same opportunity?

One investigation was about e-mails. The other involves a traitor working with a foreign government to enrich themselves. I'd have to guess the two would get different colors on the terror alert scale.

We also use a different scale for fact and fiction. The email scandal is real. Russia Russia Russia is not only fake—but it’s increasingly becoming clear that it was a manufactured dossier that allowed a sitting administration to commit Watergate (or better) like surveillance by gaming the intelligence system with a false narrative.

So that 19 different people from Russia didn't have contact with members of the Trump team?

That was all made up?

(12-19-2017 11:04 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  So that 19 different people from Russia didn't have contact with members of the Trump team?
That was all made up?

So they had contact with them. What does that prove? Besides nothing?

(12-19-2017 11:20 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 11:04 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  So that 19 different people from Russia didn't have contact with members of the Trump team?
That was all made up?

So they had contact with them. What does that prove? Besides nothing?

You can't be that naive Owl.

(12-19-2017 11:20 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 11:04 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  So that 19 different people from Russia didn't have contact with members of the Trump team?
That was all made up?

So they had contact with them. What does that prove? Besides nothing?

Proves they failed to disclose them on various forms...and in other cases, in sworn testimony to congress...but that means nothing, right?

(12-19-2017 10:45 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 10:41 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  Mueller shouldn't be held to any standard. He just needs to get the job done.

Oooof.

You're going to hate your new rules.

What rules?

(12-19-2017 11:29 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 10:45 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 10:41 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  Mueller shouldn't be held to any standard. He just needs to get the job done.

Oooof.

You're going to hate your new rules.

What rules?

The ones you want to enact against conservative administrations, like how a Special Council shouldn't be held to any standard.

When it's your turn on the dias you won't be so flippant about a Special Council running willy-nilly.

(12-19-2017 11:20 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 11:04 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  So that 19 different people from Russia didn't have contact with members of the Trump team?
That was all made up?

So they had contact with them. What does that prove? Besides nothing?

It proves that the Russia investigation isn't made up and that it's a legitimate investigation into whether or not the Trump administration knowingly or unknowingly were aided in the election.

(12-19-2017 11:48 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 11:20 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 11:04 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  So that 19 different people from Russia didn't have contact with members of the Trump team?
That was all made up?

So they had contact with them. What does that prove? Besides nothing?

It proves that the Russia investigation isn't made up and that it's a legitimate investigation into whether or not the Trump administration knowingly or unknowingly were aided in the election.

No, it doesn't.

(12-16-2017 06:20 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...spartanntp

"...It asked for Congress to act immediately "to protect future presidential transitions from having their private records misappropriated by government agencies, particularly in the context of sensitive investigations intersecting with political motives."
The letter said Mueller's office obtained the emails despite the fact that it was aware the GSA did not own or control the records. It said the special counsel's office has "extensively used the materials in question, including portions that are susceptible to claims of privilege" without notifying the Trump for America team...."

Heard Judge Nap say that the GSA getting the information wasn't actually illegal. The Trump transition team basically agreed to use GSA computers, which by some 1987 law (I think he said 1987), means that federal system could get that information from the GSA, and not have to get it directly from the transition team.

Does it prove anything? Nope, other than the information was not gained illegally, by a law already passed and on the books.

He said it may look fishy, but it was completely legal.

(12-19-2017 12:26 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 06:20 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...spartanntp

"...It asked for Congress to act immediately "to protect future presidential transitions from having their private records misappropriated by government agencies, particularly in the context of sensitive investigations intersecting with political motives."
The letter said Mueller's office obtained the emails despite the fact that it was aware the GSA did not own or control the records. It said the special counsel's office has "extensively used the materials in question, including portions that are susceptible to claims of privilege" without notifying the Trump for America team...."

Heard Judge Nap say that the GSA getting the information wasn't actually illegal. The Trump transition team basically agreed to use GSA computers, which by some 1987 law (I think he said 1987), means that federal system could get that information from the GSA, and not have to get it directly from the transition team.

Does it prove anything? Nope, other than the information was not gained illegally, by a law already passed and on the books.

He said it may look fishy, but it was completely legal.

Me thinks Mueller has mastered the game of 4d chess. These Trump University lawyers are playing uno.