(12-14-2017 01:57 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 06:44 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  Santa was probably our best quarterback overall skill wise but I had heard it from a couple of players that I am know really well who play on the defensive side of the ball they loved seeing Santa in practice because he throws it to the wrong team a lot!

As far as Rodney Hall being the savior of this team at quarterback he is a very dynamic athlete and can run the ball I have been told directly that he cannot throw it at all!! Many of his teammates that I talk to Think he will be moved to another position because he’ll never play a quarterback just what I’ve been told! Never now one off-season with Jordan Lynch and maybe he’ll become Jordan lynch I doubt it but hey I’m trying to be positive LOL

What about Anthony Thompson? Has he looked any good? If Graham is done and Hall gets moved to a different position, that would leave the Huskies pretty thin at QB.

From what the guys a talk to on the team out qbs to start the season in order

Santa
childers
graham
Thompson
hall

these are the same guys I talked with last year that said maddie was the best qb on the team last year as he was being moved to WR LOL !!
So I trust them they catch balls and defend against these guys everyday I think they know !!!

(12-14-2017 01:18 PM)Suptroop Wrote:  Santa was a good player and maybe our best pure passer. Couldn’t run to save his life however. But I’m not going to pretend like I know more than Carey. Childers is a frosh and if you compare childer’s frosh performance to Santa’s frosh performance...it’s pretty obvious who has the higher ceiling.

Of course would not want to see him go, but, if he’s not willing to put in the work, compete and take back what he previously had then he doesn’t have a spot of this team. Wish him the best but not overly saddened by this.

This is a fair statement to a point. However, comparing Santa’s freshman year, which consisted of 6 quarters, to Childers year this season is ridiculous. It is true that Childers runs the offense better, but if you look at Santa’s film he can run but it mostly to avoid pressure/scramble. Athletically, he can run. I would like to think that the decision to leave was a last resort. The fact that he played in mop up time only had to be a clear statement as to where he stood. It’s water under the bridge now.

(12-14-2017 01:57 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 06:44 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  Santa was probably our best quarterback overall skill wise but I had heard it from a couple of players that I am know really well who play on the defensive side of the ball they loved seeing Santa in practice because he throws it to the wrong team a lot!

As far as Rodney Hall being the savior of this team at quarterback he is a very dynamic athlete and can run the ball I have been told directly that he cannot throw it at all!! Many of his teammates that I talk to Think he will be moved to another position because he’ll never play a quarterback just what I’ve been told! Never now one off-season with Jordan Lynch and maybe he’ll become Jordan lynch I doubt it but hey I’m trying to be positive LOL

What about Anthony Thompson? Has he looked any good? If Graham is done and Hall gets moved to a different position, that would leave the Huskies pretty thin at QB.

Yep. Very quickly from THICK to THIN at QB. If Childers gets dinged up in Detroit ( or there's a blowout which is doubtful) Thompson will be the guy.

Frankly, I think Rod will throw him in there for a couple plays just to get him some game action in advance of next year.

So unless there's a JUCO on board soon, we'll be thin (& young) at QB in 2018.

I'm worried about what Randy is saying about hall. I just assumed suck it up this year and move on to 4 years of hall.

(12-14-2017 03:00 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  I'm worried about what Randy is saying about hall. I just assumed suck it up this year and move on to 4 years of hall.

Did you ever watch Hall throw in HS? It wasn't pretty. He was also throwing most of those TD's to the #1 HS WR in the country, Peoples-Jones, who was getting significant snaps at Michigan as a true freshman. I liked the signing of Hall but never viewed him as a quick fix...and he's not even very fast for a mobile/run oriented college QB.

(12-14-2017 03:03 PM)armour248 Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 03:00 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  I'm worried about what Randy is saying about hall. I just assumed suck it up this year and move on to 4 years of hall.

Did you ever watch Hall throw in HS? It wasn't pretty. He was also throwing most of those TD's to the #1 HS WR in the country, Peoples-Jones, who was getting significant snaps at Michigan as a true freshman. I liked the signing of Hall but never viewed him as a quick fix...and he's not even very fast for a mobile/run oriented college QB.

That sucks. I would hate to think our future is Childers. The kid misses bubble screens. Awful

(12-14-2017 02:06 PM)randy6969 Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 01:57 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 06:44 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  Santa was probably our best quarterback overall skill wise but I had heard it from a couple of players that I am know really well who play on the defensive side of the ball they loved seeing Santa in practice because he throws it to the wrong team a lot!

As far as Rodney Hall being the savior of this team at quarterback he is a very dynamic athlete and can run the ball I have been told directly that he cannot throw it at all!! Many of his teammates that I talk to Think he will be moved to another position because he’ll never play a quarterback just what I’ve been told! Never now one off-season with Jordan Lynch and maybe he’ll become Jordan lynch I doubt it but hey I’m trying to be positive LOL

What about Anthony Thompson? Has he looked any good? If Graham is done and Hall gets moved to a different position, that would leave the Huskies pretty thin at QB.

From what the guys a talk to on the team out qbs to start the season in order

Santa
childers
graham
Thompson
hall

these are the same guys I talked with last year that said maddie was the best qb on the team last year as he was being moved to WR LOL !!
So I trust them they catch balls and defend against these guys everyday I think they know !!!

Hmm, that's what I would have guessed, though I didn't really see Thompson and Hall to determine their order.

This thread is a little depressing regarding our QB position going forward, if Hall is not a likely candidate as a starter. How good was Childers' passing in his redshirt year?

(12-14-2017 03:15 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  That sucks. I would hate to think our future is Childers. The kid misses bubble screens. Awful

Someone on here said that they heard Thompson has the best arm of anybody...so who the hell knows. I don't know why we saw so little of Thompson if that's the case though. I still don't understand why he didn't get a few series every game like JL did behind Harnish. It's not like Childers was incredibly effective or doing anything that Thompson couldn't. It seems like Carey's team has done a good job of recruiting and developing talent everywhere except for QB and possibly WR (outside of KG)...although it's hard to judge WR's when your QB can't complete a pass more than 5 yards downfield.

(12-14-2017 05:13 PM)armour248 Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 03:15 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  That sucks. I would hate to think our future is Childers. The kid misses bubble screens. Awful

Someone on here said that they heard Thompson has the best arm of anybody...so who the hell knows. I don't know why we saw so little of Thompson if that's the case though. I still don't understand why he didn't get a few series every game like JL did behind Harnish. It's not like Childers was incredibly effective or doing anything that Thompson couldn't. It seems like Carey's team has done a good job of recruiting and developing talent everywhere except for QB and possibly WR (outside of KG)...although it's hard to judge WR's when your QB can't complete a pass more than 5 yards downfield.

I think his last years class will prove to be great for WR. I love the measurables for the Robinsons and the one from dekalb too.

But Carey is so frustrating. Especially if it's true that Thompson showed a decent arm. Can't be worse than Childers.

(12-14-2017 02:03 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  If people think Hall is the answer for next year, we have some issues. His throwing is probably worse than Childers and we all see how much everyone complained about that on here.

I would really love to see Childers work his ass off all off season and make the jump in progress like we saw each year with Harnish.

My thoughts too. Hall couldn't pass at all last time I watched. However, Santa wasn't accurate in practices either. I like the Childers and Harnish comparison and pray he makes that impressive of a jump next season.

(12-14-2017 06:32 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 02:03 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  If people think Hall is the answer for next year, we have some issues. His throwing is probably worse than Childers and we all see how much everyone complained about that on here.

I would really love to see Childers work his ass off all off season and make the jump in progress like we saw each year with Harnish.

My thoughts too. Hall couldn't pass at all last time I watched. However, Santa wasn't accurate in practices either. I like the Childers and Harnish comparison and pray he makes that impressive of a jump next season.

Childers gets unfairly criticized because he got labeled as the "best fit for the offense". He's really not. Think about the 2 key aspects for a qb to succeed in this offense. Not just do OK, but to really succeed. It's make BIG plays with your feet and your arm. He can't do either. All of these short, sideways passes are to pull the defenses up closer to set up a deep pass or big run up the middle. He's not fast or elusive enough to make big runs. That will never change. And as of now his deep ball is garbage and really hurting the outside wrs and their role in the offense.

This doesn't mean he can't become very good at some point, its just that he won't be all that similar to Lynch or Harnish. Not really even Hare. He's going to have to become a much better passer who can occasionally scramble for a first down if needed.

Give him credit for this, he's got a really good feel for the game. Doesn't panic or make too many mistakes. So in that regard he's pretty far ahead of a lot of QBs at his stage. He just needs to gain accuracy. Quite a bit.

(12-14-2017 02:06 PM)randy6969 Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 01:57 PM)timxlydon Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 06:44 AM)randy6969 Wrote:  Santa was probably our best quarterback overall skill wise but I had heard it from a couple of players that I am know really well who play on the defensive side of the ball they loved seeing Santa in practice because he throws it to the wrong team a lot!

As far as Rodney Hall being the savior of this team at quarterback he is a very dynamic athlete and can run the ball I have been told directly that he cannot throw it at all!! Many of his teammates that I talk to Think he will be moved to another position because he’ll never play a quarterback just what I’ve been told! Never now one off-season with Jordan Lynch and maybe he’ll become Jordan lynch I doubt it but hey I’m trying to be positive LOL

What about Anthony Thompson? Has he looked any good? If Graham is done and Hall gets moved to a different position, that would leave the Huskies pretty thin at QB.

From what the guys a talk to on the team out qbs to start the season in order

Santa
childers
graham
Thompson
hall

these are the same guys I talked with last year that said maddie was the best qb on the team last year as he was being moved to WR LOL !!
So I trust them they catch balls and defend against these guys everyday I think they know !!!

Am I the only one struggling to understand this post?

(12-14-2017 06:32 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 02:03 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  If people think Hall is the answer for next year, we have some issues. His throwing is probably worse than Childers and we all see how much everyone complained about that on here.

I would really love to see Childers work his ass off all off season and make the jump in progress like we saw each year with Harnish.

My thoughts too. Hall couldn't pass at all last time I watched. However, Santa wasn't accurate in practices either. I like the Childers and Harnish comparison and pray he makes that impressive of a jump next season.

I'd prefer that we have that optimism for hall. Childers isn't even a dynamic runner. It sounds like at minimum hall is the most explosive athlete and runner.

(12-14-2017 08:42 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 06:32 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 02:03 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  If people think Hall is the answer for next year, we have some issues. His throwing is probably worse than Childers and we all see how much everyone complained about that on here.

I would really love to see Childers work his ass off all off season and make the jump in progress like we saw each year with Harnish.

My thoughts too. Hall couldn't pass at all last time I watched. However, Santa wasn't accurate in practices either. I like the Childers and Harnish comparison and pray he makes that impressive of a jump next season.

I'd prefer that we have that optimism for hall. Childers isn't even a dynamic runner. It sounds like at minimum hall is the most explosive athlete and runner.

I agree. Remember Jordan Lynch wasn’t allowed to Theo a pass in game until he was a Junior.

(12-14-2017 07:32 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 06:32 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 02:03 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  If people think Hall is the answer for next year, we have some issues. His throwing is probably worse than Childers and we all see how much everyone complained about that on here.

I would really love to see Childers work his ass off all off season and make the jump in progress like we saw each year with Harnish.

My thoughts too. Hall couldn't pass at all last time I watched. However, Santa wasn't accurate in practices either. I like the Childers and Harnish comparison and pray he makes that impressive of a jump next season.

Childers gets unfairly criticized because he got labeled as the "best fit for the offense". He's really not. Think about the 2 key aspects for a qb to succeed in this offense. Not just do OK, but to really succeed. It's make BIG plays with your feet and your arm. He can't do either. All of these short, sideways passes are to pull the defenses up closer to set up a deep pass or big run up the middle. He's not fast or elusive enough to make big runs. That will never change. And as of now his deep ball is garbage and really hurting the outside wrs and their role in the offense.

This doesn't mean he can't become very good at some point, its just that he won't be all that similar to Lynch or Harnish. Not really even Hare. He's going to have to become a much better passer who can occasionally scramble for a first down if needed.

Give him credit for this, he's got a really good feel for the game. Doesn't panic or make too many mistakes. So in that regard he's pretty far ahead of a lot of QBs at his stage. He just needs to gain accuracy. Quite a bit.

If you cannot throw a wide open bubble screen you are panicing or you are so hopeless as a passer that you should not be a starter.

Perhaps he can progress, I sure hope so.

Thank you. I saw several bubble screens that he just spiked. I feel for those receivers . What a waste of talent and depth. I hope guys don't transfer if Childers remains starter.

(12-14-2017 08:50 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 08:42 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 06:32 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 02:03 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  If people think Hall is the answer for next year, we have some issues. His throwing is probably worse than Childers and we all see how much everyone complained about that on here.

I would really love to see Childers work his ass off all off season and make the jump in progress like we saw each year with Harnish.

My thoughts too. Hall couldn't pass at all last time I watched. However, Santa wasn't accurate in practices either. I like the Childers and Harnish comparison and pray he makes that impressive of a jump next season.

I'd prefer that we have that optimism for hall. Childers isn't even a dynamic runner. It sounds like at minimum hall is the most explosive athlete and runner.

I agree. Remember Jordan Lynch wasn’t allowed to Theo a pass in game until he was a Junior.

Lynch attempted a couple. I want to say he even threw once in the 2011 MACC as I think it would catch them off guard

(12-14-2017 09:01 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 07:32 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 06:32 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 02:03 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  If people think Hall is the answer for next year, we have some issues. His throwing is probably worse than Childers and we all see how much everyone complained about that on here.

I would really love to see Childers work his ass off all off season and make the jump in progress like we saw each year with Harnish.

My thoughts too. Hall couldn't pass at all last time I watched. However, Santa wasn't accurate in practices either. I like the Childers and Harnish comparison and pray he makes that impressive of a jump next season.

Childers gets unfairly criticized because he got labeled as the "best fit for the offense". He's really not. Think about the 2 key aspects for a qb to succeed in this offense. Not just do OK, but to really succeed. It's make BIG plays with your feet and your arm. He can't do either. All of these short, sideways passes are to pull the defenses up closer to set up a deep pass or big run up the middle. He's not fast or elusive enough to make big runs. That will never change. And as of now his deep ball is garbage and really hurting the outside wrs and their role in the offense.

This doesn't mean he can't become very good at some point, its just that he won't be all that similar to Lynch or Harnish. Not really even Hare. He's going to have to become a much better passer who can occasionally scramble for a first down if needed.

Give him credit for this, he's got a really good feel for the game. Doesn't panic or make too many mistakes. So in that regard he's pretty far ahead of a lot of QBs at his stage. He just needs to gain accuracy. Quite a bit.

If you cannot throw a wide open bubble screen you are panicing or you are so hopeless as a passer that you should not be a starter.

Perhaps he can progress, I sure hope so.

He wasn't that bad in the short game. He had a completion rate this year of 57%. And thats with missing nearly all of his down field throws. Hare was only at 59% in his first full year. Harnish 55% his first full year. Grahams career is 53%. Even Haldi's career is 55%. I agree Childers should be up over 60% due to the simplified passing attack, but he's accurate enough at this stage of his development.

(12-14-2017 09:48 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 09:01 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 07:32 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 06:32 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 02:03 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  If people think Hall is the answer for next year, we have some issues. His throwing is probably worse than Childers and we all see how much everyone complained about that on here.

I would really love to see Childers work his ass off all off season and make the jump in progress like we saw each year with Harnish.

My thoughts too. Hall couldn't pass at all last time I watched. However, Santa wasn't accurate in practices either. I like the Childers and Harnish comparison and pray he makes that impressive of a jump next season.

Childers gets unfairly criticized because he got labeled as the "best fit for the offense". He's really not. Think about the 2 key aspects for a qb to succeed in this offense. Not just do OK, but to really succeed. It's make BIG plays with your feet and your arm. He can't do either. All of these short, sideways passes are to pull the defenses up closer to set up a deep pass or big run up the middle. He's not fast or elusive enough to make big runs. That will never change. And as of now his deep ball is garbage and really hurting the outside wrs and their role in the offense.

This doesn't mean he can't become very good at some point, its just that he won't be all that similar to Lynch or Harnish. Not really even Hare. He's going to have to become a much better passer who can occasionally scramble for a first down if needed.

Give him credit for this, he's got a really good feel for the game. Doesn't panic or make too many mistakes. So in that regard he's pretty far ahead of a lot of QBs at his stage. He just needs to gain accuracy. Quite a bit.

If you cannot throw a wide open bubble screen you are panicing or you are so hopeless as a passer that you should not be a starter.

Perhaps he can progress, I sure hope so.

He wasn't that bad in the short game. He had a completion rate this year of 57%. And thats with missing nearly all of his down field throws. Hare was only at 59% in his first full year. Harnish 55% his first full year. Grahams career is 53%. Even Haldi's career is 55%. I agree Childers should be up over 60% due to the simplified passing attack, but he's accurate enough at this stage of his development.

I'd rather get behind the 6'2" 220 3* from a hs football factory. Childers is a 6 foot, slow, below average passer, a Justin Fuente hand me down.

(12-14-2017 09:48 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 09:01 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 07:32 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 06:32 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 02:03 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  If people think Hall is the answer for next year, we have some issues. His throwing is probably worse than Childers and we all see how much everyone complained about that on here.

I would really love to see Childers work his ass off all off season and make the jump in progress like we saw each year with Harnish.

My thoughts too. Hall couldn't pass at all last time I watched. However, Santa wasn't accurate in practices either. I like the Childers and Harnish comparison and pray he makes that impressive of a jump next season.

Childers gets unfairly criticized because he got labeled as the "best fit for the offense". He's really not. Think about the 2 key aspects for a qb to succeed in this offense. Not just do OK, but to really succeed. It's make BIG plays with your feet and your arm. He can't do either. All of these short, sideways passes are to pull the defenses up closer to set up a deep pass or big run up the middle. He's not fast or elusive enough to make big runs. That will never change. And as of now his deep ball is garbage and really hurting the outside wrs and their role in the offense.

This doesn't mean he can't become very good at some point, its just that he won't be all that similar to Lynch or Harnish. Not really even Hare. He's going to have to become a much better passer who can occasionally scramble for a first down if needed.

Give him credit for this, he's got a really good feel for the game. Doesn't panic or make too many mistakes. So in that regard he's pretty far ahead of a lot of QBs at his stage. He just needs to gain accuracy. Quite a bit.

If you cannot throw a wide open bubble screen you are panicing or you are so hopeless as a passer that you should not be a starter.

Perhaps he can progress, I sure hope so.

He wasn't that bad in the short game. He had a completion rate this year of 57%. And thats with missing nearly all of his down field throws. Hare was only at 59% in his first full year. Harnish 55% his first full year. Grahams career is 53%. Even Haldi's career is 55%. I agree Childers should be up over 60% due to the simplified passing attack, but he's accurate enough at this stage of his development.

I'd rather get behind the 6'2" 220 3* from a hs football factory. Childers is a 6 foot, slow, below average passer, a Justin Fuente hand me down.