(12-12-2017 06:26 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  She doesn't do anything for me.

That's not Amy, that's Blossom.

At least it looks like it in my opinionation.

Thanks for the suggestion, I just added it to my playlist!

No more academy’s,

(12-12-2017 06:53 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 06:00 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Come on, you know I mean Army.

Well then, go back to the OP and fix (edit) the thread title.

Done

(12-12-2017 06:09 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  Because aac expands for expansions sake. And the next best candidate is southern miss otherwise.

uhhhh that's not correct

Probably because the Army/Navy game in itself is more valuable than any other inventory the AAC may have. The ND v Navy game is pretty valuable. However, the Army v Navy game is the only game on that day.

That said, it would be too difficult to figure out how to implement a conference game a week after the AAC Championship game.

(12-13-2017 07:45 AM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Probably because the Army/Navy game in itself is more valuable than any other inventory the AAC may have. The ND v Navy game is pretty valuable. However, the Army v Navy game is the only game on that day.

That said, it would be too difficult to figure out how to implement a conference game a week after the AAC Championship game.

They are not giving us the Army/Navy game as part of the AAC deal already even when Navy is home. Navy has a special deal with the AAC and I get it really. I think they get like $7 million for that game. So even if we add Army/Navy they would still negotiate to keep all that revenue. So we are going to take a historical bad (last 20 years) team and not get the big revenue kick. I don't see a point unless it was a huge push up on AAC revenue.

Let's just stay at 12 and build. I wish we didn't take Tulsa and that is nothing personally against them. Just too small of a student body and not a big enough fanbase. Limited upside. Anyway, we are picked our 12 and let's stay unless BYU calls.

The Army and Navy game would count in the conference standings, it just wouldn't have any affect on the division title, which would mean Army or Navy could win or lose their division by a half game. This isn't a scenario that would be relevant every season.

(12-13-2017 02:01 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  The Army and Navy game would count in the conference standings, it just wouldn't have any affect on the division title, which would mean Army or Navy could win or lose their division by a half game. This isn't a scenario that would be relevant every season.

Army-Navy would be an OOC game--just as it is now. The two would also play a full 8 game AAC schedule prior to championship Saturday. They would never play one another prior to the traditional Army-Navy game (Sat after Championship Sat) unless they meet in the AAC CCG. Nothing you can do about that--but at least Army-Navy on back to back weekends would be a rarity.

I'd rather add Amy

(12-12-2017 05:07 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I don't see the benefit at all.

Great history and tradition
Great home stadium
National following, just like Navy
Brings fans to away games. Good home game for conf teams
TV loves Army and Navy, no doubt it would help our value to TV
Bowl partners love Army and Navy
If there is ever a split w the P5 they will not leave Army and Navy out. Too many political problems if they tried that.

There are a lot more reasons to add Army. It’s a no brainer

Add Army fb only

VCU or Dayton hoops offset

(12-13-2017 07:47 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Add Army fb only

VCU or Dayton hoops offset

If you're adding Army fb only, you need one more to get to #14. Unless it is BYU or Boise it isn't worth it.

Nothing to offset for hoops if it is football only. I'd still take VCU and Dayton/St. Louis for hoops though.

(12-13-2017 05:05 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  I'd rather add Amy

I am with you. Give me Amy and make Army a partial member that plays 4 games a year vs the conference and is part of the bowl deals. I think that would lock up the military and armed forces bowl next go around which is a solid start.

(12-12-2017 06:06 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  We tried having Army in our conference once. It was awful for them and for the conference.

This^
Army is finally in a great situation. A bowl win over 10-2 SDSU would be the icing on a very big delicious cake and would warrant a top 25 ranking....10-3.
AAC grind would lead to losing seasons and games Army doesn’t want to play anyway....

(12-13-2017 08:23 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 06:06 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  We tried having Army in our conference once. It was awful for them and for the conference.

This^
Army is finally in a great situation. A bowl win over 10-2 SDSU would be the icing on a very big delicious cake and would warrant a top 25 ranking....10-3.
AAC grind would lead to losing seasons and games Army doesn’t want to play anyway....

I agree with you that Army is in a perfect situation, and can now set themselves up for wining seasons with smart strategic scheduling. But come on my friend, West Point has no chance at beating SDSU in the Bowl. Rocky is 14-2 against option teams during his tenure at SDSU.

(12-13-2017 08:44 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 08:23 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 06:06 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  We tried having Army in our conference once. It was awful for them and for the conference.

This^
Army is finally in a great situation. A bowl win over 10-2 SDSU would be the icing on a very big delicious cake and would warrant a top 25 ranking....10-3.
AAC grind would lead to losing seasons and games Army doesn’t want to play anyway....

I agree with you that Army is in a perfect situation, and can now set themselves up for wining seasons with smart strategic scheduling. But come on my friend, West Point has no chance at beating SDSU in the Bowl. Rocky is 14-2 against option teams during his tenure at SDSU.

If Rocky is 14-2 against option teams and Army is an option team, how can you say they have no chance. How good is Rocky against 10-2 option teams? That would be a better gauge of Amy's chances, don't you think?

(12-13-2017 09:14 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 08:44 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 08:23 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 06:06 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  We tried having Army in our conference once. It was awful for them and for the conference.

This^
Army is finally in a great situation. A bowl win over 10-2 SDSU would be the icing on a very big delicious cake and would warrant a top 25 ranking....10-3.
AAC grind would lead to losing seasons and games Army doesn’t want to play anyway....

I agree with you that Army is in a perfect situation, and can now set themselves up for wining seasons with smart strategic scheduling. But come on my friend, West Point has no chance at beating SDSU in the Bowl. Rocky is 14-2 against option teams during his tenure at SDSU.

If Rocky is 14-2 against option teams and Army is an option team, how can you say they have no chance. How good is Rocky against 10-2 option teams? That would be a better gauge of Amy's chances, don't you think?

What's Rocky's record against option teams in bowls?
I know he lost to Navy in '04 and '14.

Even taking fanhood's specific setup - 14-2 while at SDSU - how many of those 14 even had winning records?

(12-13-2017 09:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 09:14 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 08:44 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 08:23 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 06:06 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  We tried having Army in our conference once. It was awful for them and for the conference.

This^
Army is finally in a great situation. A bowl win over 10-2 SDSU would be the icing on a very big delicious cake and would warrant a top 25 ranking....10-3.
AAC grind would lead to losing seasons and games Army doesn’t want to play anyway....

I agree with you that Army is in a perfect situation, and can now set themselves up for wining seasons with smart strategic scheduling. But come on my friend, West Point has no chance at beating SDSU in the Bowl. Rocky is 14-2 against option teams during his tenure at SDSU.

If Rocky is 14-2 against option teams and Army is an option team, how can you say they have no chance. How good is Rocky against 10-2 option teams? That would be a better gauge of Amy's chances, don't you think?

What's Rocky's record against option teams in bowls?
I know he lost to Navy in '04 and '14.

Even taking fanhood's specific setup - 14-2 while at SDSU - how many of those 14 even had winning records?

Lost to Navy once in the Bowl you referenced, and Air Force (when he was the DC). Rocky was not at SDSU in 2004.

In the Navy game, stopping the option was not the issue. We were unable to move the ball. Very bad QB play on our part that year.

(12-13-2017 09:14 PM)fishpro1098 Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 08:44 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 08:23 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 06:06 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  We tried having Army in our conference once. It was awful for them and for the conference.

This^
Army is finally in a great situation. A bowl win over 10-2 SDSU would be the icing on a very big delicious cake and would warrant a top 25 ranking....10-3.
AAC grind would lead to losing seasons and games Army doesn’t want to play anyway....

I agree with you that Army is in a perfect situation, and can now set themselves up for wining seasons with smart strategic scheduling. But come on my friend, West Point has no chance at beating SDSU in the Bowl. Rocky is 14-2 against option teams during his tenure at SDSU.

If Rocky is 14-2 against option teams and Army is an option team, how can you say they have no chance. How good is Rocky against 10-2 option teams? That would be a better gauge of Amy's chances, don't you think?

Seriously, they have no chance. Even if they are able to move the ball, they won't score a lot of points.

Furthermore, they won't be able to stop us on Offense. Spread is SDSU -6.5. I'll take SDSU you take Army. $250?

Edit: actually 15-2. Beat a 9-4 Navy team when he was DC. Beat Air Force six times, when they had records of 9-4, 7-6, 6-7, 2-10, 10-3, 8-6.