Freak play, McIntyre throws a great screen and CSU player bounces off flailing her arm, and smacks Boyd in the face.

Foul #5 on Abshaw.

McIntyre takes a 15 foot jumper? Yes she does and it's goooood!

Boyd is back in, which is great to see.

Sad, sad officiating

58-48 UT at the last media TO. Boyd to the line for 2 when they return.

65-56 UT win. Rockets go to 7-2 on the season

McIntyre with 21 points, 8 boards, 3 assists a steal and a block
Rokkanen 10 points, 1 board, 2 assists and 2 steals.
Jay-Ann 8 points.
Boyd had 5 boards 4 assists and 4 steals

CSU has beaten EMU and Ohio, but lost to BSU - all those games in Cleveland.

Game was driven by all the whistles. Refs seemed to need to call every time a player looked cross-eyed at another. 43 total fouls. Good news is the Rockets shot 16-20 from the line.

Fortunate that Abshaw was in foul trouble the entire game. That certainly took the wind out of CSU's sails.

The overly touchy refs probably hurt Cleveland State more than they hurt us. The first half was more of the frustrating same lack of offense. The second half was better, with some good half-court execution, mostly through McIntyre, and some transition baskets.

I like Rokannen starting. Even though she makes some mistakes, she has some offensive skills that are unique on this team. I wouldn't mind seeing her start at the 4, even though I know that's out of position. We just aren't getting a lot out of St. Fort or Woody, and we need more than one shooter on the floor at all times. Or else try Beacham at the 4.

McIntyre really helps us with her ability and willingness to run the floor. She's also quick enough to get in the passing lanes.

Zaria Wright sure wasn't shy. 1-4 from beyond the arc in just over two minutes of first-half playing time. I thought the last two were in rhythm, but the first two were forced.

(12-09-2017 04:28 PM)Dwight Wrote:  The overly touchy refs probably hurt Cleveland State more than they hurt us. The first half was more of the frustrating same lack of offense. The second half was better, with some good half-court execution, mostly through McIntyre, and some transition baskets.

I like Rokannen starting. Even though she makes some mistakes, she has some offensive skills that are unique on this team. I wouldn't mind seeing her start at the 4, even though I know that's out of position. We just aren't getting a lot out of St. Fort or Woody, and we need more than one shooter on the floor at all times. Or else try Beacham at the 4.

McIntyre really helps us with her ability and willingness to run the floor. She's also quick enough to get in the passing lanes.

Zaria Wright sure wasn't shy. 1-4 from beyond the arc in just over two minutes of first-half playing time. I thought the last two were in rhythm, but the first two were forced.

I am convinced that, as you mention, the offense needs 2 shooters on the floor at all times. That has to mean Santucci gives up minutes. She is shooting 24.8% from the field and 17.4% from 3 point range. And while Rokkanen hit 3s today she actually has the second lowest field goal and 3 point shooting percentage on the team for the season and was only 3/9 today. Woody, on the other had, is shooting 51.5% from the field and team high 47.6% from 3 point range. So why didn't we start Woody? And I would be starting Beacham over St Fort. What little I see of Beacham she shows athletic moves, nice rotation of foul shots, and is a better option for rebounding. So Beacham is averaging 7 minutes/game and St Fort is getting 18 minutes/game. IMO more minutes for Beacham and Woody would add scoring to a team which struggles dramatically on the offensive end Example today - FG % = 42 but FG% without McIntyre"s 9/12 was 32%. That has got to be better. And they had 20 turnovers today. Seem to be sniffing around the 20 mark every game.

17 point lead cut to nine for the final margin. Poor ball handling, passing and decision making by the reserves.

(12-09-2017 09:20 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  17 point lead cut to nine for the final margin. Poor ball handling, passing and decision making by the reserves.

But at least they still won their game.

(12-09-2017 09:20 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  17 point lead cut to nine for the final margin. Poor ball handling, passing and decision making by the reserves.

Three freshmen, an injured junior end-of-bencher and a sophomore for the last couple minutes. You’d like to see some better focus but it was clearly garbage time.

(12-09-2017 09:04 PM)temoxley Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 04:28 PM)Dwight Wrote:  The overly touchy refs probably hurt Cleveland State more than they hurt us. The first half was more of the frustrating same lack of offense. The second half was better, with some good half-court execution, mostly through McIntyre, and some transition baskets.

I like Rokannen starting. Even though she makes some mistakes, she has some offensive skills that are unique on this team. I wouldn't mind seeing her start at the 4, even though I know that's out of position. We just aren't getting a lot out of St. Fort or Woody, and we need more than one shooter on the floor at all times. Or else try Beacham at the 4.

McIntyre really helps us with her ability and willingness to run the floor. She's also quick enough to get in the passing lanes.

Zaria Wright sure wasn't shy. 1-4 from beyond the arc in just over two minutes of first-half playing time. I thought the last two were in rhythm, but the first two were forced.

I am convinced that, as you mention, the offense needs 2 shooters on the floor at all times. That has to mean Santucci gives up minutes. She is shooting 24.8% from the field and 17.4% from 3 point range. And while Rokkanen hit 3s today she actually has the second lowest field goal and 3 point shooting percentage on the team for the season and was only 3/9 today. Woody, on the other had, is shooting 51.5% from the field and team high 47.6% from 3 point range. So why didn't we start Woody? And I would be starting Beacham over St Fort. What little I see of Beacham she shows athletic moves, nice rotation of foul shots, and is a better option for rebounding. So Beacham is averaging 7 minutes/game and St Fort is getting 18 minutes/game. IMO more minutes for Beacham and Woody would add scoring to a team which struggles dramatically on the offensive end Example today - FG % = 42 but FG% without McIntyre"s 9/12 was 32%. That has got to be better. And they had 20 turnovers today. Seem to be sniffing around the 20 mark every game.

I agree with you about Beacham. I'd like to see her get more time. She makes some mistakes, but she has a lot of ability and presumably will improve with experience.

Comparing Woody to Rokkanen, I think that Rokkanen is by far the superior offensive player, despite the stats that you cite. Rokkanen started the season horribly, missing her first 12 three-pointers. She is 9-18 since. Woody can hit a three-pointer only on where she has several feet of space. Her release is low and slow. Rokkanen's release is much higher and quicker, like Jay-Ann's. Also, Rokkanen is a better decision-maker with the basketball. When Woody caught the ball in the high paint against Cleveland State's zone, she had no idea what to do. She traveled once and put up a very tentative shot the other time. Rokkanen is an aggressive and confident offensive player who leads the team in assist to turnover ration (2.0).

(12-12-2017 06:53 AM)Dwight Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 09:04 PM)temoxley Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 04:28 PM)Dwight Wrote:  The overly touchy refs probably hurt Cleveland State more than they hurt us. The first half was more of the frustrating same lack of offense. The second half was better, with some good half-court execution, mostly through McIntyre, and some transition baskets.

I like Rokannen starting. Even though she makes some mistakes, she has some offensive skills that are unique on this team. I wouldn't mind seeing her start at the 4, even though I know that's out of position. We just aren't getting a lot out of St. Fort or Woody, and we need more than one shooter on the floor at all times. Or else try Beacham at the 4.

McIntyre really helps us with her ability and willingness to run the floor. She's also quick enough to get in the passing lanes.

Zaria Wright sure wasn't shy. 1-4 from beyond the arc in just over two minutes of first-half playing time. I thought the last two were in rhythm, but the first two were forced.

I am convinced that, as you mention, the offense needs 2 shooters on the floor at all times. That has to mean Santucci gives up minutes. She is shooting 24.8% from the field and 17.4% from 3 point range. And while Rokkanen hit 3s today she actually has the second lowest field goal and 3 point shooting percentage on the team for the season and was only 3/9 today. Woody, on the other had, is shooting 51.5% from the field and team high 47.6% from 3 point range. So why didn't we start Woody? And I would be starting Beacham over St Fort. What little I see of Beacham she shows athletic moves, nice rotation of foul shots, and is a better option for rebounding. So Beacham is averaging 7 minutes/game and St Fort is getting 18 minutes/game. IMO more minutes for Beacham and Woody would add scoring to a team which struggles dramatically on the offensive end Example today - FG % = 42 but FG% without McIntyre"s 9/12 was 32%. That has got to be better. And they had 20 turnovers today. Seem to be sniffing around the 20 mark every game.

I agree with you about Beacham. I'd like to see her get more time. She makes some mistakes, but she has a lot of ability and presumably will improve with experience.

Comparing Woody to Rokkanen, I think that Rokkanen is by far the superior offensive player, despite the stats that you cite. Rokkanen started the season horribly, missing her first 12 three-pointers. She is 9-18 since. Woody can hit a three-pointer only on where she has several feet of space. Her release is low and slow. Rokkanen's release is much higher and quicker, like Jay-Ann's. Also, Rokkanen is a better decision-maker with the basketball. When Woody caught the ball in the high paint against Cleveland State's zone, she had no idea what to do. She traveled once and put up a very tentative shot the other time. Rokkanen is an aggressive and confident offensive player who leads the team in assist to turnover ration (2.0).

Agree that Rokkanen has more upside. She reminds me a bit of Inma in terms of having a bit of attitude and she sure is fun to watch. Her passes aren't always smart but they are often spectacular. Not sure if Santucci will ever be a consistent scorer and right now we need scorers. Jada does have a weird three point stroke-starts at her waist and almost has a pre-shot windup. But she DOES make them.

(12-12-2017 06:53 AM)Dwight Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 09:04 PM)temoxley Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 04:28 PM)Dwight Wrote:  The overly touchy refs probably hurt Cleveland State more than they hurt us. The first half was more of the frustrating same lack of offense. The second half was better, with some good half-court execution, mostly through McIntyre, and some transition baskets.

I like Rokannen starting. Even though she makes some mistakes, she has some offensive skills that are unique on this team. I wouldn't mind seeing her start at the 4, even though I know that's out of position. We just aren't getting a lot out of St. Fort or Woody, and we need more than one shooter on the floor at all times. Or else try Beacham at the 4.

McIntyre really helps us with her ability and willingness to run the floor. She's also quick enough to get in the passing lanes.

Zaria Wright sure wasn't shy. 1-4 from beyond the arc in just over two minutes of first-half playing time. I thought the last two were in rhythm, but the first two were forced.

I am convinced that, as you mention, the offense needs 2 shooters on the floor at all times. That has to mean Santucci gives up minutes. She is shooting 24.8% from the field and 17.4% from 3 point range. And while Rokkanen hit 3s today she actually has the second lowest field goal and 3 point shooting percentage on the team for the season and was only 3/9 today. Woody, on the other had, is shooting 51.5% from the field and team high 47.6% from 3 point range. So why didn't we start Woody? And I would be starting Beacham over St Fort. What little I see of Beacham she shows athletic moves, nice rotation of foul shots, and is a better option for rebounding. So Beacham is averaging 7 minutes/game and St Fort is getting 18 minutes/game. IMO more minutes for Beacham and Woody would add scoring to a team which struggles dramatically on the offensive end Example today - FG % = 42 but FG% without McIntyre"s 9/12 was 32%. That has got to be better. And they had 20 turnovers today. Seem to be sniffing around the 20 mark every game.

I agree with you about Beacham. I'd like to see her get more time. She makes some mistakes, but she has a lot of ability and presumably will improve with experience.

Comparing Woody to Rokkanen, I think that Rokkanen is by far the superior offensive player, despite the stats that you cite. Rokkanen started the season horribly, missing her first 12 three-pointers. She is 9-18 since. Woody can hit a three-pointer only on where she has several feet of space. Her release is low and slow. Rokkanen's release is much higher and quicker, like Jay-Ann's. Also, Rokkanen is a better decision-maker with the basketball. When Woody caught the ball in the high paint against Cleveland State's zone, she had no idea what to do. She traveled once and put up a very tentative shot the other time. Rokkanen is an aggressive and confident offensive player who leads the team in assist to turnover ration (2.0).

I agree that Rokkanen has better court vision and occasionally makes exceptional passes resulting in assists. She is also more athletic. But I still think that Woody is the better shooter. So for me its not an obvious trade off. Either one, in my opinion, provides more offense than Mariella and should get more minutes than they have been getting before the Cleveland State game. It would appear that coach Cullop agrees with this assessment since she started Rokkanen and Santucci played only 11 minutes in the game (altho that was partly because Santucci quickly got in foul trouble when she did get into the game). Bottom line for me is they need more offense and before Cleveland State they were starting St Fort and Santucci who were getting big minutes while both are not high percentage shooters and not generating significant offense. Mariella is a unique talent I am just not sure they can afford to have two point guards in the game most of the time. Note - Last year Boyd (12.2) and Santucci (7.7) had combined 19.9 points/game. I assumed that they would be even better in their second year. After nine games (nearly 1/3rd of the season Boyd (8.2) and Santucci (5.6) have combined points/game at 13.8. That's 6 points LESS per game. Somebody has to make that up and also recover the 12 pts/game that Monakana brought to the table last year.