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(12-08-2017 02:35 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  Why is Chadwell such a long shot? Who is trying to hire him as an FBS head coach?


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He's a long shot because, from my understanding, he's not interested. I don't know if he was asked and said no or what, but I think he feels like he can get more as far as advancing his career out of his OC job at Coastal than he can out of being the HC at ETSU.
12-09-2017 12:15 AM
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Something good has to happen soon. Dec 20th is only 12 days awsy. Recruits will want to know who their coach is going to be. Since our current staff is who they know and who they have committed to, they want to know if the staff is going to stay or leave.

I guarantee the other schools will use the uncertainty of our coaching staff to damage the Bucs recruiting.
12-09-2017 08:11 AM
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Everyone needs to calm down. A single recruiting class is NOT more valuable than making the right hire for HC. There is almost always attrition within a recruiting class when there is a coaching transition, ETSU fans should prepare themselves.

Scott Carter's job is to play the long game and hire the best man for the job, recruiting timeline be d*mned. Vetting and interviewing coaches takes time. Even if Carter thinks Taylor is the right man for the job (which may or may not be the case) he has a responsibility to not only research and interview outside candidates, but Taylor as well.

I would assume that this move has been in the works for awhile so Carter has likely already done some legwork, but you never know who will be interested in a job until it opens.
12-09-2017 08:31 AM
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(12-09-2017 08:31 AM)BucNut22 Wrote:  Everyone needs to calm down. A single recruiting class is NOT more valuable than making the right hire for HC. There is almost always attrition within a recruiting class when there is a coaching transition, ETSU fans should prepare themselves.

Scott Carter's job is to play the long game and hire the best man for the job, recruiting timeline be d*mned. Vetting and interviewing coaches takes time. Even if Carter thinks Taylor is the right man for the job (which may or may not be the case) he has a responsibility to not only research and interview outside candidates, but Taylor as well.

I would assume that this move has been in the works for awhile so Carter has likely already done some legwork, but you never know who will be interested in a job until it opens.

Have any of the other coaches made any public statements? Contracts? ETSU will owe some money to those not retained by the new HC? There must be recruits in the pipeline — any chatter there? Smart recruits and their families have their bases covered. All in these situations are forced to look out for #1 and not step in #2.
12-09-2017 10:04 AM
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This is a critical coaching hire. Scott Carter simply has to get this right for the long term health and community support of the football program. Scott knew of the decision approximately 2 weeks ago, so I am sure that he has already done a lot of the work toward finding a replacement (or he better have). Carter is a football guy, this should be his strength- his support as an AD is probably on the line here.
12-09-2017 11:24 AM
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It would be hard for me to see how Scott would give it to anyone other than ETSU guy. It was very important to everyone to get ETSU people on the staff once football was brought back, and Scott really feels that’s important.


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The job of restarting the program was not given to an ETSU man. There are only two coaches, Billy Taylor and Mike Rader on the staff that were 'ETSU MEN'.

As far as sacrificing the recruiting class to take extra time to name a coach would be a bad decision. In almost every case of schools hiring a coach, ut was the exception and look at that mess, it is done quickly to minimize loss of recruits and to put a staff in place.

I have been on a search committee and it was not a hard or drawn out process. We had a list of criteria to meet and a list of 10 candidates. It was fairly easy to eliminate the first five candidates. We interviewed the remaining five. It took several hours to eliminate two more candidates. We then presented the final three to the President. Total time for committee to evaluate and present results....5 days. President and AD hired coach next day....6 total days.

Some of the SEC schools hired their HC in 3 days.
12-09-2017 01:09 PM
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The head coach was pretty much selected by Philip Fulmer last time. Also Brumett was a former ETSU PLAYER, that ended up being fired. Scott Carter is an ETSU guy through and through, and I just don’t see him giving it to anyone other than an ETSU ALIGNED person. We will see what happens.


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12-09-2017 01:17 PM
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I like what Scott Carter said when he spoke that our head coaching job is now very desirable. We have a fantastic new stadium with unequaled indoor practice facilities and a solid foundation in place for the next coach. I can understand how many up and coming coaches would want to coach here now. I trust Dr. Noland to hire a great coach who can take us to the next level.
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(12-09-2017 12:00 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  It would be hard for me to see how Scott would give it to anyone other than ETSU guy. It was very important to everyone to get ETSU people on the staff once football was brought back, and Scott really feels that’s important.


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I don’t know. I think he’ll give it to whoever is best. Billy Taylor threw his hat in last time if I remember correctly. And make no mistake, I’ll bet Sander is still involved at least somewhat, as well.
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It has to be Billy Taylor at this point. Has to be. This guy sacrificed so much for ETSU football and he's earned his shot. George Quarles it the George Pitts of ETSU football. I like him, he's been ultra successful, but right now he needs to be an assistant for a little bit longer. Same as Gary Rankin if he were to show interest in moving into college coaching.
Chris Beatty is a no.
Jamey Chadwell would win but we'd better have a damn good compliance staff in place.
I do feel as though Marcus Satterfield needs to be on the next staff in some capacity.
12-09-2017 04:39 PM
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I appreciate the thought process of those of you who feel it should be Coach Taylor or at least someone affiliated with ETSU. And if they are the best person available to us, then that is great. But I think we have to go with the most qualified.

I would think this position is one that many coaches would like to have. It is an opportunity to now put the Bucs in a position to be consistent winners. I hope that we don't let ETSU affiliation become the be all, end all in these discussions. Sure, they can be part of it, and between two equals if one is affiliated with ETSU and the other is not, I think we go with ETSU. I just don't think the search starts off with "it has to be an ETSU guy".
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(12-08-2017 11:43 AM)brock20 Wrote:  https://twitter.com/NET_Pigskin/status/9...1323642880

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Sources close to ETSU alum & Maryland associate HC and “ace recruiter” Chris Beatty said that he is interested in speaking with ETSU, if they enter the search for a new head football coach.

Only problem with Chris, check his coaching stops. He never stays in one place, always moving. I would be a little concerned about this.
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(12-08-2017 01:55 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  Putting a high school coach in charge reeks of the old days of ETSU athletics. I just don’t think that’s gonna happen here. Let the guy get a D2 job somewhere first.


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Remember Quarles is coaching at Furman now.
12-09-2017 09:42 PM
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(12-08-2017 01:55 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  Putting a high school coach in charge reeks of the old days of ETSU athletics. I just don’t think that’s gonna happen here. Let the guy get a D2 job somewhere first.


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Yeah because there are no former high school coaches getting big jobs in the SEC or anything...

Anyone who tries to compare Quarles and Pitts doesn’t really have a clue. There is a reason Furman made him an associate head coach. Since he is already an associate head coach at Furman I am guessing it would be hard to get him here as just offensive coordinator. Would be a huge coup if we could though.
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Promote Taylor to HC. Abraham to DC. O'Cain "retires" and get somebody like Bob Stitt as OC.
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Sensabaugh to DC? No way on earth that this athletics department is going to hire him into that position. We can argue all day about whether or not he was in the "right" at Crockett, but the fact is that no employer in the country (other than a professional athletic team wanting to keep one of its star players) would tolerate his insubordination and ETSU certainly isn't going to bring that to campus.
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Given the recent FCS playoff record of the SoCon, the whole conference needs jacked up a notch or two. Wofford only advanced to the second round by beating a fellow SoCon member, then got murdered yesterday. With the exception of JMU, the MVFC, an all state university league, seems to have taken over FCS football. ETSU is about the same size as the MVFC schools, if that means much, and the new coach would want to try and emulate some of this league’s success. Just saying.
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(12-10-2017 08:40 AM)etsubuc Wrote:  Sensabaugh to DC? No way on earth that this athletics department is going to hire him into that position. We can argue all day about whether or not he was in the "right" at Crockett, but the fact is that no employer in the country (other than a professional athletic team wanting to keep one of its star players) would tolerate his insubordination and ETSU certainly isn't going to bring that to campus.
I meant Donnie Abraham to DC. My head was in the clouds. If anything I would be okay with Sensabaugh to Secondary coach.
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(12-10-2017 11:09 AM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  
(12-10-2017 08:40 AM)etsubuc Wrote:  Sensabaugh to DC? No way on earth that this athletics department is going to hire him into that position. We can argue all day about whether or not he was in the "right" at Crockett, but the fact is that no employer in the country (other than a professional athletic team wanting to keep one of its star players) would tolerate his insubordination and ETSU certainly isn't going to bring that to campus.
I meant Donnie Abraham to DC. My head was in the clouds. If anything I would be okay with Sensabaugh to Secondary coach.

Please no to Sensabaugh. That guy will bring nothing but controversy and trouble to our young program. No thanks.
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