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CFP committee kills off Cinderella
At this time of year, I write my annual "why the CFP is a sham" column. This year, it took a darker turn. LOL. Anyway, just thought I would share it, coming from a mid-major guy in the heart of Big 12 country.

http://www.enidnews.com/sports/local_spo...c4e02.html
12-07-2017 10:01 AM
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Thanks for posting. If you haven't done so already, you might want to post it on the AAC board as well.
12-07-2017 10:42 AM
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Edited because the comment was intended for a different thread!
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12-07-2017 10:45 AM
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RE: CFP committee kills off Cinderella
It's the only sport that I know of that at the beginning of the year there are a chunk of teams that have 0 shot to win a National Championship. The problem is that it's too much of a money grab for those at the top that they frankly don't care.
12-07-2017 11:47 AM
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RE: CFP committee kills off Cinderella
I agree that a playoff that includes all 10 conference champions + X at-larges would be ideal. Maybe you scale back the regular season back down to 11 games to help accommodate the extra time, and physical energy, this would require.

But in its current setup, I'll be the first to admit that WMU didn't belong anywhere near the CFP last year. We landed at #15, right where we should've been.

Same with UCF this year, whose non-conference included FIU, (4-8) Maryland, and Austin Peay (a date with Georgia Tech was cancelled due to the hurricane).

Having lived the season last year, I didn't feel any frustration that we weren't in the CF playoff. Maybe I was too easy to please, but I was fine with the Cotton Bowl. Probably a once in a lifetime experience.
12-07-2017 12:35 PM
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RE: CFP committee kills off Cinderella
G5 schools have tried to put up offers of 3 or 4 million dollars in order for their coaches to stay. But without no access to the playoff it hasn't mattered because they would take less money to go P5.

In basketball there are the Wichita's and the Gonzaga's out there that pay P5 salaries and with NCAA tourney access they're able to build elite programs worthy of Top 10 rankings. There is an ability to be on the scene long term.

G5 should flip the P5 the bird and make their own post season. Do it right with completely objective criteria and none of this committee bs. Create a NFL-AFL situation where some of the great players sign with the G5.
12-07-2017 10:11 PM
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RE: CFP committee kills off Cinderella
I've been an advocate of using a point system that has a schedule component built in and stop it with the subjectivity with the committee.

3 points (victory over winning record>14pts)
2 points (close victory over winning record)
1 points (close loss against winning record)

Applying this to our Top 4 from the CFP...

1. Clemson 20
2. Oklahoma 17
3. Georgia 19
4. Alabama 12
12. Central Florida 13

UCF has more points on schedule than what Alabama did this year and they are in the playoff.

Yes schedule does count for something but its been taken to an extreme level. When you start comparing the very best teams, schedule becomes less of a factor in evaluating because a great team could win on any schedule.

Some of those Boise St teams where they were killing every opponent on the schedule were more than worthy of playoff consideration IMO.
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12-07-2017 11:10 PM
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It is criminal that only in Division 1 FBS football that a team can go undefeated and not have a shot at a national title. Absolutely shameful...
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As an OU fan I know a weak schedule when I see one.

Taking this year for the Bobcats had they gone undefeated at won every game by 30 points this would have been the best they could have offered:

+3 Central Michigan 7-5 (8-4)
+3 Toledo 10-2
+3 Toledo 10-3 (11-2)

+9 points. An undefeated OU on this schedule should be no better than Top 12. Akron would no longer count as points because the would have been 6-6 if OU beat them. This is an example of a schedule that is too weak.

Toledo though had playoff potential if undefeated.

+3 Miami FL 9-3 (10-2)
+3 Central Michigan 8-4
+3 Akron 7-5
+3 Northern Illinois 8-4
+3 Ohio 7-5 (8-4)
+3 Akron 7-5

+18 points. More schedule points than the Oklahoma Sooners and they finished #2 in the CFP. Definitely played a playoff worthy schedule.

Toledo in reality ended up with 11 points this season by pounding the MAC East champ twice in Akron, clobbering CMU and a close victory over NIU. They should have been ranked within the Top 20 of the final CFP poll.

Boise St was ranked #25 in the final CFP poll.

+2 Troy 24-13 (10-2)
+1 Washington St. (9-3) 44-47
+3 San Diego St. (10-2) 31-14
+2 Wyoming (7-5) 24-14
+2 Colorado St. (7-5) 59-52
+2 Fresno St. (9-4) 17-14

12 points. The same as #4 Alabama and #5 Ohio State.

Don't give me the B1G is a tough league when 5-7 Eastern Michigan defeats 4-8 Rutgers 16-13. Strength of schedule just isn't that much of a factor.
12-08-2017 12:42 AM
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I agree that something needs to be done about access to a national title, even if it's just an 8 team playoff with 1 G5 slot.

That "system" you proposed though, Kittonhead, is completely asinine.
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