(12-04-2017 06:07 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  The issue isn't with Purdue, per se, it's that Bowen agreed to let us be a buy game for the first time since 1997? 1998?

And not just any old premier buy game either. We're not going to Columbus or Clemson. We're going to PURDUE. A P5 AD that literally spends less money than ours does.

We've been a buy since then but I'm guessing that's hyperbole. Also Jeff Brohm makes 3.5 million. I know, it stunned me when they signed him for that much.

OK. I can understand the whole buy game thing.

Have we?

When was the last time we played a road game without a home game in the contract? I think it was Michigan State in one of those two years, 1997-98.

I heard it directly & personally from Bowen's lips related to the Purdue game - "...we needed a P5 & we have been unsuccessful in scheduling one for that year, and we have called & talked to everybody...". Also Bowen added, "..the more we win, the harder it is becoming to schedule P-5s H/H". Does that mean Bowen has been ineffective, does it mean he's not getting the required help from Norvell or Rudd, I don't know. I do know we are pretty much scheduled out through 2022, so somebody is doing something, even though it appears weak on the P-5 OOC scheduling. But remember too, more & more the P-5 don't want to schedule G-5s. And the B1G has made it a rule not to allow G5s on the schedule. The P-5 are systematically attempting to shut us out, even though they claim its to make P-5s schedule tougher.

(12-04-2017 06:41 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  I heard it directly & personally from Bowen's lips related to the Purdue game - "...we needed a P5 & we have been unsuccessful in scheduling one for that year, and we have called & talked to everybody...". Also Bowen added, "..the more we win, the harder it is becoming to schedule P-5s H/H". Does that mean Bowen has been ineffective, does it mean he's not getting the required help from Norvell or Rudd, I don't know. I do know we are pretty much scheduled out through 2022, so somebody is doing something, even though it appears weak on the P-5 OOC scheduling. But remember too, more & more the P-5 don't want to schedule GS5. And the B1G has made it a rule not to allow G5s on the schedule. The P-5 are systematically attempting to shut us out, even though they claim its to make P-5s schedule tougher.

I don't think that's accurate. I think that the Big Ten has restricted the number of G fives that each team can schedule per year. I don't think they have outlawed them completely.

That's not true at all.

The Big Ten originally agreed to quit playing FCS games a few years ago, but they've since went back on it and allow those games.

There's no way the Big Ten allows FCS games and has any policy on the books about G5 games.

Big Ten v. MAC September games is a freaking tradition up there.

Re Big 10 teams scheduling FCS opponents, answer is on years where Big 10 team has 4 conference home games, they can schedule an FCS home game: https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...scheduling

"Two years ago, the Big Ten announced a series of new scheduling rules. It jumped from eight conference games to nine, mandated each team play one non-conference Power 5 opponent, and banned its teams from scheduling non-FBS opponents. Signed contracts would be honored, but there’d be no new FCS games joining the slate.

The restriction on FCS scheduling now has a caveat. In years when Big Ten teams have four conference home games out of the nine-game schedule, they can put FCS teams on their schedule . . ."

(12-04-2017 06:52 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 06:41 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  I heard it directly & personally from Bowen's lips related to the Purdue game - "...we needed a P5 & we have been unsuccessful in scheduling one for that year, and we have called & talked to everybody...". Also Bowen added, "..the more we win, the harder it is becoming to schedule P-5s H/H". Does that mean Bowen has been ineffective, does it mean he's not getting the required help from Norvell or Rudd, I don't know. I do know we are pretty much scheduled out through 2022, so somebody is doing something, even though it appears weak on the P-5 OOC scheduling. But remember too, more & more the P-5 don't want to schedule GS5. And the B1G has made it a rule not to allow G5s on the schedule. The P-5 are systematically attempting to shut us out, even though they claim its to make P-5s schedule tougher.

I don't think that's accurate. I think that the Big Ten has restricted the number of G fives that each team can schedule per year. I don't think they have outlawed them completely.

Doesn't change what's happening among the P-5. Point is that the B1G is systematically eliminating scheduling opportunities by simply requiring 9 conference games, and otherwise designating their members play "P5 opponents. This is happening among all the P5 - to lock out G5 & FCS.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2015/10/big-t...-opponent/