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RE: Think Boise State is having regrets?
(12-04-2017 12:32 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 08:58 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Um ... No.

Now if we sign a TV deal worth $8m - $10m a year, like they thought we were getting 5 years ago, then yes.

Way to much travel. Makes no sense unless there is a windfall of cash, which is not the case.

I agree....The Boise State shipped has sailed. Already have 12 teams and it isn't enough money to make them worth the addition to the league.
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If Boise and SDSU were in the AAC, the Las Vegas and Armed Forces bowls would be in the AAC bowl lineup. The AAC would have 5 bowl games this year against P5 opponents.

And the Hawaii bowl would be the MWC's showcase game, playing a 3rd tier AAC opponent.

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Peach: #12 UCF v. #7 Auburn

Tier 1
Liberty: #20 Memphis v. Iowa State
Las Vegas: #25 Boise St. v. Oregon

Tier 2
Military: Navy v. Virginia
Birmingham: South Florida v. Texas Tech
Armed Forces: Houston v. Army

Tier 3
Hawaii: SDSU v. Fresno
Gasparilla: Temple v. FIU
Frisco: SMU v. Wyoming
Cure: unfilled
Potato: unfilled

MWC
Hawaii: Fresno v. SDSU
Frisco: Wyoming v. SMU
New Mexico: CSU v. Marshall
Arizona: Utah St. v. NMSU
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RE: Think Boise State is having regrets?
(12-04-2017 12:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:04 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Lets look at Bowl lineups
AAC
Auburn vs UCF- Access Bowl
Iowa State vs Memphis- Liberty
Virginia vs Navy- Military
Texas Tech vs USF- Bham
Fresno vs Houston- Hawaii
FIU vs Temple- St Pete
LaTech vs SMU- frisco

MWC
Oregon vs Boise-Las Vegas
Houston vs Fresno- Hawaii
Army vs SDSU- Armed Forces
CMU vs Wyoming- Potato
Marshall vs CSU- New Mexico
NMSU vs USU- Arizona

Yes those look comparable. LOL

Who said those are comparable? The AAC has a very good line-up this year.

USF got screwed, but other than that, it looks very good.

its difficult to say screw, when you are a g5 (in the current system) playing a p5

Much like SDSU would not have benefited from beating a 6-6 UCLA P5 program, USF does not benefit from beating a 6-6 P5 Texas Tech program.

IF you beat them, you beat an average team. If you lose to them, you lost to a team that had a losing record in their own conference.
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RE: Think Boise State is having regrets?
(12-04-2017 12:49 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:04 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Lets look at Bowl lineups
AAC
Auburn vs UCF- Access Bowl
Iowa State vs Memphis- Liberty
Virginia vs Navy- Military
Texas Tech vs USF- Bham
Fresno vs Houston- Hawaii
FIU vs Temple- St Pete
LaTech vs SMU- frisco

MWC
Oregon vs Boise-Las Vegas
Houston vs Fresno- Hawaii
Army vs SDSU- Armed Forces
CMU vs Wyoming- Potato
Marshall vs CSU- New Mexico
NMSU vs USU- Arizona

Yes those look comparable. LOL

Who said those are comparable? The AAC has a very good line-up this year.

USF got screwed, but other than that, it looks very good.

its difficult to say screw, when you are a g5 (in the current system) playing a p5

Much like SDSU would not have benefited from beating a 6-6 UCLA P5 program, USF does not benefit from beating a 6-6 P5 Texas Tech program.

IF you beat them, you beat an average team. If you lose to them, you lost to a team that had a losing record in their own conference.

completely disagree...no one remembers record, they remember names...

sdsu beating ucla......ucla would have been put under the belt....

when houston brags about it recent wins we label florida state, ucla, oklahoma, penn state, missippi state, lousiville, texa tech, oklahoma state ....(note 2 of those were actually very bad when we beat them)..no one cares to look up which ones were bad...its a notch on the belt....

ucf still brags about beating bama over a decade later..they dont care that bama wasnt good
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RE: Think Boise State is having regrets?
(12-04-2017 01:31 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:49 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:04 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Lets look at Bowl lineups
AAC
Auburn vs UCF- Access Bowl
Iowa State vs Memphis- Liberty
Virginia vs Navy- Military
Texas Tech vs USF- Bham
Fresno vs Houston- Hawaii
FIU vs Temple- St Pete
LaTech vs SMU- frisco

MWC
Oregon vs Boise-Las Vegas
Houston vs Fresno- Hawaii
Army vs SDSU- Armed Forces
CMU vs Wyoming- Potato
Marshall vs CSU- New Mexico
NMSU vs USU- Arizona

Yes those look comparable. LOL

Who said those are comparable? The AAC has a very good line-up this year.

USF got screwed, but other than that, it looks very good.

its difficult to say screw, when you are a g5 (in the current system) playing a p5

Much like SDSU would not have benefited from beating a 6-6 UCLA P5 program, USF does not benefit from beating a 6-6 P5 Texas Tech program.

IF you beat them, you beat an average team. If you lose to them, you lost to a team that had a losing record in their own conference.

completely disagree...no one remembers record, they remember names...

sdsu beating ucla......ucla would have been put under the belt....

when houston brags about it recent wins we label florida state, ucla, oklahoma, penn state, missippi state, lousiville, texa tech, oklahoma state ....(note 2 of those were actually very bad when we beat them)..no one cares to look up which ones were bad...its a notch on the belt....

ucf still brags about beating bama over a decade later..they dont care that bama wasnt good

Agree to disagree.

SDSU gained a lot from beating a 9-3 Houston team, that had big wins that year. Would not have gained anything from beating a 6-6 Arizona State, which is who we would have played if ASU had beaten Arizona.

Huge distinction from Memphis playing Iowa State (who has great wins this year), and Texas Tech (who doesn't).

If Army was 10-2 or 11-1, I would feel a bit differently about the match-up. Oh well. Texas will be good for recruiting, and we will likely be ranked in both polls if things go our way with a few other games.
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RE: Think Boise State is having regrets?
(12-04-2017 12:49 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:04 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Lets look at Bowl lineups
AAC
Auburn vs UCF- Access Bowl
Iowa State vs Memphis- Liberty
Virginia vs Navy- Military
Texas Tech vs USF- Bham
Fresno vs Houston- Hawaii
FIU vs Temple- St Pete
LaTech vs SMU- frisco

MWC
Oregon vs Boise-Las Vegas
Houston vs Fresno- Hawaii
Army vs SDSU- Armed Forces
CMU vs Wyoming- Potato
Marshall vs CSU- New Mexico
NMSU vs USU- Arizona

Yes those look comparable. LOL

Who said those are comparable? The AAC has a very good line-up this year.

USF got screwed, but other than that, it looks very good.

its difficult to say screw, when you are a g5 (in the current system) playing a p5

Much like SDSU would not have benefited from beating a 6-6 UCLA P5 program, USF does not benefit from beating a 6-6 P5 Texas Tech program.

IF you beat them, you beat an average team. If you lose to them, you lost to a team that had a losing record in their own conference.

USF will benefit more by beating Tech than SDSU beating Army.
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RE: Think Boise State is having regrets?
(12-04-2017 04:04 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:49 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:04 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Lets look at Bowl lineups
AAC
Auburn vs UCF- Access Bowl
Iowa State vs Memphis- Liberty
Virginia vs Navy- Military
Texas Tech vs USF- Bham
Fresno vs Houston- Hawaii
FIU vs Temple- St Pete
LaTech vs SMU- frisco

MWC
Oregon vs Boise-Las Vegas
Houston vs Fresno- Hawaii
Army vs SDSU- Armed Forces
CMU vs Wyoming- Potato
Marshall vs CSU- New Mexico
NMSU vs USU- Arizona

Yes those look comparable. LOL

Who said those are comparable? The AAC has a very good line-up this year.

USF got screwed, but other than that, it looks very good.

its difficult to say screw, when you are a g5 (in the current system) playing a p5

Much like SDSU would not have benefited from beating a 6-6 UCLA P5 program, USF does not benefit from beating a 6-6 P5 Texas Tech program.

IF you beat them, you beat an average team. If you lose to them, you lost to a team that had a losing record in their own conference.

USF will benefit more by beating Tech than SDSU beating Army.

Agree to disagree. Neither benefits. Texas Tech went 3-6 in conference, and Army is Army.

You cannot have it both ways. You cannot claim to want to be considered as one of the big boys, and that your conference is P6 or a High Major, then want credit for beating a team that finished 8th in a 10 team race.

Spin it whatever way you want.
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RE: Think Boise State is having regrets?
(12-04-2017 04:19 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 04:04 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:49 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Who said those are comparable? The AAC has a very good line-up this year.

USF got screwed, but other than that, it looks very good.

its difficult to say screw, when you are a g5 (in the current system) playing a p5

Much like SDSU would not have benefited from beating a 6-6 UCLA P5 program, USF does not benefit from beating a 6-6 P5 Texas Tech program.

IF you beat them, you beat an average team. If you lose to them, you lost to a team that had a losing record in their own conference.

USF will benefit more by beating Tech than SDSU beating Army.

Agree to disagree. Neither benefits. Texas Tech went 3-6 in conference, and Army is Army.

You cannot have it both ways. You cannot claim to want to be considered as one of the big boys, and that your conference is P6 or a High Major, then want credit for beating a team that finished 8th in a 10 team race.

Spin it whatever way you want.

You are the one trying to spin it. If you truly believe that beating Army in a bowl carries as much weight as beating a team from a power league then you really haven’t been paying attention to college football.
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Texas Tech = bowl win over P5 opponent
Army = bowl win

You get a lot more prestige mileage from the first...
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RE: Think Boise State is having regrets?
(12-04-2017 04:19 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 04:04 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:49 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:29 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Who said those are comparable? The AAC has a very good line-up this year.

USF got screwed, but other than that, it looks very good.

its difficult to say screw, when you are a g5 (in the current system) playing a p5

Much like SDSU would not have benefited from beating a 6-6 UCLA P5 program, USF does not benefit from beating a 6-6 P5 Texas Tech program.

IF you beat them, you beat an average team. If you lose to them, you lost to a team that had a losing record in their own conference.

USF will benefit more by beating Tech than SDSU beating Army.

You cannot have it both ways. You cannot claim to want to be considered as one of the big boys, and that your conference is P6 or a High Major, then want credit for beating a team that finished 8th in a 10 team race.

That's not having it both ways. That's having it 1 of the 12 ways that the P5 already has it. If beating up on crappy teams in good conferences wasn't a thing, Alabama wouldn't be in the CFP. They beat 1 .500+ SEC team, and their SEC wins were against teams with a combined league record of 19-37.

Have it both ways, indeed.
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(12-04-2017 04:21 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 04:19 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 04:04 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:49 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  its difficult to say screw, when you are a g5 (in the current system) playing a p5

Much like SDSU would not have benefited from beating a 6-6 UCLA P5 program, USF does not benefit from beating a 6-6 P5 Texas Tech program.

IF you beat them, you beat an average team. If you lose to them, you lost to a team that had a losing record in their own conference.

USF will benefit more by beating Tech than SDSU beating Army.

Agree to disagree. Neither benefits. Texas Tech went 3-6 in conference, and Army is Army.

You cannot have it both ways. You cannot claim to want to be considered as one of the big boys, and that your conference is P6 or a High Major, then want credit for beating a team that finished 8th in a 10 team race.

Spin it whatever way you want.

You are the one trying to spin it. If you truly believe that beating Army in a bowl carries as much weight as beating a team from a power league then you really haven’t been paying attention to college football.

Again, spin. Didn't say that. I said neither carries weight. But good luck anyway.
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(12-04-2017 07:22 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 04:21 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 04:19 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 04:04 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:49 PM)fanhood Wrote:  Much like SDSU would not have benefited from beating a 6-6 UCLA P5 program, USF does not benefit from beating a 6-6 P5 Texas Tech program.

IF you beat them, you beat an average team. If you lose to them, you lost to a team that had a losing record in their own conference.

USF will benefit more by beating Tech than SDSU beating Army.

Agree to disagree. Neither benefits. Texas Tech went 3-6 in conference, and Army is Army.

You cannot have it both ways. You cannot claim to want to be considered as one of the big boys, and that your conference is P6 or a High Major, then want credit for beating a team that finished 8th in a 10 team race.

Spin it whatever way you want.

You are the one trying to spin it. If you truly believe that beating Army in a bowl carries as much weight as beating a team from a power league then you really haven’t been paying attention to college football.

Again, spin. Didn't say that. I said neither carries weight. But good luck anyway.

On here, You will see spin after the bowls. Remember when your team beat Houston last year and almost everyone on here said the win didn't count? Bowls are "exhibition games"? If UCF wins the Peach (which I hope) NO ONE on here will dismiss that as an exhibition game. If Fresno loses to Houston? You will be mocked. If Fresno wins? The game didn't count. The AAC is better than the MWC now but the AAC fans on here can be shockingly dishonest. Save this post for after the bowl games.
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Here is the question ...if Boise and SDST had of been in this conference AND UCF finishes Undefeated would it have mattered for their Ranking?
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(12-04-2017 07:49 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Here is the question ...if Boise and SDST had of been in this conference AND UCF finishes Undefeated would it have mattered for their Ranking?

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(12-04-2017 07:43 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 07:22 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 04:21 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 04:19 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 04:04 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  USF will benefit more by beating Tech than SDSU beating Army.

Agree to disagree. Neither benefits. Texas Tech went 3-6 in conference, and Army is Army.

You cannot have it both ways. You cannot claim to want to be considered as one of the big boys, and that your conference is P6 or a High Major, then want credit for beating a team that finished 8th in a 10 team race.

Spin it whatever way you want.

You are the one trying to spin it. If you truly believe that beating Army in a bowl carries as much weight as beating a team from a power league then you really haven’t been paying attention to college football.

Again, spin. Didn't say that. I said neither carries weight. But good luck anyway.

On here, You will see spin after the bowls. Remember when your team beat Houston last year and almost everyone on here said the win didn't count? Bowls are "exhibition games"? If UCF wins the Peach (which I hope) NO ONE on here will dismiss that as an exhibition game. If Fresno loses to Houston? You will be mocked. If Fresno wins? The game didn't count. The AAC is better than the MWC now but the AAC fans on here can be shockingly dishonest. Save this post for after the bowl games.

Agreed. It is as comical "SEC American" inferences that are seen here, and the "SEC Mountain" comments, that are seen on the MWC Board.

Ahhhhh, message boards.
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(12-04-2017 08:12 PM)SC-KNIGHT Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 07:49 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Here is the question ...if Boise and SDST had of been in this conference AND UCF finishes Undefeated would it have mattered for their Ranking?

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Nope. Wouldn't have mattered. Still G5.
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(12-04-2017 12:51 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 11:19 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 10:18 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Why would they regret anything? They have a great setup and have been to a NY6 bowl in recent years.

Apparently you have not been paying attention... Their success is back when the AAC was in its early baby step stages and while no one thought this league would create equity so quickly.

Well the MAC went to the access last year so there is that. BSU returns 90% of its starters for next year. Should be a good season for the Broncos again. Oky Light,
Troy, BYU, and UCONN ooc.

Niiiiice.... 3 P6 teams OOC. Brave, even if one of them is UCONN...
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The current AAC + Boise State + SDSU = tweener conference in 3-4 years. I think the league would have a shot.
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(12-04-2017 11:55 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  The current AAC + Boise State + SDSU = tweener conference in 3-4 years. I think the league would have a shot.

Like I have always said, show us about $5m-$6m a year, a move Navy to the East, and we are in. Unfortunately, I do not think that the AAC will get those sort of dollars.
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