(12-04-2017 12:45 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  I just have to laugh at this "conspiracy theory" that the world is out to get FAU.

And since no one is even remotely suggesting it, we are not clear what you are laughing at.

(12-03-2017 11:38 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  WKUYG is mostly right. The Liberty ditched CUSA bc they didn't think CUSA was good enough for them anymore. CUSA hasn't been tied to the Liberty for years now. The Liberty recognized how terrible this conference was becoming and got away from it.

Also, it had noting to do with Memphis. This is the first year in Liberty Bowl history that Memphis has ever played in the Liberty.

In short, the Liberty thinks CUSA sux.

Uhm.. that's not quite how I remember hearing about the Liberty Bowl.

The Liberty Bowl loved the C-USA tie-in (Yes, they mostly hoped to get a Memphis team in, but they knew that Louisville, TCU, USM, Cincy, Houston, Tulane, etc. would _travel_ to this game for the most part).

And then came the rumblings that the SEC higher-ups (Mostly from their commissioner, as they had issues playing C-USA teams. (I can't remember if it was Slive or if it started back in Kramer's ending days as SEC commissioner.)

The Liberty Bowl wanted C-USA #1 vs. SEC teams... they knew it was a good draw for the crowds. But they had the tie in with the Big-East... (with SEC for alternates).

So The Liberty Bowl basically gave the Big East slot to the SEC, and then gave the SEC veto power... If the SEC didn't like the team we were sending they could basically tell the Liberty Bowl to pick again.

(Someone claimed that's what actually happened in 2011. but USM fans don't buy that in the slightest...)

And by 2014, we were out of the Liberty Bowl altogether (again, it is said that the SEC (again supposedly, Slive and a couple of high-powered SEC coaches) basically told the LB people.. find someone other than C-USA or we're not renewing our contract with you.). And you don't tell the SEC to go to hell, and expect to survive in college football.

(12-04-2017 01:03 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 11:38 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  WKUYG is mostly right. The Liberty ditched CUSA bc they didn't think CUSA was good enough for them anymore. CUSA hasn't been tied to the Liberty for years now. The Liberty recognized how terrible this conference was becoming and got away from it.

Also, it had noting to do with Memphis. This is the first year in Liberty Bowl history that Memphis has ever played in the Liberty.

In short, the Liberty thinks CUSA sux.

Uhm.. that's not quite how I remember hearing about the Liberty Bowl.

The Liberty Bowl loved the C-USA tie-in (Yes, they mostly hoped to get a Memphis team in, but they knew that Louisville, TCU, USM, Cincy, Houston, Tulane, etc. would _travel_ to this game for the most part).

And then came the rumblings that the SEC higher-ups (Mostly from their commissioner, as they had issues playing C-USA teams. (I can't remember if it was Slive or if it started back in Kramer's ending days as SEC commissioner.)

The Liberty Bowl wanted C-USA #1 vs. SEC teams... they knew it was a good draw for the crowds. But they had the tie in with the Big-East... (with SEC for alternates).

So The Liberty Bowl basically gave the Big East slot to the SEC, and then gave the SEC veto power... If the SEC didn't like the team we were sending they could basically tell the Liberty Bowl to pick again.

(Someone claimed that's what actually happened in 2011. but USM fans don't buy that in the slightest...)

And by 2014, we were out of the Liberty Bowl altogether (again, it is said that the SEC (again supposedly, Slive and a couple of high-powered SEC coaches) basically told the LB people.. find someone other than C-USA or we're not renewing our contract with you.). And you don't tell the SEC to go to hell, and expect to survive in college football.

I buy that theory.

(12-04-2017 12:09 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 10:32 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  So I spoke to my (limited) contacts at FAU and asked why FAU is in this game.

CUSA now considers the Boca Raton Bowl as the PREMIER bowl in its lineup. This is from a location/destination standpoint as well as infrastructure to host teams. Anytime CUSA is slated to be in the line up CUSA wants its conference champion in this game. Hence why FAU is there. FAU administration isn't thrilled with it but their hands were tied. The conference pretty much said, "You're the champs, you're in Boca Bowl". The last minute shuffle to get Akron over Temple was in trying to get the best possible opponent against the CUSA champion. Akron as the MAC runner-up was deemed better then a 6-6 AAC Temple.

So know we know.

Should have switched Toledo for Akron. A Toledo 11-2 vs FAU 10-3, two explosive Offenses, would be a better match up. And Akron with a former Auburn HC would be a better draw in Mobile.

Yeah............. but you're BocaRocket

Liberty Bowl was a huge trophy for CUSA. ECU went two years in a row playing Arkansas and Kentucky. The Bowl was also a great branding tool for the league.

Honesty had Banowsky done his due diligence the league might well have forced the Big East left overs to come to them. Banowsky however was far to willing to accomdate the BCS league overlords and would publicly say that it did not bother him when teams moved on from CUSA.

Would FAU fans have rather played the MAC champion in Detroit Bowl ?

(12-04-2017 11:53 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:32 AM)Ragu Wrote:  It can be a good bowl game for a non fau team if cusa can get a better opponent.
But Florida Atlantic should not play in their home stadium for a bowl game. Crap opponent on top of that and it's a complete slap in the face after a dominant year in conference

That's a dumb statement. The ACC Champion plays the Orange Bowl in UM's home stadium. There's your model right there.

You're really comparing a major bowl like that to the Boca bowl ? For real? And that's a conference standard. We don't have the Boca bowl set as where our champion goes.

And that orange bowl gets a major opponent contractually too

Apples and oranges. Dumb comparison

(12-04-2017 01:11 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Would FAU fans have rather played the MAC champion in Detroit Bowl ?

Hell yeah. A matchup vs Toledo would have been great. I watched the mac title game. Akron sucks

(12-04-2017 12:59 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 12:45 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  I just have to laugh at this "conspiracy theory" that the world is out to get FAU.

And since no one is even remotely suggesting it, we are not clear what you are laughing at.

Agree, I dont think we're thinking its a conspiracy, just a little hard to understand the opponent. While Temple is probably a better "name" then Akron, thier 2017 resume is worse. So in that regard its a good trade. And I agree that if we could of gotten Toldeo the Mac Champion I think there wouldn't of been as loud of an outcry. Mac champ vs CUSA champ has a pedigree ring to it.

Ill never foget the 2008 FAU team going to the Motor City bowl and all the kids getting to goof around in the snow outside the hotel. None of them had ever seen it before. I'm sure thats a memory they will have forever. Thats what I wish the FAU players would of gotten this year some type of experience like that.

I really love Reggie’s posts in here. I apologize for all other Southern Miss fans on you guys having to read his drivel, but I get a lot of laughs with him on here. He actually thinks we would be in better shape going independent and playing all road games against P5 teams. You can’t make this stuff up, go read our board on this sight and get some laughs for yourself...

(12-04-2017 01:11 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Liberty Bowl was a huge trophy for CUSA. ECU went two years in a row playing Arkansas and Kentucky. The Bowl was also a great branding tool for the league.

Honesty had Banowsky done his due diligence the league might well have forced the Big East left overs to come to them. Banowsky however was far to willing to accomdate the BCS league overlords and would publicly say that it did not bother him when teams moved on from CUSA.

It's said that Banowsky knew what the SEC was up to.. and that's why he went out of his way to have the HOD changed to a C-USA vs. Big10/12 matchup (instead of the Big10 - Big12/CUSA matchup already ready to go when the Liberty Bowl and the SEC screwed us over.. he was trying to tell the BCS overlords, without doing it publically that we didn't need to kowtow to the SEC, without saying "f the SEC" (as he also wanted to get the Independence bowl in our pocket as a C-USA/SEC matchup, but couldn't get it to work)

It's one of those moves that have me missing Banowsky and sighing when we get mini-car riding Judy acting like all is well.

(12-04-2017 01:29 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 01:11 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Liberty Bowl was a huge trophy for CUSA. ECU went two years in a row playing Arkansas and Kentucky. The Bowl was also a great branding tool for the league.

Honesty had Banowsky done his due diligence the league might well have forced the Big East left overs to come to them. Banowsky however was far to willing to accomdate the BCS league overlords and would publicly say that it did not bother him when teams moved on from CUSA.

It's said that Banowsky knew what the SEC was up to.. and that's why he went out of his way to have the HOD changed to a C-USA vs. Big10/12 matchup (instead of the Big10 - Big12/CUSA matchup already ready to go when the Liberty Bowl and the SEC screwed us over.. he was trying to tell the BCS overlords, without doing it publically that we didn't need to kowtow to the SEC, without saying "f the SEC" (as he also wanted to get the Independence bowl in our pocket as a C-USA/SEC matchup, but couldn't get it to work)

It's one of those moves that have me missing Banowsky and sighing when we get mini-car riding Judy acting like all is well.

We were never going to keep the Liberty Bowl with the line up that we have now. SEC or not, that just wasn't in the cards. I give credit to Banowsky for trying to develop the HOD and shake my head at Judy for screwing it up. Also at the time that Banowsky had secured the HOD bowl it was a New Years day bowl which IMHO is the Day all Conference Champs should play on NYD.

(12-04-2017 01:11 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:53 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:32 AM)Ragu Wrote:  It can be a good bowl game for a non fau team if cusa can get a better opponent.
But Florida Atlantic should not play in their home stadium for a bowl game. Crap opponent on top of that and it's a complete slap in the face after a dominant year in conference

That's a dumb statement. The ACC Champion plays the Orange Bowl in UM's home stadium. There's your model right there.

You're really comparing a major bowl like that to the Boca bowl ? For real? And that's a conference standard. We don't have the Boca bowl set as where our champion goes.
And that orange bowl gets a major opponent contractually too
Apples and oranges. Dumb comparison

Gott'a walk before you can run.

(12-04-2017 01:21 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  I really love Reggie’s posts in here. I apologize for all other Southern Miss fans on you guys having to read his drivel, but I get a lot of laughs with him on here. He actually thinks we would be in better shape going independent and playing all road games against P5 teams. You can’t make this stuff up, go read our board on this sight and get some laughs for yourself...

Entire threads have been created on more than one message board, specifically making fun of you and and how much of an idiot you are. I didn't create any of them (yet).

(12-03-2017 11:58 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 11:38 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 11:00 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 10:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-03-2017 09:45 PM)TTT Wrote:  People wonder why USM fans are so disgruntled about the state of CUSA, this is one of the many reasons why. We're used to CUSA's champ going to the Liberty Bowl and playing a decent SEC team.

Here's what's really crazy...had USM went 10-3, 11-2, or 12-1...and won CUSA, we'd STILL be playing Florida State in the Independence Bowl. Think about that....haha.

Lets not go acting like any new member in CUSA played a role in CUSA losing that bowl....

The way I see it the Liberty Bowl was lost because the schools in CUSA at that time were looked down on. Not one of the schools added after 2011 played a role in that.

Maybe that should tell you you S. Miss and those left in CUSA in 2010 were not respected? If that wasn't the case then you explain it.

Yes the Liberty bowl after 2005 played a SEC team in that bowl. But don't go acting like it was a top SEC or even a middle of the pack SEC team. Another way to look at it...

Those teams that left S. Miss and the other behind starting in 2006 were the reason CUSA received a the SEC opponent and once Louisville, Cincy and TCU left. The SEC did not see any value in sending their 7th to 10th place team vs CUSA. I believe it followed those schools to the BigEast.

Liberty Bowl followed Memphis. It's that simple.

WKUYG is mostly right. The Liberty ditched CUSA bc they didn't think CUSA was good enough for them anymore. CUSA hasn't been tied to the Liberty for years now. The Liberty recognized how terrible this conference was becoming and got away from it.

Also, it had noting to do with Memphis. This is the first year in Liberty Bowl history that Memphis has ever played in the Liberty.

In short, the Liberty thinks CUSA sux. In that regards, so does Florida State and everyone else in the country, except some people on this message board. But at least Florida State (and the Independence Bowl) knows that USM is the biggest name / brand in CUSA and that's why USM made the Indy this year.

FSU went to the best bowl left they could get and it had nothing to do with S. Miss.

So this guy just goes around making up stuff all day? LOL.

(12-04-2017 10:32 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  So I spoke to my (limited) contacts at FAU and asked why FAU is in this game.

CUSA now considers the Boca Raton Bowl as the PREMIER bowl in its lineup. This is from a location/destination standpoint as well as infrastructure to host teams. Anytime CUSA is slated to be in the line up CUSA wants its conference champion in this game. Hence why FAU is there. FAU administration isn't thrilled with it but their hands were tied. The conference pretty much said, "You're the champs, you're in Boca Bowl". The last minute shuffle to get Akron over Temple was in trying to get the best possible opponent against the CUSA champion. Akron as the MAC runner-up was deemed better then a 6-6 AAC Temple.

So know we know.

You really believe that or did you just make that up? Take a look at the bowl payouts and really think about what you just said / were told.

Come on man!!!

(12-04-2017 07:22 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 01:21 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  I really love Reggie’s posts in here. I apologize for all other Southern Miss fans on you guys having to read his drivel, but I get a lot of laughs with him on here. He actually thinks we would be in better shape going independent and playing all road games against P5 teams. You can’t make this stuff up, go read our board on this sight and get some laughs for yourself...

Entire threads have been created on more than one message board, specifically making fun of you and and how much of an idiot you are. I didn't create any of them (yet).

Now this is something I can agree on....

Mr Tractor salesman is a idiot and a safe space fool and most likely going to see more than a few farmers faces while in hell...going burn burn burn

(12-04-2017 07:29 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 10:32 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  So I spoke to my (limited) contacts at FAU and asked why FAU is in this game.

CUSA now considers the Boca Raton Bowl as the PREMIER bowl in its lineup. This is from a location/destination standpoint as well as infrastructure to host teams. Anytime CUSA is slated to be in the line up CUSA wants its conference champion in this game. Hence why FAU is there. FAU administration isn't thrilled with it but their hands were tied. The conference pretty much said, "You're the champs, you're in Boca Bowl". The last minute shuffle to get Akron over Temple was in trying to get the best possible opponent against the CUSA champion. Akron as the MAC runner-up was deemed better then a 6-6 AAC Temple.

So know we know.

You really believe that or did you just make that up? Take a look at the bowl payouts and really think about what you just said / were told.

Come on man!!!

We have FAU's AD confirming this. On video.

(12-04-2017 08:50 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 07:29 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 10:32 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  So I spoke to my (limited) contacts at FAU and asked why FAU is in this game.

CUSA now considers the Boca Raton Bowl as the PREMIER bowl in its lineup. This is from a location/destination standpoint as well as infrastructure to host teams. Anytime CUSA is slated to be in the line up CUSA wants its conference champion in this game. Hence why FAU is there. FAU administration isn't thrilled with it but their hands were tied. The conference pretty much said, "You're the champs, you're in Boca Bowl". The last minute shuffle to get Akron over Temple was in trying to get the best possible opponent against the CUSA champion. Akron as the MAC runner-up was deemed better then a 6-6 AAC Temple.

So know we know.

You really believe that or did you just make that up? Take a look at the bowl payouts and really think about what you just said / were told.

Come on man!!!

We have FAU's AD confirming this. On video.

he lied

or perhaps is naive and was simply lied to. heart of dallas bowl pays $800k and Boca bowl pays $400k and he's foolish enough to believe the Boca bowl is "premiere". Only one other bowl pays less.

left the link off last post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...bowl_games

(12-04-2017 09:05 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 08:50 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 07:29 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 10:32 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  So I spoke to my (limited) contacts at FAU and asked why FAU is in this game.

CUSA now considers the Boca Raton Bowl as the PREMIER bowl in its lineup. This is from a location/destination standpoint as well as infrastructure to host teams. Anytime CUSA is slated to be in the line up CUSA wants its conference champion in this game. Hence why FAU is there. FAU administration isn't thrilled with it but their hands were tied. The conference pretty much said, "You're the champs, you're in Boca Bowl". The last minute shuffle to get Akron over Temple was in trying to get the best possible opponent against the CUSA champion. Akron as the MAC runner-up was deemed better then a 6-6 AAC Temple.

So know we know.

You really believe that or did you just make that up? Take a look at the bowl payouts and really think about what you just said / were told.

Come on man!!!

We have FAU's AD confirming this. On video.

he lied

or perhaps is naive and was simply lied to. heart of dallas bowl pays $800k and Boca bowl pays $400k and he's foolish enough to believe the Boca bowl is "premiere". Only one other bowl pays less.

left the link off last post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...bowl_games

Bowls don't pay to participating teams only and they do not cover traveling expenses. So, that is irrelevant.

Secondly, Boca Raton Bowl took in C-USA champions already two times before. Out of three seasons. So, at the very least, it is believable that the conference is trying to build it up into the premier bowl.