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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-07-2017 12:36 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 10:02 PM)TTT Wrote:  FAU had about 12k at home for the CUSA champ game. What makes yall think they'll have any more for a bowl home game?

Its sad that they had less then 15K at the game, and well 15K would have been a sad figure too. But that's the reality of the Florida Twins, neither of them draw flies.

(12-03-2017 10:04 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  We did have about 18,000 for the yearly Shula Bowl against FIU. I don't know why we did not get as many for the Conference Championship game.

FAU enrollment: 30,500
FIU enrollment: 55,000
Combined enrollment: 85,500

And you had a whopping 18,000 at a game featuring the 2 schools less than an hour apart. Tell me again besides Florida recruiting what is attractive to either school athletic wise.
What the F*** is attrative about Marshall? Your program is what is and will never grow.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-07-2017 01:08 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 12:36 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 10:02 PM)TTT Wrote:  FAU had about 12k at home for the CUSA champ game. What makes yall think they'll have any more for a bowl home game?

Its sad that they had less then 15K at the game, and well 15K would have been a sad figure too. But that's the reality of the Florida Twins, neither of them draw flies.

(12-03-2017 10:04 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  We did have about 18,000 for the yearly Shula Bowl against FIU. I don't know why we did not get as many for the Conference Championship game.

FAU enrollment: 30,500
FIU enrollment: 55,000
Combined enrollment: 85,500

And you had a whopping 18,000 at a game featuring the 2 schools less than an hour apart. Tell me again besides Florida recruiting what is attractive to either school athletic wise.
What the F*** is attrative about Marshall? Your program is what is and will never grow.

Marshall has what most these smaller market colleges have...... a Football Culture. Same as ECU, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech. You see the major fallacy that destroyed College football is that potential growth doesn't mean actual growth. For years were were told "Markets!!" and "Potential!!" but what we got was a 10 win conference champion that couldn't fill up a third of their own stadium for a Championship game on National TV. When Tech and Marshall played in the Championship game in 2014, the weather was absolutely miserable and yet the stadium had fans spilling into the aisles to watch the game.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-07-2017 02:02 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 01:08 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 12:36 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 10:02 PM)TTT Wrote:  FAU had about 12k at home for the CUSA champ game. What makes yall think they'll have any more for a bowl home game?

Its sad that they had less then 15K at the game, and well 15K would have been a sad figure too. But that's the reality of the Florida Twins, neither of them draw flies.

(12-03-2017 10:04 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  We did have about 18,000 for the yearly Shula Bowl against FIU. I don't know why we did not get as many for the Conference Championship game.

FAU enrollment: 30,500
FIU enrollment: 55,000
Combined enrollment: 85,500

And you had a whopping 18,000 at a game featuring the 2 schools less than an hour apart. Tell me again besides Florida recruiting what is attractive to either school athletic wise.
What the F*** is attrative about Marshall? Your program is what is and will never grow.

Marshall has what most these smaller market colleges have...... a Football Culture. Same as ECU, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech. You see the major fallacy that destroyed College football is that potential growth doesn't mean actual growth. For years were were told "Markets!!" and "Potential!!" but what we got was a 10 win conference champion that couldn't fill up a third of their own stadium for a Championship game on National TV. When Tech and Marshall played in the Championship game in 2014, the weather was absolutely miserable and yet the stadium had fans spilling into the aisles to watch the game.

Since when is 23,711 in a 38k stadium is spilling out the isle? But yet I see you added a excuse...

why is it every other team but the host for the present year can have a...but/excuse
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-07-2017 12:48 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  Markets, Bowl Game, desirable location, multiple major airports, deep pockets, willingness to invest in athletics...But you are right, recruiting and the chance for Marshall to play in front of their players families and recruit targets at every year is the biggest draw.

Attendance will ALWAYS suck at out schools to be honest. Until we are doing what UCF is doing on a regular basis it wont vastly improve. I've said numerous times that you don't erase almost a decade of bad football playing killing attendance with one good season. Hell look at MTSU, they've been close to the top of the heap for the last few years and they had an "off year" (Still bowling) and thier attendance suffered.

Top that off with many other leisure activities abundant in S. Florida you wont get buts in the seats till you are playing at the highest level.

Outstanding post.04-cheers +2
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-07-2017 02:02 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Marshall has what most these smaller market colleges have...... a Football Culture. Same as ECU, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech. You see the major fallacy that destroyed College football is that potential growth doesn't mean actual growth. For years were were told "Markets!!" and "Potential!!" but what we got was a 10 win conference champion that couldn't fill up a third of their own stadium for a Championship game on National TV. When Tech and Marshall played in the Championship game in 2014, the weather was absolutely miserable and yet the stadium had fans spilling into the aisles to watch the game.

i would tend to agree with this and its why those schools are focused on attendance. Attendance is NOT what the large metro schools bring. They bring other things. Attendance is not the end all be all just as markets are not the end all be all. Nebraska is such a HUGE attendance hog for even their spring game because that is what they have to do, Football. I suspect the same can be said of Marshall, LA Tech, and South Miss. Going to football games is what you do, because thats the best most fun, option. Its not the best option in S. Florida unless its a proven winner. Even the Canes struggled till this year.

I will tell you that the noon start for the championship game started off MISERABLE. It was 90+ degrees in a metal stadium. EVERYONE was roasting. More then a few people headed under the stands for shade till the sun got behind the press box. Cold is the bane of the northern schools, for us down here its heat and lighting.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-07-2017 02:30 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 02:02 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Marshall has what most these smaller market colleges have...... a Football Culture. Same as ECU, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech. You see the major fallacy that destroyed College football is that potential growth doesn't mean actual growth. For years were were told "Markets!!" and "Potential!!" but what we got was a 10 win conference champion that couldn't fill up a third of their own stadium for a Championship game on National TV. When Tech and Marshall played in the Championship game in 2014, the weather was absolutely miserable and yet the stadium had fans spilling into the aisles to watch the game.

i would tend to agree with this and its why those schools are focused on attendance. Attendance is NOT what the large metro schools bring. They bring other things. Attendance is not the end all be all just as markets are not the end all be all. Nebraska is such a HUGE attendance hog for even their spring game because that is what they have to do, Football. I suspect the same can be said of Marshall, LA Tech, and South Miss. Going to football games is what you do, because thats the best most fun, option. Its not the best option in S. Florida unless its a proven winner. Even the Canes struggled till this year.

I will tell you that the noon start for the championship game started off MISERABLE. It was 90+ degrees in a metal stadium. EVERYONE was roasting. More then a few people headed under the stands for shade till the sun got behind the press box. Cold is the bane of the northern schools, for us down here its heat and lighting.

The whole "Markets" thing is an illusion. If people didn't bother to go to the game what makes you think there are ten times that willing to turn on the tv. Do you have ratings data to support you claim? There is so much to do in South Florida, I should know. My grandparents lived in Pompano for decades. There is in fact so much to do that folks don't bother staying at home and watching games on tv either. Your argument is that Marshall is as good as its ever gonna be which may or may not be true, but the idea that your potential is so great that we should look far past all of your inequities as a program is baffling.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-07-2017 12:48 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 12:36 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  And you had a whopping 18,000 at a game featuring the 2 schools less than an hour apart. Tell me again besides Florida recruiting what is attractive to either school athletic wise.

Markets, Bowl Game, desirable location, multiple major airports, deep pockets, willingness to invest in athletics...But you are right, recruiting and the chance for Marshall to play in front of their players families and recruit targets at every year is the biggest draw.

Attendance will ALWAYS suck at out schools to be honest. Until we are doing what UCF is doing on a regular basis it wont vastly improve. I've said numerous times that you don't erase almost a decade of bad football playing killing attendance with one good season. Hell look at MTSU, they've been close to the top of the heap for the last few years and they had an "off year" (Still bowling) and thier attendance suffered.

Top that off with many other leisure activities abundant in S. Florida you wont get buts in the seats till you are playing at the highest level.

All that hot air and you still bring nothing to the conference athletically. Most likely 85-90% who go to the Florida Twins don't care if they play sports or not. My guess is most of those 85K are making up the attendance at Miami, Florida or Florida State each Sat.

What does Marshall bring, not much, just a culture of winning most years that's all. And most of our greatest players came from other places besides Florida. Chad Pennington, Tennessee, Troy Brown, South Carolina, Byron Leftwich, DC, Ahmad Bradshaw, Virginia, Devin Johnson, Virginia, Ryan Yuracheck, South Carolina, and Randy Moss, West Virginia.

Also Ive never said to myself, I'm not going to go to an away football game since they don't have other things to do in the imed. area. If that was a criteria then no one would show up in Clemson, South Carolina, Blacksburg, VA, Morgantown, West Virginia or Fayetteville, Arkansas.

If I'm going to an away game, I'm most likely either going back home the same day or I'm leaving the next morning depending on the time of the game.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-07-2017 02:12 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 02:02 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 01:08 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 12:36 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 10:02 PM)TTT Wrote:  FAU had about 12k at home for the CUSA champ game. What makes yall think they'll have any more for a bowl home game?

Its sad that they had less then 15K at the game, and well 15K would have been a sad figure too. But that's the reality of the Florida Twins, neither of them draw flies.

(12-03-2017 10:04 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  We did have about 18,000 for the yearly Shula Bowl against FIU. I don't know why we did not get as many for the Conference Championship game.

FAU enrollment: 30,500
FIU enrollment: 55,000
Combined enrollment: 85,500

And you had a whopping 18,000 at a game featuring the 2 schools less than an hour apart. Tell me again besides Florida recruiting what is attractive to either school athletic wise.
What the F*** is attrative about Marshall? Your program is what is and will never grow.

Marshall has what most these smaller market colleges have...... a Football Culture. Same as ECU, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech. You see the major fallacy that destroyed College football is that potential growth doesn't mean actual growth. For years were were told "Markets!!" and "Potential!!" but what we got was a 10 win conference champion that couldn't fill up a third of their own stadium for a Championship game on National TV. When Tech and Marshall played in the Championship game in 2014, the weather was absolutely miserable and yet the stadium had fans spilling into the aisles to watch the game.

Since when is 23,711 in a 38k stadium is spilling out the isle? But yet I see you added a excuse...

why is it every other team but the host for the present year can have a...but/excuse
I am so tired of this attendance debate because everywhere in every conference and in every school except for about 25 of them.
Getting more attendance helps schools get more income. FAU has some of the highest prices in the conference the lodges and suits and access to our acura longe all pull in tons of money.
Are we like any other G5 school and need every dime we can get? Of course! But it baffles how a school that has been playing football for decades has a larger athletic budget.

FAU has had full undergrad since only 1988 we don't have the 100 years Alumi base who would have watched football like you guys do.

We have the top 1or 2 nicest stadiums in conference, highest paid coach, have had a top 3 recruiting class 3 of the last 4 years, and just went 9-0 in this conference only playing one game under 15 points.
So we have enough to dominate the conference.

I am glad USM,La Tech and Marshall can sell some more tickets at the local Piggly Wiggly for 5 bucks a pop to a community that has had a program for generations longer.
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(12-07-2017 02:53 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  The whole "Markets" thing is an illusion. If people didn't bother to go to the game what makes you think there are ten times that willing to turn on the tv. Do you have ratings data to support you claim? There is so much to do in South Florida, I should know. My grandparents lived in Pompano for decades. There is in fact so much to do that folks don't bother staying at home and watching games on tv either. Your argument is that Marshall is as good as its ever gonna be which may or may not be true, but the idea that your potential is so great that we should look far past all of your inequities as a program is baffling.

I don't think Florida Atlantic's potential is greater then that of Marshall, or LA Tech or any of the schools in CUSA to be frank. Each institution brings its own strengths and weakness. I tout market over attendance, you do the reverse. You bash us for no one showing up, we bash you for not having anything else to do but go to games.

NONE OF US ARE ANY BETTER THEN THE OTHERS. That's all I'm saying. All our institutions have their share of issues in different areas. The only tangible proof of one school being better then another is on the Field, Court, or Diamond. This year FAU was fortunate to have the best football team in the conference. You'll kick our arses in basketball, and Baseball maybe a wash.
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(12-07-2017 04:48 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 02:53 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  The whole "Markets" thing is an illusion. If people didn't bother to go to the game what makes you think there are ten times that willing to turn on the tv. Do you have ratings data to support you claim? There is so much to do in South Florida, I should know. My grandparents lived in Pompano for decades. There is in fact so much to do that folks don't bother staying at home and watching games on tv either. Your argument is that Marshall is as good as its ever gonna be which may or may not be true, but the idea that your potential is so great that we should look far past all of your inequities as a program is baffling.

I don't think Florida Atlantic's potential is greater then that of Marshall, or LA Tech or any of the schools in CUSA to be frank. Each institution brings its own strengths and weakness. I tout market over attendance, you do the reverse. You bash us for no one showing up, we bash you for not having anything else to do but go to games.

NONE OF US ARE ANY BETTER THEN THE OTHERS. That's all I'm saying. All our institutions have their share of issues in different areas. The only tangible proof of one school being better then another is on the Field, Court, or Diamond. This year FAU was fortunate to have the best football team in the conference. You'll kick our arses in basketball, and Baseball maybe a wash.

No, I disagree. We are better than you and so is Marshall, UAB, Southern Miss, North Texas, Rice and so on. You can scream potential all you want, but I guarantee you this. Your potential will never fully develop as long as you got no fans in the stands. I congratulate you on a championship season! You earned it, but your are still light years from us. We have more Conference Championships than you have years of football.
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Touched on here a bit by Pilot.... and he is right, we may never have the guaranteed fan base. And we are a new school to football, and relatively a new school in general, we don't have decades of traditions so we don't have the huge fan base.

Secondly it is South Florida... 365 days to go out and do whatever, beach, dining, clubs, etc... We are not in a small college town in a corn field with the highlight of the week, going to a college game! South Florida fans are fickle at EVERY level... Dolphins, Heat, Marlins, Panthers, & Hurricanes.... if the team is not winning, there are other things to do.

We will always have to face that no matter what, but you build a winning team, and they will come!
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(12-08-2017 08:14 AM)SCowl Wrote:  Touched on here a bit by Pilot.... and he is right, we may never have the guaranteed fan base. And we are a new school to football, and relatively a new school in general, we don't have decades of traditions so we don't have the huge fan base.

Secondly it is South Florida... 365 days to go out and do whatever, beach, dining, clubs, etc... We are not in a small college town in a corn field with the highlight of the week, going to a college game! South Florida fans are fickle at EVERY level... Dolphins, Heat, Marlins, Panthers, & Hurricanes.... if the team is not winning, there are other things to do.

We will always have to face that no matter what, but you build a winning team, and they will come!

I was a Marlins fan as a kid. Went to their first spring training game at Homestead FL in 93. Wayne Huizenga poured money into the Marlins and by 97 they were world champions. The problem was nobody cared. Same thing with the Hurricanes. If they arent winning 10 to 11 games nobody cares and its a crying shame.
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It's not that no one cares. Something else is in play here: the transitional nature of population here. It's never more poignant as in the stands of the Florida Panthers game: half of the fans are wearing opposite team's gear. Not through any fault of the Panthers. If you were a lifelong fan of the New York Rangers (for example), there is no way you will care about the Nashville Predators play the Panthers at the BB&T Arena. We will develop our local fan bases. Unfortunately, it will take a total replacement of the local population. Kids being born today will have a better chance to become life long Florida Panthers fans. Same with the FAU Owls fans.
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(12-07-2017 04:09 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 02:12 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 02:02 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 01:08 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 12:36 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Its sad that they had less then 15K at the game, and well 15K would have been a sad figure too. But that's the reality of the Florida Twins, neither of them draw flies.


FAU enrollment: 30,500
FIU enrollment: 55,000
Combined enrollment: 85,500

And you had a whopping 18,000 at a game featuring the 2 schools less than an hour apart. Tell me again besides Florida recruiting what is attractive to either school athletic wise.
What the F*** is attrative about Marshall? Your program is what is and will never grow.

Marshall has what most these smaller market colleges have...... a Football Culture. Same as ECU, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech. You see the major fallacy that destroyed College football is that potential growth doesn't mean actual growth. For years were were told "Markets!!" and "Potential!!" but what we got was a 10 win conference champion that couldn't fill up a third of their own stadium for a Championship game on National TV. When Tech and Marshall played in the Championship game in 2014, the weather was absolutely miserable and yet the stadium had fans spilling into the aisles to watch the game.

Since when is 23,711 in a 38k stadium is spilling out the isle? But yet I see you added a excuse...

why is it every other team but the host for the present year can have a...but/excuse
I am so tired of this attendance debate because everywhere in every conference and in every school except for about 25 of them.
Getting more attendance helps schools get more income. FAU has some of the highest prices in the conference the lodges and suits and access to our acura longe all pull in tons of money.
Are we like any other G5 school and need every dime we can get? Of course! But it baffles how a school that has been playing football for decades has a larger athletic budget.

FAU has had full undergrad since only 1988 we don't have the 100 years Alumi base who would have watched football like you guys do.

We have the top 1or 2 nicest stadiums in conference, highest paid coach, have had a top 3 recruiting class 3 of the last 4 years, and just went 9-0 in this conference only playing one game under 15 points.
So we have enough to dominate the conference.

I am glad USM,La Tech and Marshall can sell some more tickets at the local Piggly Wiggly for 5 bucks a pop to a community that has had a program for generations longer.

True. When I was an FAU frosh, in 1992, this was only the 4th fulltime undergrad class at our school. The Atmosphere was totally different from what it is today. Athletics were largely an afterthought. We were a Div. II school and almost no one, including me, could name a single basketball player for our program. But, as I grew as a person, the school grew with me. Things have certainly changed. By the time I got my Master's in 2000, there were football practices going on and the school joined the Div. I and more than doubled in size.

There is future at FAU. The growth potential is almost infinite. Marshall and similar schools do not have nearly the potential of the two Florida schools in the C-USA. UCF and USF are where FIU and FAU are headed. And, with strong administration we will get there. MTSU, WKU, Marshall are where they will always be, incremental growth notwithstanding.
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(12-09-2017 12:17 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
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(12-07-2017 01:08 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  What the F*** is attrative about Marshall? Your program is what is and will never grow.

Marshall has what most these smaller market colleges have...... a Football Culture. Same as ECU, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech. You see the major fallacy that destroyed College football is that potential growth doesn't mean actual growth. For years were were told "Markets!!" and "Potential!!" but what we got was a 10 win conference champion that couldn't fill up a third of their own stadium for a Championship game on National TV. When Tech and Marshall played in the Championship game in 2014, the weather was absolutely miserable and yet the stadium had fans spilling into the aisles to watch the game.

Since when is 23,711 in a 38k stadium is spilling out the isle? But yet I see you added a excuse...

why is it every other team but the host for the present year can have a...but/excuse
I am so tired of this attendance debate because everywhere in every conference and in every school except for about 25 of them.
Getting more attendance helps schools get more income. FAU has some of the highest prices in the conference the lodges and suits and access to our acura longe all pull in tons of money.
Are we like any other G5 school and need every dime we can get? Of course! But it baffles how a school that has been playing football for decades has a larger athletic budget.

FAU has had full undergrad since only 1988 we don't have the 100 years Alumi base who would have watched football like you guys do.

We have the top 1or 2 nicest stadiums in conference, highest paid coach, have had a top 3 recruiting class 3 of the last 4 years, and just went 9-0 in this conference only playing one game under 15 points.
So we have enough to dominate the conference.

I am glad USM,La Tech and Marshall can sell some more tickets at the local Piggly Wiggly for 5 bucks a pop to a community that has had a program for generations longer.

True. When I was an FAU frosh, in 1992, this was only the 4th fulltime undergrad class at our school. The Atmosphere was totally different from what it is today. Athletics were largely an afterthought. We were a Div. II school and almost no one, including me, could name a single basketball player for our program. But, as I grew as a person, the school grew with me. Things have certainly changed. By the time I got my Master's in 2000, there were football practices going on and the school joined the Div. I and more than doubled in size.

There is future at FAU. The growth potential is almost infinite. Marshall and similar schools do not have nearly the potential of the two Florida schools in the C-USA. UCF and USF are where FIU and FAU are headed. And, with strong administration we will get there. MTSU, WKU, Marshall are where they will always be, incremental growth notwithstanding.

Really ? So no room for growth at MT and WKU when we live (along with parts of Texas) in one of the growingest areas in the nation ? Droves of out-of-work Floridians moving here.

Also, do you pay any attention to hoops ? I guess not.............being from FAU, and all
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(12-09-2017 01:13 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  
(12-09-2017 12:17 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 04:09 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 02:12 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 02:02 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Marshall has what most these smaller market colleges have...... a Football Culture. Same as ECU, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech. You see the major fallacy that destroyed College football is that potential growth doesn't mean actual growth. For years were were told "Markets!!" and "Potential!!" but what we got was a 10 win conference champion that couldn't fill up a third of their own stadium for a Championship game on National TV. When Tech and Marshall played in the Championship game in 2014, the weather was absolutely miserable and yet the stadium had fans spilling into the aisles to watch the game.

Since when is 23,711 in a 38k stadium is spilling out the isle? But yet I see you added a excuse...

why is it every other team but the host for the present year can have a...but/excuse
I am so tired of this attendance debate because everywhere in every conference and in every school except for about 25 of them.
Getting more attendance helps schools get more income. FAU has some of the highest prices in the conference the lodges and suits and access to our acura longe all pull in tons of money.
Are we like any other G5 school and need every dime we can get? Of course! But it baffles how a school that has been playing football for decades has a larger athletic budget.

FAU has had full undergrad since only 1988 we don't have the 100 years Alumi base who would have watched football like you guys do.

We have the top 1or 2 nicest stadiums in conference, highest paid coach, have had a top 3 recruiting class 3 of the last 4 years, and just went 9-0 in this conference only playing one game under 15 points.
So we have enough to dominate the conference.

I am glad USM,La Tech and Marshall can sell some more tickets at the local Piggly Wiggly for 5 bucks a pop to a community that has had a program for generations longer.

True. When I was an FAU frosh, in 1992, this was only the 4th fulltime undergrad class at our school. The Atmosphere was totally different from what it is today. Athletics were largely an afterthought. We were a Div. II school and almost no one, including me, could name a single basketball player for our program. But, as I grew as a person, the school grew with me. Things have certainly changed. By the time I got my Master's in 2000, there were football practices going on and the school joined the Div. I and more than doubled in size.

There is future at FAU. The growth potential is almost infinite. Marshall and similar schools do not have nearly the potential of the two Florida schools in the C-USA. UCF and USF are where FIU and FAU are headed. And, with strong administration we will get there. MTSU, WKU, Marshall are where they will always be, incremental growth notwithstanding.

Really ? So no room for growth at MT and WKU when we live (along with parts of Texas) in one of the growingest areas in the nation ? Droves of out-of-work Floridians moving here.

Also, do you pay any attention to hoops ? I guess not.............being from FAU, and all

Do they live in one of the most populous counties in the country? Are they experiencing the astounding growth both in enrollment and in endowments that both FIU and FAU have undergone in the last 20-25 years? Are they also positioned in some of the richest counties of the country (such as Miami-Dade and Palm Beach)? Are they in the middle of the hotbed of the highschool football such as South Florida?

And, by the way, the population of the three South Florida Counties (Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade) virtually exploded in the last 25 years.
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