(12-03-2017 04:25 PM)msm96wolf Wrote: (12-03-2017 02:04 PM)johnbragg Wrote: At the end of the contract, yes. PAC, XII and now B1G have all tasted the humiliation of being left out. I don't think ACC has, but I'm too busy to google right now.
If UCF wins, that makes the case for the G5 Access Bowl spot to convert to an autobid.
It amazes me how people still don't get how this system works. G5 is for teams who don't have a CONTRACTUAL TIE-IN to Orange, Rose, Sugar or Fiesta. It has nothing to do with auto bids. The Orange, Sugar and Rose are in place for 8 more years.
It amazes me how people don't read the first sentence.
Ahem.
At the end of the contract, yes. Ahem.
At the end of the current contract, all the details of the current contract expire and are subject to new negotiations between the conferences, the bowls, the networks and to some extent the NCAA itself (the NCAA has to approve the extra game).
If you don't call the New Years Six spot reserved for the top ranking champion of the G5 conferences an "autobid", I'm curious as to what you DO call it.
And while technically, the autobids are currently based on who has a contractual tie-in, that is something of a fiction. When the Big East was a recognized equal of the current P5 conferences, they were guaranteed a bid somewhere in a BCS game. When the current system was evolving, there was an initial announcement that there would be no autobids! Everything is earned!
Powerful actors did not like that idea. IF you think the Big Ten is red-faced today, imagine how the PAC would react if USC were left out of the 8 team playoff entirely, left licking their wounds in the Rose Bowl--or maybe not, if the Rose Bowl is one of the quarterfinals, the PAC champion gets to play in the Alamo or Holiday Bowl.
So no more "autobids"--but there are "contract bowls" and "contract bowl conferences." Which is totally different, except that it's exactly the same. And so I expect that in a new system with 8 teams, the P5 contracts will continue to have autobids.
Since we're talking about a NEW system, which may or may not include the historic bowls (my guess is yes they would, but it's all specuation at this point) I think it's fair to say "I think the G5 Access Bowl would convert to an autobid" without somebody being so pedantic that they start sounding foolish. Again, what does the G5 have now, if not an "autobid" to a New Years Six game.