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RE: Will Ohio State out trigger a move to 8-team playoff?
(12-04-2017 01:46 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:19 AM)AntiG Wrote:  This year is the perfect case for a 8 team playoff. UCF basically can win the NY6 bowl and claim that they should have a share of the championship since they finished as the only undefeated team in FBS this season, and the B1G has a legit beef for being left out for a team that didn't even win their own division, nevermind conference.

5 P5 champions
1 top G5 champ
2 at-large bids
Seeding order is based on their ranking

1 Clemson (ACC champ)
8 UCF (G5 champ)

4 Alabama (At-large)
5 Ohio State (B1G champ)

3 Georgia (SEC champ)
6 Wisconsin (At-large)

2 Oklahoma (B12 champ)
7 USC (P12 champ)

You basically eliminate the legit controversies with this setup since all 5 power conference champs + top G5 champ gets in. If in the future an indy like ND or Army; or any other G5 champ want in, run the table and get ranked.

How about an 8 team playoff with G5 autobids?

#1 Clemson
#2 Oklahoma
#3 Georgia
AAC Champ UCF
MAC Champ Toledo
MWC Champ Boise
SBC Champ Troy
CUSA Champ FAU

Bring some affirmative action to the sport....04-cheers

1 Clemson (AQ) vs 16 Troy (AQ)
8 USC (AQ) vs 9 Penn State
4 Alabama vs 13 Boise State (AQ)
5 Ohio State (AQ) vs 12 UCF (AQ)
2 Oklahoma (AQ) vs 15 Toledo (AQ)
7 Auburn vs 10 Miami
3 Georgia (AQ) vs 14 FAU (AQ)
6 Wisconsin vs 11 Washington
12-04-2017 05:55 AM
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RE: Will Ohio State out trigger a move to 8-team playoff?
Eventually everyone will circle back to 5+1+2
12-04-2017 06:39 AM
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RE: Will Ohio State out trigger a move to 8-team playoff?
To much money coming in from Conference Championship Games.

Best layout would to keep the CCGs.

All P5 Champs get autobids. The highest rated G5 Champ makes it in and then the two highest ranked remaining teams are added. 8 team playoffs with all conferences represented. sort of
12-04-2017 08:27 AM
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RE: Will Ohio State out trigger a move to 8-team playoff?
No and it shouldn't. All conference knew they would be left out at some point. It sucks, but it's the nature of things and it did exactly what they wanted. It created huge games all season and national attention on a major game or two (or more) most weeks. In short, they kept what they wanted in the regular season.
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RE: Will Ohio State out trigger a move to 8-team playoff?
(12-04-2017 08:45 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  No and it shouldn't. All conference knew they would be left out at some point. It sucks, but it's the nature of things and it did exactly what they wanted. It created huge games all season and national attention on a major game or two (or more) most weeks. In short, they kept what they wanted in the regular season.

Yes, but knowing it conceptually and then actually feeling it can be two different things.

I have to admit, though, that if Ohio State and Jim Delany are fuming right now, as I know I would be, they have done a remarkable job of keeping a proper poker face about it. Both issued bland statements expressing mild disappointment but also respect for the system, very classy.
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(12-04-2017 08:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 08:45 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  No and it shouldn't. All conference knew they would be left out at some point. It sucks, but it's the nature of things and it did exactly what they wanted. It created huge games all season and national attention on a major game or two (or more) most weeks. In short, they kept what they wanted in the regular season.

Yes, but knowing it conceptually and then actually feeling it can be two different things.

I have to admit, though, that if Ohio State and Jim Delany are fuming right now, as I know I would be, they have done a remarkable job of keeping a proper poker face about it. Both issued bland statements expressing mild disappointment but also respect for the system, very classy.

Jim Delaney talking to Urban Meyer.

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RE: Will Ohio State out trigger a move to 8-team playoff?
It’s been more or less quiet on the Ohio State front because the Buckeyes got in at Penn State’s expense last year, and actually lost to them, unlike Alabama (who did not play OSU, of course).

To maximize the CCGs and Cinderella stories, auto-bids should be implemented in the future. The rest of an eight team playoff should be made-up of three wildcards to reward a commendable regular season, I’m not sure a G5 “champ” rule would go over. No changes to the six major bowl games need to be made.

I was the original advocate of a twelve team playoff, but I think that would be years and years away.
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(12-04-2017 09:08 AM)esayem Wrote:  It’s been more or less quiet on the Ohio State front because the Buckeyes got in at Penn State’s expense last year, and actually lost to them, unlike Alabama (who did not play OSU, of course).

To maximize the CCGs and Cinderella stories, auto-bids should be implemented in the future. The rest of an eight team playoff should be made-up of three wildcards to reward a commendable regular season, I’m not sure a G5 “champ” rule would go over. No changes to the six major bowl games need to be made.

I was the original advocate of a twelve team playoff, but I think that would be years and years away.

To me, it doesn't make conceptual sense to have an automatic G5 entry unless we have 16 teams in the playoffs. With 8 teams, chances are, the 8th best P5 team is better than the best G5 team, and since #8 is also probably a legit title contender, that's too high a price to pay for auto-inclusion. The G5 champ could be eligible for one of the three wild-cards like everyone else.
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RE: Will Ohio State out trigger a move to 8-team playoff?
(12-04-2017 08:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I have to admit, though, that if Ohio State and Jim Delany are fuming right now, as I know I would be, they have done a remarkable job of keeping a proper poker face about it. Both issued bland statements expressing mild disappointment but also respect for the system, very classy.

Most conferences wanted a bigger playoff. B1G and PAC wanted the +1 with the bowls still heavily in play. What we have is the compromise between the two sides. They have no reason to *****.

It's not like the B1G is really missing out, though. Three teams in the access bowls, and two of them are B1G-PAC matches.
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(12-04-2017 09:36 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 08:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I have to admit, though, that if Ohio State and Jim Delany are fuming right now, as I know I would be, they have done a remarkable job of keeping a proper poker face about it. Both issued bland statements expressing mild disappointment but also respect for the system, very classy.

Most conferences wanted a bigger playoff. B1G and PAC wanted the +1 with the bowls still heavily in play. What we have is the compromise between the two sides. They have no reason to *****.

It's not like the B1G is really missing out, though. Three teams in the access bowls, and two of them are B1G-PAC matches.

The Bowls don't mean anything.
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