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RE: Alabama is IN, Ohio State is OUT !!!
I think this selection will make the Big 10 consider re-balancing their divisions and if the SEC is smart, they will consider doing the same. But since we got two in this year we'll probably drag our feet. But our imbalance could have cost us a shot this year as well. It just broke well for us in the last three weeks.

I've even wondered why the conferences don't just redivide the divisions every year where odd finishers are in one and even finishers are in the other. A predetermined rivalry game can be preserved as the 8th conference game and all other rotations could simply cease.
12-03-2017 01:57 PM
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RE: Alabama is IN, Ohio State is OUT !!!
(12-03-2017 01:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I think this selection will make the Big 10 consider re-balancing their divisions and if the SEC is smart, they will consider doing the same. But since we got two in this year we'll probably drag our feet. But our imbalance could have cost us a shot this year as well. It just broke well for us in the last three weeks.

I've even wondered why the conferences don't just redivide the divisions every year where odd finishers are in one and even finishers are in the other. A predetermined rivalry game can be preserved as the 8th conference game and all other rotations could simply cease.

Ohio State shouldn't have lost that game to the "weaker" division.
12-03-2017 02:09 PM
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RE: Alabama is IN, Ohio State is OUT !!!
Part of me believes that a conference champion (OSU) should get in before a team (Alabama) that didn't even play for a conference championship. But that Iowa shellacking says a lot. On the whole, I think they got it right.
12-03-2017 02:18 PM
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(12-03-2017 01:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I think this selection will make the Big 10 consider re-balancing their divisions and if the SEC is smart, they will consider doing the same. But since we got two in this year we'll probably drag our feet. But our imbalance could have cost us a shot this year as well. It just broke well for us in the last three weeks.

I've even wondered why the conferences don't just redivide the divisions every year where odd finishers are in one and even finishers are in the other. A predetermined rivalry game can be preserved as the 8th conference game and all other rotations could simply cease.

No, geographic divisions makes the most sense. If you try and "balance" the divisions you'll be realigning every other year.

Look at a team like Tennessee which was supposed to be good then went winless in SEC play, or Michigan who was supposed to be a playoff contender and finished below MSU who was supposed to be a basement dweller.

You have to line up divisions for the long run, not short term success.
12-03-2017 02:27 PM
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(12-03-2017 02:09 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 01:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I think this selection will make the Big 10 consider re-balancing their divisions and if the SEC is smart, they will consider doing the same. But since we got two in this year we'll probably drag our feet. But our imbalance could have cost us a shot this year as well. It just broke well for us in the last three weeks.

I've even wondered why the conferences don't just redivide the divisions every year where odd finishers are in one and even finishers are in the other. A predetermined rivalry game can be preserved as the 8th conference game and all other rotations could simply cease.

Ohio State shouldn't have lost that game to the "weaker" division.

You have to think that Clemson's 31-0 pasting of them last year had an unspoken impact as well.
12-03-2017 02:47 PM
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If I heard right on the CFP show, the B10 has not scored a point in the playoffs since the OSU win the CFP.
12-03-2017 02:53 PM
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Shut up Jesse Palmer. Move on. The committee decided.
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(12-03-2017 02:27 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 01:57 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I think this selection will make the Big 10 consider re-balancing their divisions and if the SEC is smart, they will consider doing the same. But since we got two in this year we'll probably drag our feet. But our imbalance could have cost us a shot this year as well. It just broke well for us in the last three weeks.

I've even wondered why the conferences don't just redivide the divisions every year where odd finishers are in one and even finishers are in the other. A predetermined rivalry game can be preserved as the 8th conference game and all other rotations could simply cease.

No, geographic divisions makes the most sense. If you try and "balance" the divisions you'll be realigning every other year.

Look at a team like Tennessee which was supposed to be good then went winless in SEC play, or Michigan who was supposed to be a playoff contender and finished below MSU who was supposed to be a basement dweller.

You have to line up divisions for the long run, not short term success.

There aren't any easy solutions to be sure, but we both have to admit that the SEC East and Big 10 West are problems to our respective conferences and have been for quite some time now. The resurgence of Georgia just puts the SEC East on par with Wisconsin and the Big 10 West. Meanwhile, the SEC West with a little earlier emergence of L.S.U. could have easily given every West member two losses and then we are in the same position as the Big 10 this year. Next year the Aggies will be re-energized, L.S.U. will be peaking and it will be a dogfight again. Some semblance of balance is needed whatever the means.
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I think this puts to an end the "conventional wisdom" that Notre Dame has to join a conference because of the existence of the Playoff Committee.

This makes two years in a row that a non-conference champ or conference championship game participant made the playoffs.
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(12-03-2017 03:53 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I think this puts to an end the "conventional wisdom" that Notre Dame has to join a conference because of the existence of the Playoff Committee.

This makes two years in a row that a non-conference champ or conference championship game participant made the playoffs.

Yes, if Notre Dame had beaten Miami and Stanford, they would have taken the last playoff spot from Alabama.
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