Everyone with half a brain predicted this, and it’s gonna get a lot worse.

I will say though, I think the school will take advantage of the provision in Tubbys contract where we could pay his buyout over 4 years. We won’t win 12 games this year and Tubby will be fired, even if they are strapped financially they will have no choice. Good night rednecks

Not surprised at all. There is a really strong possibility that we won't win a conference game. UAB is not good. But they are much better than the team we are putting on the floor now.

Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

In all seriousness (yes people should now know that recruiting matters and people that get paid large sums of money to follow college basketball know a bad roster when they see it) people will now figure out that ECU, USF, and Tulane could switch jerseys with us and no one would be able to tell the difference.

If no one watches did the season really happen?

(11-30-2017 11:07 PM)Dylan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

In all seriousness (yes people should now know that recruiting matters and people that get paid large sums of money to follow college basketball know a bad roster when they see it) people will now figure out that ECU, USF, and Tulane could switch jerseys with us and no one would be able to tell the difference.

Not this year. They will all smoke us.

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

And it was fair to do just that, no matter what people like you say or have said.
Having said that, most have seen enough and it's awful. Just like some have said all summer, myself included, if it's bad we'll all call for the coach's head. Well it's worse than bad, as we all have seen, and Tubby can't be out of here soon enough.
BUT, it was fair to see what kind of product he put on the floor BEFORE completely condemning him and this team. Now we know.

Is what it is,they fkn suck.

(11-30-2017 11:12 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

And it was fair to do just that, no matter what people like you say or have said.
Having said that, most have seen enough and it's awful. Just like some have said all summer, myself included, if it's bad we'll all call for the coach's head. Well it's worse than bad, as we all have seen, and Tubby can't be out of here soon enough.
BUT, it was fair to see what kind of product he put on the floor BEFORE completely condemning him and this team. Now we know.

Nope. I can enter a stock Pinto in the Indy 500 and hope against all reality I hate well but...

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

This is an example of why you got called Richard

(11-30-2017 11:51 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

This is an example of why you got called Richard

Tubby sucks.

(11-30-2017 11:47 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:12 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

And it was fair to do just that, no matter what people like you say or have said.
Having said that, most have seen enough and it's awful. Just like some have said all summer, myself included, if it's bad we'll all call for the coach's head. Well it's worse than bad, as we all have seen, and Tubby can't be out of here soon enough.
BUT, it was fair to see what kind of product he put on the floor BEFORE completely condemning him and this team. Now we know.

Nope. I can enter a stock Pinto in the Indy 500 and hope against all reality I hate well but...

And if we were talking about a piece of machinery, that'd be accurate.

(11-30-2017 11:54 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:51 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

This is an example of why you got called Richard

Tubby sucks.

Unfortunately, that pretty much sums it up.

(11-30-2017 11:57 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:54 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:51 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

This is an example of why you got called Richard

Tubby sucks.

Unfortunately, that pretty much sums it up.

I admire your patience, I really do.

I literally can’t think of anything he’s doing well right now.

Recruiting, marketing, coaching..all seem to be completely lazy and out of touch with reality.

(11-30-2017 11:54 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:51 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

This is an example of why you got called Richard

Tubby sucks.

He's bad at his occupation.

(11-30-2017 11:56 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:47 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:12 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

And it was fair to do just that, no matter what people like you say or have said.
Having said that, most have seen enough and it's awful. Just like some have said all summer, myself included, if it's bad we'll all call for the coach's head. Well it's worse than bad, as we all have seen, and Tubby can't be out of here soon enough.
BUT, it was fair to see what kind of product he put on the floor BEFORE completely condemning him and this team. Now we know.

Nope. I can enter a stock Pinto in the Indy 500 and hope against all reality I hate well but...

And if we were talking about a piece of machinery, that'd be accurate.

And humans have ceilings too. A guy who dwarfs others and can only go 9 and 4 in a lesser league can't be expected to do as well or better in a better league.

(11-30-2017 11:59 PM)Dylan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:57 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:54 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:51 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

This is an example of why you got called Richard

Tubby sucks.

Unfortunately, that pretty much sums it up.

I admire your patience, I really do.

I literally can’t think of anything he’s doing well right now.

Recruiting, marketing, coaching..all seem to be completely lazy and out of touch with reality.

You're right in every way...he's truly terrible...
Man, I just felt it was only fair to hold judgement until we saw the team play. And now, clearly, it's obvious Tubby needs to go. The sooner the better. Preserve what's left of your legacy and retire.

(11-30-2017 11:59 PM)Dylan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:57 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:54 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:51 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

This is an example of why you got called Richard

Tubby sucks.

Unfortunately, that pretty much sums it up.

I admire your patience, I really do.

I literally can’t think of anything he’s doing well right now.

Recruiting, marketing, coaching..all seem to be completely lazy and out of touch with reality.

All of that is true, but I think there’s more to it. I think he (Tubby) has a huge amount of stubbornness and or set in his way going on. The idea of a strategy that has the staff moving on from good recruits who don’t commit to Tubby right away or don’t show interest in them is absolutely pathetic. It shows no determination. And Saul was quoted saying as much in the CA.

(12-01-2017 12:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:56 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:47 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:12 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:00 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Just give them a chance and let them play.

There's no way to know how good or bad they will be.

And it was fair to do just that, no matter what people like you say or have said.
Having said that, most have seen enough and it's awful. Just like some have said all summer, myself included, if it's bad we'll all call for the coach's head. Well it's worse than bad, as we all have seen, and Tubby can't be out of here soon enough.
BUT, it was fair to see what kind of product he put on the floor BEFORE completely condemning him and this team. Now we know.

Nope. I can enter a stock Pinto in the Indy 500 and hope against all reality I hate well but...

And if we were talking about a piece of machinery, that'd be accurate.

And humans have ceilings too.

Agreed...

(12-01-2017 12:09 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:59 PM)Dylan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:57 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:54 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 11:51 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  This is an example of why you got called Richard

Tubby sucks.

Unfortunately, that pretty much sums it up.

I admire your patience, I really do.

I literally can’t think of anything he’s doing well right now.

Recruiting, marketing, coaching..all seem to be completely lazy and out of touch with reality.

All of that is true, but I think there’s more to it. I think he (Tubby) has a huge amount of stubbornness and or set in his way going on. The idea of a strategy that has the staff moving on from good recruits who don’t commit to Tubby right away or don’t show interest in them is absolutely pathetic. It shows no determination. And Saul was quoted saying as much in the CA.

He somehow recruited better at Texas Tech and Minnesota. We are traditionally stocked with top 30 classes. Those schools are not. It doesn’t make sense.

Yes, I know that little Pitino is doing well right now. That probably has something to do with his father.