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SDSU Details Plans for New $250 Million Stadium in Mission Valley
11-30-2017 08:53 PM
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RE: SDSU Details Plans for New $250 Million Stadium in Mission Valley
(11-30-2017 08:53 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  https://timesofsandiego.com/sports/2017/...on-valley/

That stadium is a month too late for the MLS expansion round. Nashville, Sacramento, Cincinnati, and Detroit are the finalists for next month.
11-30-2017 09:02 PM
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RE: SDSU Details Plans for New $250 Million Stadium in Mission Valley
This has to go to vote of citizens in November 2018. There is also competing initiative for the same property by investment group for MLS soccer. If both initiatives pass the 50% threshold the initiative with the most votes has the right the to purchase the 166 acre land that SDCCU stadium currently sites.

This being said it is a great day for the vision to grow SDSU in a campus expansion and a new stadium. It is now up to the university, alumni and supporters to get this across the finish line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYbG_LKx...e=youtu.be
11-30-2017 09:09 PM
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35,000 seats is good. If the Holiday Bowl is played there it probably becomes a G5 bowl game at that capacity.
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RE: SDSU Details Plans for New $250 Million Stadium in Mission Valley
Looks like a nice proposal, but realistically, if there wasn’t public support for taxpayer dollars for a stadium to save an NFL franchise, why will this be different for a team that has a lot less interest by comparison? People in California seem to be the only ones that actually stick to proclamations of not using public money for stadiums (whereas stadium proposals elsewhere generally get rammed through despite loud objectors).
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RE: SDSU Details Plans for New $250 Million Stadium in Mission Valley
Yeah...I don't think voters are going to approve the revenue bonds. Also, when it was first mentioned the stadium was going to be $150 million and now it is $100 million more.
11-30-2017 10:20 PM
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RE: SDSU Details Plans for New $250 Million Stadium in Mission Valley
(11-30-2017 10:05 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Looks like a nice proposal, but realistically, if there wasn’t public support for taxpayer dollars for a stadium to save an NFL franchise, why will this be different for a team that has a lot less interest by comparison? People in California seem to be the only ones that actually stick to proclamations of not using public money for stadiums (whereas stadium proposals elsewhere generally get rammed through despite loud objectors).

But that's ok for SDSU football. If both their proposal and the MLS proposal lose at the ballot box, SDSU football wins because the existing stadium isn't torn down and all they have to do is use a little pressure to keep the city from tearing it down. With both proposals on the same ballot, the possible outcomes are:

MLS ballot measure wins, SDSU ballot measure loses -- MLS wins but you'd think this is the least likely outcome.
MLS and SDSU measures both win, MLS gets more votes -- MLS wins, but second least likely outcome.
Both measures win, SDSU measure gets more votes -- SDSU wins.
Both measures lose (maybe the most likely outcome) -- SDSU wins. To me, this looks like the best outcome for SDSU, because the old stadium stays and they won't have to find $250 million to build a football stadium.

They're playing the game correctly, I think. Even if they lose, they're probably still going to win.
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RE: SDSU Details Plans for New $250 Million Stadium in Mission Valley
(11-30-2017 10:23 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(11-30-2017 10:05 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Looks like a nice proposal, but realistically, if there wasn’t public support for taxpayer dollars for a stadium to save an NFL franchise, why will this be different for a team that has a lot less interest by comparison? People in California seem to be the only ones that actually stick to proclamations of not using public money for stadiums (whereas stadium proposals elsewhere generally get rammed through despite loud objectors).

But that's ok for SDSU football. If both their proposal and the MLS proposal lose at the ballot box, SDSU football wins because the existing stadium isn't torn down and all they have to do is use a little pressure to keep the city from tearing it down. With both proposals on the same ballot, the possible outcomes are:

MLS ballot measure wins, SDSU ballot measure loses -- MLS wins but you'd think this is the least likely outcome.
MLS and SDSU measures both win, MLS gets more votes -- MLS wins, but second least likely outcome.
Both measures win, SDSU measure gets more votes -- SDSU wins.
Both measures lose (maybe the most likely outcome) -- SDSU wins. To me, this looks like the best outcome for SDSU, because the old stadium stays and they won't have to find $250 million to build a football stadium.

They're playing the game correctly, I think. Even if they lose, they're probably still going to win.

I actually think think first scenario is the most likely.
The MLS proposal only needs a simple majority to win since there is no taxpayer money involved. SDSU needing revenue bonds will need 2/3rds majority.
11-30-2017 10:32 PM
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RE: SDSU Details Plans for New $250 Million Stadium in Mission Valley
(11-30-2017 09:02 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(11-30-2017 08:53 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  https://timesofsandiego.com/sports/2017/...on-valley/

That stadium is a month too late for the MLS expansion round. Nashville, Sacramento, Cincinnati, and Detroit are the finalists for next month.

You realize that MLS is going to 28 teams, right?
https://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2017/06...s-timeline

LAFC start platbnext year to make 23.
Miami is still set for a team to make 24, but no stadium is built.
Those four cities are fighting for two slots which will start play in 2020 to make 26.

There's still two more to be named this time next year if MLS stays on plan.

This and Soccer City seem to be on a collision course to be competing balloon measures next November.
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RE: SDSU Details Plans for New $250 Million Stadium in Mission Valley
(11-30-2017 10:05 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Looks like a nice proposal, but realistically, if there wasn’t public support for taxpayer dollars for a stadium to save an NFL franchise, why will this be different for a team that has a lot less interest by comparison? People in California seem to be the only ones that actually stick to proclamations of not using public money for stadiums (whereas stadium proposals elsewhere generally get rammed through despite loud objectors).

This proposal isn't using taxpayer dollars directly and it's not just about a stadium. It's about university expansion that happens to include a stadium. Much easier to sell that to the tax paying public.
11-30-2017 10:59 PM
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