If UCF loses Saturday, they won't repeat that last performance at the Liberty Bowl. Losing an undefeated season, a shot at the Peach Bowl and their coaching staff, all in one game. Won't be happy.

Has Frost officially taken a offer?

(11-30-2017 09:20 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Has Frost officially taken a offer?

Nah, he turned down his alma mater in his hometown where he won a national championship under a hall of fame coach.

Come on man. This ain't on UCF, no school could keep Frost from this job.

He gone.

(11-30-2017 09:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:20 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Has Frost officially taken a offer?

Nah, he turned down his alma mater in his hometown where he won a national championship under a hall of fame coach.

Come on man. This ain't on UCF, no school could keep Frost from this job.

He gone.

Yep. And if UCF loses Saturday, the Liberty Bowl won’t get a crowd from UCF. It’ll be for the good of the conference if Memphis loses. Like USM losing to Houston in the CUSA CCG for the good of the conference a few years back. Oh....bad example. USM accidentally won that one.

(11-30-2017 09:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:20 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Has Frost officially taken a offer?

Nah, he turned down his alma mater in his hometown where he won a national championship under a hall of fame coach.

Come on man. This ain't on UCF, no school could keep Frost from this job.

He gone.

I just did a google earth on Lincoln. Quite amazed how small of a place it it. 5 miles in any direction and its pure farmland for miles upon miles. Tiny airport, literally four gates with service to 4 cities. Unless Nebraska supplies him with a private plane, those recruiting trips are not simply plane rides, they are journeys through connection hell. Although, I guess for him growing up there, he sees it from a completely different angle. I would go out of my mind, good think I'm no coach.

I get that most college towns are simply small towns. However, very few are that isolated.......... and that one city 50 miles away, Omaha, it is not that big of city in itself. The closest real city with real attractions is over 200 miles away in Kansas City.

(11-30-2017 09:56 PM)otown Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:20 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Has Frost officially taken a offer?

Nah, he turned down his alma mater in his hometown where he won a national championship under a hall of fame coach.

Come on man. This ain't on UCF, no school could keep Frost from this job.

He gone.

I just did a google earth on Lincoln. Quite amazed how small of a place it it. 5 miles in any direction and its pure farmland for miles upon miles. Tiny airport, literally four gates with service to 4 cities. Unless Nebraska supplies him with a private plane, those recruiting trips are not simply plane rides, they are journeys through connection hell. Although, I guess for him growing up there, he sees it from a completely different angle. I would go out of my mind, good think I'm no coach.

I get that most college towns are simply small towns. However, very few are that isolated.......... and that one city 50 miles away, Omaha, it is not that big of city in itself. The closest real city with real attractions is over 200 miles away in Kansas City.

You do realize that can be quite an attractive feature to some people.

(11-30-2017 09:56 PM)otown Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:20 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Has Frost officially taken a offer?

Nah, he turned down his alma mater in his hometown where he won a national championship under a hall of fame coach.

Come on man. This ain't on UCF, no school could keep Frost from this job.

He gone.

I just did a google earth on Lincoln. Quite amazed how small of a place it it. 5 miles in any direction and its pure farmland for miles upon miles. Tiny airport, literally four gates with service to 4 cities. Unless Nebraska supplies him with a private plane, those recruiting trips are not simply plane rides, they are journeys through connection hell. Although, I guess for him growing up there, he sees it from a completely different angle. I would go out of my mind, good think I'm no coach.

I get that most college towns are simply small towns. However, very few are that isolated.......... and that one city 50 miles away, Omaha, it is not that big of city in itself. The closest real city with real attractions is over 200 miles away in Kansas City.

My brother lives in Lincoln. I would take that over Orlando easily. Not as a coach, just as a regular guy. Not a huge fan of Lincoln, just don’t care for Orlando. Humid, gimmicky Vegas without the Vegas flare. To each their own.

(11-30-2017 07:48 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The Memphis deal has been in the works for several weeks. I didn't realize that UCF would get it if they lost, though. Good for UCF if they lose, but, as someone said above, they won't travel to that bowl.

Hell to the naw.

(11-30-2017 10:21 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:56 PM)otown Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:20 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Has Frost officially taken a offer?

Nah, he turned down his alma mater in his hometown where he won a national championship under a hall of fame coach.

Come on man. This ain't on UCF, no school could keep Frost from this job.

He gone.

I just did a google earth on Lincoln. Quite amazed how small of a place it it. 5 miles in any direction and its pure farmland for miles upon miles. Tiny airport, literally four gates with service to 4 cities. Unless Nebraska supplies him with a private plane, those recruiting trips are not simply plane rides, they are journeys through connection hell. Although, I guess for him growing up there, he sees it from a completely different angle. I would go out of my mind, good think I'm no coach.

I get that most college towns are simply small towns. However, very few are that isolated.......... and that one city 50 miles away, Omaha, it is not that big of city in itself. The closest real city with real attractions is over 200 miles away in Kansas City.

My brother lives in Lincoln. I would take that over Orlando easily. Not as a coach, just as a regular guy. Not a huge fan of Lincoln, just don’t care for Orlando. Humid, gimmicky Vegas without the Vegas flare. To each their own.

Hence the entire post was based on my perspective. I can handle a small city, but I prefer a big city nearby.

(11-30-2017 08:27 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 08:21 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  So the Longhorns?

Unless TCU doesnt make the NY6, in which the Liberty may be able to pull TCU or Ok St.

Either way its quite a consolation prize. Interesting game against a name P5 and as I recall, the Liberty Bowl payout ain't bad.

(11-30-2017 09:56 PM)otown Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:20 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Has Frost officially taken a offer?

Nah, he turned down his alma mater in his hometown where he won a national championship under a hall of fame coach.

Come on man. This ain't on UCF, no school could keep Frost from this job.

He gone.

I just did a google earth on Lincoln. Quite amazed how small of a place it it. 5 miles in any direction and its pure farmland for miles upon miles. Tiny airport, literally four gates with service to 4 cities. Unless Nebraska supplies him with a private plane, those recruiting trips are not simply plane rides, they are journeys through connection hell. Although, I guess for him growing up there, he sees it from a completely different angle. I would go out of my mind, good think I'm no coach.

I get that most college towns are simply small towns. However, very few are that isolated.......... and that one city 50 miles away, Omaha, it is not that big of city in itself. The closest real city with real attractions is over 200 miles away in Kansas City.

Uh... OMAHA is about an hour down I-80 and is a major metropolitan area. Seriously.

Though it is ironic that the stadium, on game days, still becomes the third largest city in the State.

(12-01-2017 08:10 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:56 PM)otown Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:20 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Has Frost officially taken a offer?

Nah, he turned down his alma mater in his hometown where he won a national championship under a hall of fame coach.

Come on man. This ain't on UCF, no school could keep Frost from this job.

He gone.

I just did a google earth on Lincoln. Quite amazed how small of a place it it. 5 miles in any direction and its pure farmland for miles upon miles. Tiny airport, literally four gates with service to 4 cities. Unless Nebraska supplies him with a private plane, those recruiting trips are not simply plane rides, they are journeys through connection hell. Although, I guess for him growing up there, he sees it from a completely different angle. I would go out of my mind, good think I'm no coach.

I get that most college towns are simply small towns. However, very few are that isolated.......... and that one city 50 miles away, Omaha, it is not that big of city in itself. The closest real city with real attractions is over 200 miles away in Kansas City.

Uh... OMAHA is about an hour down I-80.

Omaha is in Colorado.

(11-30-2017 07:31 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 07:17 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Will play the #4 pick from the B12. So its either the Peach or Liberty for Memphis and UCF.

Did they pay up to land the American? How did the sec get bumped?

The SEC "didn't get bumped". If the loser of the AAC title game is going to the Liberty Bowl, it is because (a) the SEC has only 5 teams to fill the 6 bowls in the SEC pool the LB is a part of, and (b) the SEC agreed to let the Liberty Bowl take Memphis or UCF if they lose the AAC title game.

And the reason the SEC would agree is that the Liberty Bowl is, the lowest-paying, bottom of the pecking order bowl in that pool, so they would want their five teams to go to the better bowls.

The Liberty Bowl has and had zero power to unilaterally 'bump' the SEC or anything of the sort.

(12-01-2017 08:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 07:31 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 07:17 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Will play the #4 pick from the B12. So its either the Peach or Liberty for Memphis and UCF.

Did they pay up to land the American? How did the sec get bumped?

The SEC "didn't get bumped". If the loser of the AAC title game is going to the Liberty Bowl, it is because (a) the SEC has only 5 teams to fill the 6 bowls in the SEC pool the LB is a part of, and (b) the SEC agreed to let the Liberty Bowl take Memphis or UCF if they lose the AAC title game.

And the reason the SEC would agree is that the Liberty Bowl is, the lowest-paying, bottom of the pecking order bowl in that pool, so they would want their five teams to go to the better bowls.

The Liberty Bowl has and had zero power to unilaterally 'bump' the SEC or anything of the sort.

And maybe now the Liberty Bowl realizes that they may be better off with a #1/#2 American tie-in going forward. Everybody wins.

I think the Liberty Bowl payout is 1.7 million per team this year. While that might be chump change in the SEC its probably one of the best payouts in the AAC. Which AAC bowls have higher payouts? Plus its a game against the #4 team from the Big 12 so the Peach and Liberty for the AAC division champions ain't bad IMO.

(12-01-2017 08:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  And maybe now the Liberty Bowl realizes that they may be better off with a #1/#2 American tie-in going forward. Everybody wins.

Why? They're getting the AAC #1 pick without a tie-in. Why commit?

(You don't need to commit to a 4 when you're regularly banging 6-8s. You can booty call the 4 when ever you need to and she'll come a-runnin')

EDIT: Remember, Liberty Bowl level bowls care more about attendance and hotel rooms than about how many games you won that year.)

(12-01-2017 08:33 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(12-01-2017 08:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  And maybe now the Liberty Bowl realizes that they may be better off with a #1/#2 American tie-in going forward. Everybody wins.

Why? They're getting the AAC #1 pick without a tie-in. Why commit?

(You don't need to commit to a 4 when you're regularly banging 6-8s. You can booty call the 4 when ever you need to and she'll come a-runnin')

EDIT: Remember, Liberty Bowl level bowls care more about attendance and hotel rooms than about how many games you won that year.)

As someone who owns hotels in Memphis, the Liberty Bowl doesnt give 2 flips about hotel rooms sold.

(12-01-2017 08:10 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:56 PM)otown Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:20 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Has Frost officially taken a offer?

Nah, he turned down his alma mater in his hometown where he won a national championship under a hall of fame coach.

Come on man. This ain't on UCF, no school could keep Frost from this job.

He gone.

I just did a google earth on Lincoln. Quite amazed how small of a place it it. 5 miles in any direction and its pure farmland for miles upon miles. Tiny airport, literally four gates with service to 4 cities. Unless Nebraska supplies him with a private plane, those recruiting trips are not simply plane rides, they are journeys through connection hell. Although, I guess for him growing up there, he sees it from a completely different angle. I would go out of my mind, good think I'm no coach.

I get that most college towns are simply small towns. However, very few are that isolated.......... and that one city 50 miles away, Omaha, it is not that big of city in itself. The closest real city with real attractions is over 200 miles away in Kansas City.

Uh... OMAHA is about an hour down I-80 and is a major metropolitan area. Seriously.

Though it is ironic that the stadium, on game days, still becomes the third largest city in the State.

Omaha is not a major city in my book. If I want steaks, I can order them from a spam catalogue. Doesn't even have pro sports. Essentially a little bigger city than Lincoln......and that's 50 miles away. Anything else is 200 plus miles. Maybe others would be fine there, I wouldn't. Just my opinion. Their airport is a little bigger, but still will probably need to go the connection route for many places.

(11-30-2017 09:56 PM)otown Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:37 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-30-2017 09:20 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Has Frost officially taken a offer?

Nah, he turned down his alma mater in his hometown where he won a national championship under a hall of fame coach.

Come on man. This ain't on UCF, no school could keep Frost from this job.

He gone.

I just did a google earth on Lincoln. Quite amazed how small of a place it it. 5 miles in any direction and its pure farmland for miles upon miles. Tiny airport, literally four gates with service to 4 cities. Unless Nebraska supplies him with a private plane, those recruiting trips are not simply plane rides, they are journeys through connection hell. Although, I guess for him growing up there, he sees it from a completely different angle. I would go out of my mind, good think I'm no coach.

I get that most college towns are simply small towns. However, very few are that isolated.......... and that one city 50 miles away, Omaha, it is not that big of city in itself. The closest real city with real attractions is over 200 miles away in Kansas City.

but they have corn hole tournies, classes on making corn cob pipes, Shucking lessons, and a corn cob in every out house. It is paradise.

(12-01-2017 09:07 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  As someone who owns hotels in Memphis, the Liberty Bowl doesnt give 2 flips about hotel rooms sold.

OK. What actually does move the needle? Ticket sales? TV ratings? Pure good-old-boy networking--i.e. the committee members are SEC/"Memphis STate"* alums?

*Not being disrespectful, just being old school. If the committee guy is a 50 year old car dealer with a Memphis Tigers tattoo, his degree probably says "Memphis State University" on it. I've never understood why that's supposed to be such a sick burn, so sorry if it makes you mad.