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RE: Quarterback Development at ODU
Looking at 247 list of commits, I don't see a QB for next year
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We just landed the Peninsula District POY who plays QB. He's a 6'5" dual threat QB.

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Ya, he's listed as "Athlete".
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RE: Quarterback Development at ODU
(11-30-2017 04:04 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  It's all Deja Vu again!!!
(09-14-2016 10:57 AM)Somebodys Wrote:  I also want to add Whitcomb (1 of 4 coaches from Maine) in 8 season hasn't developed 1 QB yet. When I state developed I mean someone ODU recruited to ride the pine for a few seasons and play the position at QB when we graduate a QB. DeMarco fail in to his arms at the start of 2009 fall practice and TH started half way in his freshman season. Whitcomb has had 8 season to try to develop QBs but hasn't. Whitcombs over used quote with TH "we didnt want to fix anything that wasnt broke but there could be improvements" come on coach develop a backup in the meantime. I just dont understand how he profits off these QB camps but hasnt developed a QB for our program. He is just riding the success of TD and TH who he didnt have to develop.

(09-14-2016 12:02 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  
(09-14-2016 11:42 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(09-14-2016 10:57 AM)AimHigh Wrote:  I also want to add Whitcomb (1 of 4 coaches from Maine) in 8 season hasn't developed 1 QB yet. When I state developed I mean someone ODU recruited to ride the pine for a few seasons and play the position at QB when we graduate a QB. DeMarco fail in to his arms at the start of 2009 fall practice and TH started half way in his freshman season. Whitcomb has had 8 season to try to develop QBs but hasn't. Whitcombs over used quote with TH "we didnt want to fix anything that wasnt broke but there could be improvements" come on coach develop a backup in the meantime. I just dont understand how he profits off these QB camps but hasnt developed a QB for our program. He is just riding the success of TD and TH who he didnt have to develop.


This is absurd. I tried to put it mildly, but cannot come up with anything else.

Thomas DeMarco was a punter that schools had zero interest in playing him at QB except for Div 3 schools. The staff saw him play at College of the Desert and recruited him.

Taylor Heincke came in as a freshman midget weighing 150 pounds that hardly anyone wanted. How did he not develop under our staff? Do you think he was just as good as a freshman (when no one wanted him) as he was when he left (when the NFL wanted him)?

David Washington was a backup FCS QB (behind a star) that moved to WR and is now playing FBS football as a starting QB. How did he not develop? Could he have played as a freshman at the FBS level?

The book has not been written on the other possible QBs on our roster that are either Freshman or Sophomores.

Thomas DeMarco was a QB recruited to ODU. TD was at the College of the Desert passed for 1,792 yards with 14 passing touchdowns also rushed for eight touchdowns. DeMarco was recruited out of high school as a punter but left his D1 school in CA (SDSU) to go the junior college rout to be a QB.

Thomas DeMarco showed up on ODU campus in the summer of 2009 and beat out Cooper, Reamon and one other to be the QB. You call 4 weeks fall practice development?

Whitcomb put stock in to Blackman before he walked out a month before signing TH and Ong

TH was unknown and not expected to play as a freshman. How much time did Whitcomb put in to TH before UMass 2011? They had DeMarco and Ong. Whitcomb has stated he didnt want to change any of TH flaws in fear it would affect his play.

DW has moved positions around so much he hasn't had time to develop as a true QB.

Name a QB who has been developed and seceded at ODU? Most have walked

Development is bring in a guy and learning the system and waiting his turn. Not a player who shows up in fall practice weeks before the start of the season and is already a starter

(09-14-2016 12:58 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  
(09-14-2016 12:32 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(09-14-2016 12:02 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  
(09-14-2016 11:42 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  This is absurd. I tried to put it mildly, but cannot come up with anything else.

Thomas DeMarco was a punter that schools had zero interest in playing him at QB except for Div 3 schools. The staff saw him play at College of the Desert and recruited him.

Taylor Heincke came in as a freshman midget weighing 150 pounds that hardly anyone wanted. How did he not develop under our staff? Do you think he was just as good as a freshman (when no one wanted him) as he was when he left (when the NFL wanted him)?

David Washington was a backup FCS QB (behind a star) that moved to WR and is now playing FBS football as a starting QB. How did he not develop? Could he have played as a freshman at the FBS level?

The book has not been written on the other possible QBs on our roster that are either Freshman or Sophomores.

Thomas DeMarco was a QB recruited to ODU. TD was at the College of the Desert passed for 1,792 yards with 14 passing touchdowns also rushed for eight touchdowns. DeMarco was recruited out of high school as a punter but left his D1 school in CA (SDSU) to go the junior college rout to be a QB.

Thomas DeMarco showed up on ODU campus in the summer of 2009 and beat out Cooper, Reamon and one other to be the QB. You call 4 weeks fall practice development?

Whitcomb put stock in to Blackman before he walked out a month before signing TH and Ong

TH was unknown and not expected to play as a freshman. How much time did Whitcomb put in to TH before UMass 2011? They had DeMarco and Ong. Whitcomb has stated he didnt want to change any of TH flaws in fear it would affect his play.

DW has moved positions around so much he hasn't had time to develop as a true QB.

Name a QB who has been developed and seceded at ODU? Most have walked

Development is bring in a guy and learning the system and waiting his turn. Not a player who shows up in fall practice weeks before the start of the season and is already a starter


Your premise that DeMarco, Washington, and Heinicke didn't develop at ODU is absurd. YOu think those guys were as good when they came in as when they left?

College of the Desert. A 2-year community college. Why are you posting stats from a community college?

Reading some more and trying to make some sense of what you are saying....are you saying QBs don't develop while they are playing games?

Whitcomb has had 8 years to develop a backup to take over once we graduate a starting QBs. He has had upward of 16 or more QBs to mold in 8 seasons. He has done well with two talented QBs to pass through our program but hasn't developed a player to be a future starter. 2008 He had 4 QBs to develop before we started playing. Reamon was a two star recruit (was over hyped maybe) but some FBS schools wanted him. DeMarco shows up on campus 2009 and becomes the starting QBs ahead of the other 4 QBs that Whitcomb had under his development for a year.

Its easy to coach a kid who as talent (TD and TH) but it takes a good coach to develop a player.

Whitcomb, Quarterback Coach 2008 to Present

2008
1.Tommy Reamon
2. Bobby Cooper
3. Dan Pitts
4. Fred Credle

2009
1.Thomas DeMarco
2. Bobby Cooper
3. Dan Pitts
4. Tommy Reamon

2010
1. Thomas DeMarco
2. Dominique Blackman
3. Rashard Manley
4. Tommy Reamon moved to TE

2011
1. Thomas DeMarco
2. Nate Ong
3. Tyler Clark
4. Taylor Heinicke

2012
1. Taylor Heinicke
2. David Washington
3. Colin McElroy

2013
1. Taylor Heinicke
2. Shane McCarley
3. Colin McElroy
5. David Washington

2014
1. Taylor Heinicke
2. Colin McElroy
3. *David Washington QB/WR
4. Shuler Bentley

2015
1. Shuler Bentley
2. Joey Verhaegh
3. Blake LaRussa
4. David Washington * Moved back to QB mid season.

(09-14-2016 02:15 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  
(09-14-2016 01:52 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Again, we don't know if we've ever developed a backup because we haven't needed one. Except Washington, who was developed as a backup and is now a starter.

Rotation of QBs is needed to succeed as a program. Next man up mentality. A suitable replacement every 2 years and sometimes 3 years at the QB position.

My point was from the start. Whitcomb has not developed a player for the future. I agree with everyone he has improved TH and TD but he has not developed backup players and future starters for our program.

If Whitcomb was fired/ quit tomorrow most would agree that he left the cupboards bare for the future.

I think the current players redshirting this season stick we will start the rotation cycle of QBs but by the time we see them take the field it could be to late for this coaching staff.

Oops. I missed this, or forgot about it.
Deja Vu indeed.
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If we do not have a decent QB development next season Whitcomb should go period. He is more interested in propping up his ******* QB camp than developing QB's we have. Other than Heinicke who is a natural and DW a pure athlete our QB situation was nothing short of disaster under him.
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(12-01-2017 12:16 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  If we do not have a decent QB development next season Whitcomb should go period. He is more interested in propping up his ******* QB camp than developing QB's we have. Other than Heinicke who is a natural and DW a pure athlete our QB situation was nothing short of disaster under him.

Out of 9 seasons, we’ve had bad QB play in one season ( with freshman starter) and averageish (with freshman starter then DW)in another. The other 7 have been really good.
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(11-30-2017 09:09 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  Ya, he's listed as "Athlete".

Since he chose us over UVA I have to think it has something to do with what position he was being recruited to play. Does anyone know if BW likes him at QB or possibly wide receiver?
Have to say a rangy, 6' 5" WR sounds nice!
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(12-01-2017 08:17 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  
(11-30-2017 09:09 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  Ya, he's listed as "Athlete".

Since he chose us over UVA I have to think it has something to do with what position he was being recruited to play. Does anyone know if BW likes him at QB or possibly wide receiver?
Have to say a rangy, 6' 5" WR sounds nice!

He's coming here to play QB. Think I saw UVA wanted him on defense.
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I went to high school with his dad. He's here to play QB. Check out his highlight tape. Here's pretty damn impressive. Gloucester has NO talent outside of him, so his record sucks.

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