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RE: Quarterback Development at ODU
I'm not sure that I would classify TD as a JUCO Star. We were lucky to find, recruit, and convince him that ODU was the place for him, but I think calling him a JUCO star is a bit too much. Heck, he didn't win the job until after going back and forth drives for a little while and proving himself the man.

I think we make a little more drama when it helps our argument - labeling someone a star, labeling us completely lucky to find a recruit . . . etc. And then on the other end it's all doom and gloom. Someone found a JUCO punter who wanted to play QB again and it worked out great for both of us. That was good recruiting. When Taylor chose to come to ODU, he most certainly had untapped talent, and the coaches helped mature that talent. David was a HS quarterback that moved to WR (he was developed there by the way) and then back to QB and played well (and developed in the limited amount of time he had).

It sucks to have a not exciting season, but things are pretty good here and I have faith that we will continue to get better over time. Am I satisfied with this year and not disappointed? Heck no! I'm bummed. I also feel strongly that there is a process and things don't necessarily happen linearly. We're on our way up. That's not necessarily a straight line up.

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DOMINIQUE BLACKMAN was the best..... just ask him.
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I agree. We have not really capitalized on TH or DW's accomplishments. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they come in at the same time? Since they were recruited we don't seem to have signed anyone anywhere near their caliber. Obviously " Wonder" Williams could eventually prove to be comparable, we just don't know yet.
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(11-30-2017 01:45 PM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  I'm not sure that I would classify TD as a JUCO Star. We were lucky to find, recruit, and convince him that ODU was the place for him, but I think calling him a JUCO star is a bit too much. Heck, he didn't win the job until after going back and forth drives for a little while and proving himself the man.

I think we make a little more drama when it helps our argument - labeling someone a star, labeling us completely lucky to find a recruit . . . etc. And then on the other end it's all doom and gloom. Someone found a JUCO punter who wanted to play QB again and it worked out great for both of us. That was good recruiting. When Taylor chose to come to ODU, he most certainly had untapped talent, and the coaches helped mature that talent. David was a HS quarterback that moved to WR (he was developed there by the way) and then back to QB and played well (and developed in the limited amount of time he had).

It sucks to have a not exciting season, but things are pretty good here and I have faith that we will continue to get better over time. Am I satisfied with this year and not disappointed? Heck no! I'm bummed. I also feel strongly that there is a process and things don't necessarily happen linearly. We're on our way up. That's not necessarily a straight line up.

Go Monarchs!

My premise is that we have had three bona fide QBs of 19 prospects in our 8 years.

Let's at least use facts.

1. DeMarco went to College of the Desert initially to punt but instead became the QB. He was NOT as JUCO punter but indeed the QB.
As for being a star, I will admit to that being an opinion, However, 1,792 yards passing and 22 total touchdowns in one season makes him a star in my book.

2. David Washington was a high school QB, He was recruited to ODU as a QB He redshirted in 2012 as a QB.
In 2013 he became the backup QB (to Taylor Heinicke) and appeared in 6 games.
In 2014 he was moved to WR
In 2015 he was moved back to QB after the lackluster performance of Shuler Bentley in the Charlotte game.
In 2016 he was the starter at QB

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(11-30-2017 02:29 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  I agree. We have not really capitalized on TH or DW's accomplishments. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they come in at the same time? Since they were recruited we don't seem to have signed anyone anywhere near their caliber. Obviously " Wonder" Williams could eventually prove to be comparable, we just don't know yet.

Yes, both were FCS recruits, and yes we have not, for whatever reason, approached that caliber since.

SW may or may prove comparable, but right now I am concerned that he doesn't show the instincts, and despite exceptional overall athleticism, he seems awkward in his movement. Of course he was only 17 so it is really too soon to make that kind of assessment.
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He was a JUCO punter in the sense that we were the only team interested in him as a QB. He would have punted elsewhere.
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An NFL comparison is the Green Bay Packers who got "lucky" with Favre to Rodgers. One would think the organization is good at developing quarterbacks, until you see this guy Hundley playing who has been in the organization for 3 years and he's kind of terrible, so the idea that the Packers have been good at developing QBs goes out the window. Just a random thought.
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(11-30-2017 03:00 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  He was a JUCO punter in the sense that we were the only team interested in him as a QB. He would have punted elsewhere.

You're kidding.
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Do you not know the story?

ODU went to recruit DeMarco because they were scouting the JUCO ranks to find a punter. Demarco said he also played QB but had no offers and wasn't getting any interest from the California FCS schools. Bobby agreed to take him on.
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First off yes TH did develop and improve while here. BFD that he fell into our lap. What difference does that make when you are talking about DEVELOPMENT while here? Same with Demarco. He was recruited to come here, he came here and he Developed while here. You cannot exclude them because of the circumstances of their arrival. That does not matter. What matters is their development while here.

Like CMETT said, had we not had WR issues DW is our 2015 & 2016 QB. He did develop. So we have had very good development for our Starters. The problem was we put all our future eggs in a basket called Bentley. That went astray leaving us with nothing in the hopper and had to go to a 17 yr old freshman. Even in that rushed environment you could see SW's improvement by the end of the season.

SW will develop more this winter and spring. Barring injuries to SW we should be fine at QB.

But we'll be just one injury away from using Blake or even again, needing a freshman to lead us. I don't perceive it as a development issue but more as a recruiting/depth issue. We miss fired on Bentley. I am certain subsequent recruiting classes lost out on potential QBs because of our "commitment" to Bentley. You know other schools used that against us. We need to sign at least 1 QB per year, if not 2, knowing full well we might lose some to transfers.
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